Why Are Americans not Revolting?

[Wyrt]

Because real life differs from the narrative the mass media plays. The economy is doing great, I mean it's Obama's economy right? that means it should be all good now, right?

The economy doing well and wage stagnation aren't really related. Just because the economy is doing well doesn't mean people are doing well. Underemployment is a more serious issue at the moment than unemployment.

[alturic]

For people who are supposed to believe in capitalism you have a remarkably poor understanding of it.

Here is how you get rich under capitalism: you pay less than the value of their labour for offering a service or producing a good. Then you sell it on to the public for a profit. Your profit as a capitalist is defined as the difference between the labour of your workers and the profit of selling the good. This is compensation for the owner's risk-capital-it is speculation that brings the capitalist his profit.

There's "no work hard and you succeed". That's a fairy tale for the stupid. It has never worked that way. There is no economist, from the extreme left to the extreme right, who disagrees with what I wrote above, you'll find it in Adam Smith's writings and those of Karl Marx. You might at least learn the basics of how business actually works before you lecture people about it.

And you can dress it up how you like but most people aren't prepared to risk putting their wife and kids out on the street on a pipe dream.

Just had time to come back, but if I don't know the basics of business, I sure as shit have done very well with my business. Granted it's a service, with minimal overhead outside of infrastructure, but I guess it must be a low-risk industry and I'm just extremely lucky.

[Deleted]

Whats your home country?

Living in the Netherlands myself, I know I would never ever want to live in the US, and all my family and friends agree that we're so much better off in here.

I'm dutch as well, moved out of the Netherlands to Ireland and I'd love to move to the US one day like quite a few of my friends and family.
2 of my cousins already moved. 1 of them is a chef in Chicago and one of them lives in Seattle (house mom at moment).

Anecdotal evidence etc.

And you're only better off if you are on a low income job in the Netherlands. Taxes are absolutely crazy high and the amount the government fucks you over is also fucking crazy. Got out of there as soon as I had a good job lined up.

[Jeezy911]

Yeah we're quaking in our booties.

Nice race baiting though, really letting our true colours fly these days huh?

Can a factual statement be racist? Sorry they never taught PC culture at my college.

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Nah, the Islamic refuges will assimilate into the culture over time and become regular swedes. What is happening for them right now is culture shock.

By demanding sharia law? Islamic cultures do not assimilate, the goal will always be to create an Islamic state if you are true to teachings.

[Felya]

Can a factual statement be racist? Sorry they never taught PC culture at my college.

The statement you made was not factual.

By demanding sharia law? Islamic cultures do not assimilate, the goal will always be to create an Islamic state if you are true to teachings.

This is countered by America every single day. You are just too scared to see it...

[Oneirophobia]

And this is how the neo-con ignoramus moves ahead - making the issue a one-liner laugh-off instead of addressing the real issues. Thanks for making the world worse.

I expect you to double your efforts on making the world better, then!

..On MMOC's general off topic forum.

[cubby]

I expect you to double your efforts on making the world better, then!

..On MMOC's general off topic forum.

Deflect and obfuscate. Don't worry that Cheeto is a traitor and is selling out the future of america for personal tax breaks. Nothing to see here.

[Oneirophobia]

Deflect and obfuscate. Don't worry that Cheeto is a traitor and is selling out the future of america for personal tax breaks. Nothing to see here.

That's two things you've pulled out of thin air to attack me on, you're really good at that.

[cubby]

That's two things you've pulled out of thin air to attack me on, you're really good at that.

If I'm wrong, address them. No one is stopping you from answering except yourself.

And thank you, I am really good at attacks. Also, opposition prep - in case you were wondering. But thin air, no. Also, and finally, if I happen to be wrong, I have a history of admitting it.

Kings to you.

[Jeezy911]

The statement you made was not factual.

It was quoted that the most socialist counties are also the most happy, which I pointed out are also the whitest.

Ranking of Happiness 2014-2016 (top 20)

1. Norway
2. Denmark
3. Iceland
4. Switzerland
5. Finland
6. Netherlands
7. Canada
8. New Zealand
9. Australia
10. Sweden
11. Israel
12. Costa Rica
13. Austria
14. United States
15. Ireland
16. Germany
17. Belgium
18. Luxembourg
19. United Kingdom
20. Chile

and of course:

Percent of Caucasians per country




What is not factual again?

[Oneirophobia]

If I'm wrong, address them. No one is stopping you from answering except yourself.

And thank you, I am really good at attacks. Also, opposition prep - in case you were wondering. But thin air, no. Also, and finally, if I happen to be wrong, I have a history of admitting it.

Kings to you.

Making a comparison between the South Park parents and blaming Canada and their inability to accept responsibility for their kids and America blaming Russia for their orange problem makes me a neo-con, apparently.

Rolling my eyes at your suggestion that doing so on MMOC off topic somehow makes the world a worse place apparently makes me a Trump supporter.

The air couldn't get any thinner.

I get it, you didn't understand the comparison, but you're making yourself look really silly with the invented addons. You should browse, reddit/r/iamverysmart I think you'd fit right in with the content posted there. (:

[cubby]

Making a comparison between the South Park parents and blaming Canada and their inability to accept responsibility for their kids and America blaming Russia for their orange problem makes me a neo-con ignoramus, apparently.

Rolling my eyes at your suggestion that doing so on MMOC off topic somehow makes the world a worse place apparently makes me a Trump supporter.

The air couldn't get any thinner.

I get it, you didn't understand the comparison, but you're making yourself look really silly with the invented addons. You should browse, reddit/r/iamverysmart I think you'd fit right in with the content posted there. (:

It actually does - you're just clued in enough to understand. The air is pretty thick and pungent down here, which is why were dispensing with pleasantries and getting down to brass tacks.

(as a side note, I didn't get the reference to South Park - I saw it, but didn't put it together - and for that I take a 5-minute time out - /shame)

This is a serious time for the United States, and we don't need any more distracting efforts, regardless of inventive you might think they are. We don't. I know you'll just keep posting more little one-liner zingers you found in your reddit site (do you understand that you knowing about it but I don't, tells us a lot about you, not me) hoping someday a reckoning will happen and you'll place in the Top 100 interweb winners.

If you really don't care, then don't bother responding. You're right in your own mind and that's not only all that matters, it's also never going to change.

This could, however, be one of those communication misunderstandings and we actually both see the same bigger picture. I'm open to that. Just let me know.

[Deleted]

Just had time to come back, but if I don't know the basics of business, I sure as shit have done very well with my business. Granted it's a service, with minimal overhead outside of infrastructure, but I guess it must be a low-risk industry and I'm just extremely lucky.

Take 1000 coin-flipping monkeys and give them a peanut if they flip heads. 1 very lucky monkey will be getting a lot of peanuts.

The difference between them and the "celebrated entrepeneur" is that they aren't bragging about their coin-flipping skills, lecturing other people about how they need to flip coins harder, or trying to take peanuts off other monkeys basic food rations.

[Mormolyce]

Can a factual statement be racist? Sorry they never taught PC culture at my college.

I'll have to assess that in the unlikely event you ever make one kek.

[alturic]

Take 1000 coin-flipping monkeys and give them a peanut if they flip heads. 1 very lucky monkey will be getting a lot of peanuts.

The difference between them and the "celebrated entrepeneur" is that they aren't bragging about their coin-flipping skills, lecturing other people about how they need to flip coins harder, or trying to take peanuts off other monkeys basic food rations.

It's amusing to think I'm one of the lucky ones. Yea, no. Learn some more about business before you try commenting on business.

[Felya]

It was quoted that the most socialist counties are also the most happy, which I pointed out are also the whitest.

What is not factual again?

Here is what you said:

"Nations that have wealth redistribution programs are consistently the happiest and whitest in the world."

Fixed for you, give them a couple years of Mass Islam for prospective change.

That is not a fact, it is a racist opinion. Show the couple of years of mass Islam changing perspectives...

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I'll have to assess that in the unlikely event you ever make one kek.

He is saying that in a couple of years of “Mass Islam” will change the socialist, happy countries. He is pointing to Islam turning socialism to no longer be favorable... I think he just called Trump, mass Islam... or is being racist... not sure...

[Jeezy911]

He is saying that in a couple of years of “Mass Islam” will change the socialist, happy countries. He is pointing to Islam turning socialism to no longer be favorable... I think he just called Trump, mass Islam... or is being racist... not sure...

Just the idea that there are a high percentage of kids today that believe Socialist ideology and Islamic culture are somehow positives for any society is somewhat frightening.

[Noradin]

Just the idea that there are a high percentage of kids today that believe Socialist ideology and Islamic culture are somehow positives for any society is somewhat frightening.

But your "ranking of happiness" shows that incorporating parts of socialist ideology is positive for any society.

[Hobb]

It was quoted that the most socialist counties are also the most happy, which I pointed out are also the whitest.

Ranking of Happiness 2014-2016 (top 20)

1. Norway
2. Denmark
3. Iceland
4. Switzerland
5. Finland
6. Netherlands
7. Canada
8. New Zealand
9. Australia
10. Sweden
11. Israel
12. Costa Rica
13. Austria
14. United States
15. Ireland
16. Germany
17. Belgium
18. Luxembourg
19. United Kingdom
20. Chile

and of course:

Percent of Caucasians per country




What is not factual again?

Your list for starters is not factual. The United States is number 19 and dropping.

Direct quote from the report:

The USA is a story of reduced happiness. In 2007 the USA ranked 3rd among the OECD countries; in 2016 it came 19th. The reasons are declining social support and increased corruption (see Chapter 7) and it is these same factors that explain why the Nordic countries do so much better.

Source: http://worldhappiness.report/ed/2017/

[Thekri]

By demanding sharia law? Islamic cultures do not assimilate, the goal will always be to create an Islamic state if you are true to teachings.

In fact they assimilate very well, because they don't "Remain true to teachings", in the absence of persecution, Muslim youths get caught up in the same iPhone and Facebook culture as everyone else, which draws them into an increasingly homogenous society with everyone else. The west has an incredibly powerful culture once immersed in it.

However if you refuse to let them assimilate, by threatening them, fearing them, demonstrating against them, and refusing to allow them to join that culture, then that isolation will breed extremism. Islamist extremists are basically powerless unless they can incite an emotional reaction from the western nations, you are doing their job for them.