Sex Trafficking Victim Convicted After Murdering Captor May Have A 2nd Chance

[josykay]

Statutory rape, given that she consented but was underage.

No, because she didn't consent either. Consent because of threats is void. And here it doesn't matter if the costumer or the pimp threatened her.

[Noradin]

Which is completely irrelevant. She did not consent, so she was raped. Weather he knew it or not. He was costumer of a child trafficker and pimp....
From her point of view he was part of the system, and at best indirectly a catalyst for her suffering. If you enter that branch, with tons of red flags, you can easily get in trouble...

Which is irrelvant for her crime, as vigilantism is illegal and this wasn't a case of self defense (because he was sleeping).
According to the source he wasn't "costumer of a child trafficker and pimp", he paid her directly without ever coming into contact with her pimp.

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No, and he would probably not have been convicted of rape, at least, if he had no involvement in the trafficing ring, and really didn't know, what was going on..
But the lack of consent, regardless of age does still make it rape for the girl...

And vigilance is still illegal.

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No one argues that. But for a Minor 51 years to life , after she became victim of a heinous crime, and the killing was directly connected with it, seems to be a bit excessive. Not to mention, that the possibility for a trial as adults for minors, even just 10 years old, kind of undermines the purpose of a juveline court.

Of course it is excessive, but that is a seperate issue.
No minor should ever be tried as an adult. Under any circumstances. It is barbaric.

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No, because she didn't consent either. Consent because of threats is void. And here it doesn't matter if the costumer or the pimp threatened her.

Statory rape for him, rape for her.
Still no excuse for murder.

[Mistame]

No, because she didn't consent either. Consent because of threats is void. And here it doesn't matter if the costumer or the pimp threatened her.

If the client was unaware of the coercion, he did not rape her, but did commit statutory rape. Also, the accounts I've read state that she said she agreed to have sex with him for money. You seem to either be missing or ignoring the nuance of the scenario.

[pateuvasiliu]

No, and he would probably not have been convicted of rape, at least, if he had no involvement in the trafficing ring, and really didn't know, what was going on..
But the lack of consent, regardless of age does still make it rape for the girl...

If she gave no signs of opposition to the sex it's only statutory rape, which is quite different from violent rape.

If someone's raping someone else violently you're allowed to use quite a bit of force to defend them. If a 18 year old fucks a 16 year old you aren't allowed to jump into a room and shoot him.

Anyhow even if it was violent rape she still shot a sleeping dude in the head so really there's no excuse.

[Speaknoevil]

Anyhow even if it was violent rape she still shot a sleeping dude in the head so really there's no excuse.

You really show your sickly heart with this statement.

Nothing wrong with a preemptive strike when you have no recourse.

[Hilhen7]

She stole his money, truck, and guns after murdering him by shooting the man in the back of the head. Yeah that's not someone who has my sympathy. Why exactly did she need to take his guns and truck?

She was probably already thinking of committing additional crimes with the guns. I don't know why you would want her out on the streets, what exactly would she do once she is out?

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You really show your sickly heart with this statement.

Nothing wrong with a preemptive strike when you have no recourse.

Preemptive? They already had sex, and he is asleep. Why wouldn't she just leave the house?

[pateuvasiliu]

You really show your sickly heart with this statement.

Nothing wrong with a preemptive strike when you have no recourse.

No, YOU show your sickly heart by excusing murder.

Preemptive strike? He was sleeping. She could've shot him in the leg ( which is still bad ) or just held him at gunpoint until he called for the cops, at which point she'd be free.

Instead she chose to enact vengeance on the wrong man, murdered him in cold blood and now she will hopefully rot in jail.

[Elba]

There's no deserved murder unless it's self defence ie. protectiong yourself from immediate threat of death. The people that keep saying this bullshit that X crime it's alright to murder victim are on the level of ISIS ffs. We have moved on from eye to eye thankfully.

ISIS is pretty pro rape. Killing rapists, especially those that raped underage sex slaves, is pretty anti rape.

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No, YOU show your sickly heart by excusing murder.

Preemptive strike? He was sleeping. She could've shot him in the leg ( which is still bad ) or just held him at gunpoint until he called for the cops, at which point she'd be free.

Instead she chose to enact vengeance on the wrong man, murdered him in cold blood and now she will hopefully rot in jail.

Guy was a rapist, one you keep defending for some reason. That is quite sickly.

[josykay]

If the client was unaware of the coercion, he did not rape her, but did commit statutory rape. Also, the accounts I've read state that she said she agreed to have sex with him for money. You seem to either be missing or ignoring the nuance of the scenario.

You know, that protitutes of pimps don't have much choice to agree? Since they are often subjected to violence if they refuse or deliver not enough money? Pimps wouldn't even have to interact with the costumer personally, to threat...

[Hilhen7]

ISIS is pretty pro rape. Killing rapists, especially those that raped underage sex slaves, is pretty anti rape.

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Guy was a rapist, one you keep defending for some reason. That is quite sickly.

Lets say he is guilty of rape. She is also guilty of murder. Case closed, why are you defending a murderer?

[LiiLoSNK]

Johns who rape minors / victims of forced prostitution deserve it.

2 Birds, 1 stone, and a pimp named Kut-Throat.

[Mistame]

You know, that protitutes of pimps don't have much choice to agree? Since they are often subjected to violence if they refuse or deliver not enough money? Pimps wouldn't even have to interact with the costumer personally, to threat...

What part of this so hard to grasp? A client is not "raping" a prostitute if the prostitute has agreed to have sex with him in exchange for money unless he knows that the prostitute is operating under duress/threat.

[pateuvasiliu]

ISIS is pretty pro rape. Killing rapists, especially those that raped underage sex slaves, is pretty anti rape.

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Guy was a rapist, one you keep defending for some reason. That is quite sickly.

He was a statutory rapist at best. And even if he was a rapist that's not grounds to kill him.

It's like some of you are unable to think with your heads instead of your hearts. Sure, her story is tragic but it's not an excuse to murder someone. Murder trumps rape in vileness.

[Hilhen7]

Also luckily she was caught after her first murder. Who is to say that she would have stopped at one murder victim, after all she did steal his guns.

[Mistame]

If your argument is something like, "People that buy prostitutes are scum" then maybe you'd have a point.

No, you really wouldn't. Now if your argument is, "People that enable human and child trafficking by paying pimps for trafficked prostitutes are scum", then you'd certainly have a point. There is no valid argument, whatsoever, against two adults making a consensual exchange of money for services.

[josykay]

What part of this so hard to grasp? A client is not "raping" a prostitute if the prostitute has agreed to have sex with him in exchange for money unless he knows that the prostitute is operating under duress/threat.

Because she was FORCED to "agree". Consent made under threats is void, no matter WHO the treat makes. If you want to make sure, that a prostitute is not forced, don't go into shady "street work".
And from the prostitute's perspective it is RAPE because there is no valid consent... are the defenders of rape really that dense?

[cparle87]

Nah she shouldn't. She killed a man, whose only crime was paying for sex. He couldn't have known she was forced into it. And then she killed him while he was asleep and claims it was in self defense? Please.

Give her a lenient sentence, because she was traumatized. But her actions can't be condoned or excused. That man didn't deserve to die.

My thoughts exactly. Couldn't have put it better myself.

[triplesdsu]

Thats not self defense. Maybe if it was her pimp.

[arandomuser]

Except that's not even remotely accurate.
She didn't kill her captor - She killed a guy who bought sex from her.
Note, that's from her, not her pimp, Her.
She should be in jail for life.

oh ok she just killed a guy that was paying to rape her, oh im sorry , that poor dude right? think about how you sound

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oh ok she just killed a guy that was paying to rape her, oh im sorry , that poor dude right? think about how you sound

She wasn't raped by him.