Will Capitalism Die With Baby Boomers?

[Forogil]

My goalpost the entire time has been "a liberal arts degree isn't useless because it includes sciences"

And you stated that it includes engineering, which you now seem to have abandoned.
Note that science is not useful by default. There is some science that is useful, and some that isn't - and some that isn't useful yet.

You could have stated that your were wrong - but instead you thought it better to use insults.

[igualitarist]

If Capitalism dies, the free world dies with it.

If capitalism dies, we will recede to the feudalism age. Just look how Cuba and North Korea are basically feuds of the dominant families. In those countries, the government chooses what you eat and how much you eat, in exchange for protection, just like happened during the feudalism.

What destroyed feudalism was the rise of bourgeoisie (mostly due to the trade with the east), who challenged the power of the aristrocrats (government) and gave birth to the age of enlightenment and to liberalism (the economic theory).

Without economical freedom and the valorization of the indivudual, people lose power and governments gain power. This means an absolute regress to the age where few had absolute power over the lives of everyone. Just like happened in feudalism and in every other country where capitalism was overthrown.

[Celista]

there are alternatives; military and trade schools. there are so many jobs in this country that people do not want because they feel the job is beneath them or cant get because they dont have the required skill set. Both of these options can get you in a career you can afford to survive with.

but we get it, you're (not you specifically) a special millennial and you certainly are too good to be an electrician or welder...for example.

It's not about "feeling special", most millennials were pushed into a college education because they were taught that was what you're supposed to do.

[bladeXcrasher]

It's a pointless question if you didn't figure that out from my response. It doesn't matter if there aren't BA engineering degrees because a BS degree can also be a liberal arts degree.

Oh right, how silly of me. Because the whole premise of an arts degree is to allow someone flexibility in the classes they take, so a science degree, which has required math and science classes and less electives is just a beefy arts degree with less choices.

[Forogil]

No, I haven't. It does include engineering. Seriously how fucking hard is logic for you? It includes the sciences. The sciences include engineering.

Take a fucking logic course, you need it.

It normally does not. Logic doesn't help if the premises are wrong - like science not fully include engineering as applied science.

Liberal arts skip the professional, vocational, and technical curriculum - which is quite important to engineering - that was from your own link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_arts_education

[Wyrt]

I don't know, the US managed to survive despite the boomers shitting all over it constantly. I'm sure it'll be fine with millennials, we just might finally join the rest of the developed world.

[perasite]

Even if it did "die with Baby Boomers", the next revolution to overthrow the oppressive government brought on by your vaunted socialism/communism will once again reinstall capitalism. It's almost like history repeats itself or something.

[Dreyen]

Capitalism isn't 100% bad, but some socialism is always required. You want to get rid of a select few controlling an entire market like oil, you want to promote things that advance human society but nobody wants to invest (ie: canada had to give money to a company to install internet cables across the country becuase nobody wanted to do it because of costs) and your country should always be able to ensure that essential services like health care, food, education and a place to live are acccessible to all even the less fortunate.

Pure Capitalism would never work

That said, while the worlds leaning more and more left as generations go, I doubt the current state of say, the US, is going to change very fast. Politics in the US are very corrupt because all of the money for a campaign needs to come from your pocket, so only the rich and those supported by extremely rich people can ascend into presidency and seats of power. What do you think happens when youre Trump and youre getting tons of millions from oil companies and bankers? You pass laws that benefit them, just like the tax cut he's trying to pass.

[Shadee]

Capitalism will never die because it is the best system. The government does a terrible job of running things.

[oleander89]

Unless you can change human nature, socialism will always fail.

[Forogil]

How does not science not fully include engineering? It's literally applying sciences such as math, physics and chemistry.

It is based on science - but that doesn't make it science in itself. The spectrum from basic research-normal science-development is quite wide.

And once more you fail to provide any support for your statement, and miss the important part from your link that indicates your error.

Again, in general a liberal arts degree can and does very often include things like math, physics, chemistry, engineering, etc.

The engineering part is the one that you repeatedly have failed to provide support for.

It is not strictly an art degree like some people like to believe and bash on. That is the point. Stop saying inane shit and beating this strawman horse to death.

Who are you talking about?

[bladeXcrasher]

It's based on science.. so would you say that maybe it applies science? Making it an applied science?

Again, you're arguing desperate inane semantic bullshit that has nothing to do with my original statement that a liberal arts degree isn't useless.

Engineering is fucking physical science, stop being fucking dense.

Liberal arts degrees aren't useless, still doesn't make engineering a liberal art, and the lack of any BA of engineering seem to support this fact of life.

[Rukario]

I think we could archieve something very close to capitalism but without all the misery, extreme poverty and all around suffering it causes so many ppl...if we tried.

[Basileus]

After reading this thread, I have learned one thing: MallSecurity is the biggest douche on this entire forum.

OT: Capitalism isn't going away for a long time, if ever. It will continue to be tweaked and adjusted, as it has been for the last century or so, but until something radically changes the human mind, I don't see it going away. Sorry.

[bladeXcrasher]

Except that a BS degree can also be a liberal arts degree which completely contradicts your argument.

What? What sort of perverted mental gymnastics is this?

[Vash The Stampede]

ERRRR WRONG! Horseshit, I am Gen X and we are NOT fucking conservative, as for capitalism it's been dying for a while.


But Capitalism isn't going anywhere for a while as more countries finally move to it, that is when international crisis will hit.



http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...r-generations/

I don't think capitalism will ever die, because it's been saved before many times. Each time capitalism has been saved, it's done through social programs and tighter control over corporations. The next step for capitalism is when we introduce gamification to it. You still have private businesses and what not, but money itself is a lot like WoW gold. Sure it matters, but in the grand scheme of things it's just a game that everyone wins when you play. Everyone receives UBI and the government will take back control of essential businesses that society needs. Things like health care and homes. At that point capitalism will be a shell of its former self.

[Doctor Amadeus]

I don't think capitalism will ever die, because it's been saved before many times. Each time capitalism has been saved, it's done through social programs and tighter control over corporations. The next step for capitalism is when we introduce gamification to it. You still have private businesses and what not, but money itself is a lot like WoW gold. Sure it matters, but in the grand scheme of things it's just a game that everyone wins when you play. Everyone receives UBI and the government will take back control of essential businesses that society needs. Things like health care and homes. At that point capitalism will be a shell of its former self.

I don't think Capitalism will die, but what it means now is already changing a bit.

[Hiricine]

Each generation generally starts liberal and becomes more conservative as they get older, Gen X and Millennials will be conservative at large as they age.

Anyways, Capitalism will never die because people will always be looking for a system thats not a system thats not more likely than not to get them killed.

[bladeXcrasher]

You're saying engineering isn't included in liberal arts because there is no BA in engineering and only a BS degree. Except that doesn't matter since a BS degree can also be a liberal arts degree.

It's not mental gymnastics, it's simple logic. You're getting hung up on the word "art" being in the title of the degree for some reason.

Except I'm not, by definition a liberal arts degree is not a focus degree program, like an Electrical Engineering program.

https://www.topuniversities.com/blog...arts-education

[Dastreus]

I hope so. Need that socialism. (Not communism, despite what retards who will say socialism is communism.)