Young women on sexual harassment in the workplace

[TheFirstOnes]

Back in the day:

Man: Heyeheyeheyyyy....Jenny...

Jenny: Yeah?

Man: Was wondering if you wanted to go out sometimes. You have a nice "Personality". *Winks*

Jenny: How about no? *Walks away*

Man: Awww....

Now:

Male: Heyeyheyeheyyy....Olivia....

Olivia: EWWW!!! WHAT ARE DOING?! WHY ARE YOU LOOKING AT ME LIKE THAT?! ARE YOU SEXUALLY HARASSING ME?!

Male: N..no....I was just wondering if you wanted to go out, that's all. D:

Olivia: AHHH!!! HOW DARE YOU WANT ME! STOP HARASSING ME YOU SICK WHITE MALE! RAPE! RAPE!

Male: ....I....I don't even....

*Shit happens all over the place*

:/

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Back in the day:

Man: Heyeheyeheyyyy....Jenny...

Jenny: Yeah?

Man: Was wondering if you wanted to go out sometimes. You have a nice "Personality". *Winks*

Jenny: How about no? *Walks away*

Man: Awww....

Now:

Male: Heyeyheyeheyyy....Olivia....

Olivia: EWWW!!! WHAT ARE DOING?! WHY ARE YOU LOOKING AT ME LIKE THAT?! ARE YOU SEXUALLY HARASSING ME?!

Male: N..no....I was just wondering if you wanted to go out, that's all. D:

Olivia: AHHH!!! HOW DARE YOU WANT ME! STOP HARASSING ME YOU SICK WHITE MALE! RAPE! RAPE!

Male: ....I....I don't even....

*Shit happens all over the place*

:/

Only in your head

[Deianeira]

Hsha sarah really got a stick up her... you know what, needs to find a pud and chill out

Lol and with that comment you just helped her make her case in this thread. Wow amazing

[Deleted]

In 32 years of being alive I have never witnessed a woman being sexually harassed either in the workplace or elsewhere. I'm sure it happens, but it can't possibly happen as often as women want to make you think it does. If it did, everybody would be able to witness it all the time. Women would also come forward a lot more frequently because they'd be believed more easily. It's just bullshit. Another case of women wanting to pretend as if their lives are harder than those of men.

And besides, I'm sure a lot of women welcome some of that "sexual harassment" in the workplace, because it helps them advance their career. A lot of women are very willing to suck that dick to climb that corporate ladder. Often the same women that complain years later about sexism, that they helped enable.

[TheFirstOnes]

Only in your head

No...no...

Pretty sure i'm speaking to more than just myself here.

Besides, as a man who's been alive for quite a while, there have been little to no sexual harassment cases yet. If anything, I find this thread more bullshit than anything else.

[Deleted]

In 32 years of being alive I have never witnessed a woman being sexually harassed either in the workplace or elsewhere. I'm sure it happens, but it can't possibly happen as often as women want to make you think it does. If it did, everybody would be able to witness it all the time. Women would also come forward a lot more frequently because they'd be believed more easily. It's just bullshit. Another case of women wanting to pretend as if their lives are harder than those of men.

And besides, I'm sure a lot of women welcome some of that "sexual harassment" in the workplace, because it helps them advance their career. A lot of women are very willing to suck that dick to climb that corporate ladder. Often the same women that complain years later about sexism, that they helped enable.

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No...no...

Pretty sure i'm speaking to more than just myself here.

Besides, as a man who's been alive for quite a while, there have been little to no sexual harassment cases yet. If anything, I find this thread more bullshit than anything else.

No you're talking nonsense

[TheFirstOnes]

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No you're talking nonsense

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A rather Ironic post right there...

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A rather Ironic post right there...

You're saying women scream sexual harassment on a "Hello", that's nonsense

[RyanEX]

It's a legal issue in Sweden at least and employers are supposed to do something about it when they get knowledge of it.

In Sweden you say...oh I can just imagine how that works.

[BiggestNoob]

Read the study, don't read the article. The questions aren't very specific, leaving interpretation up to the person answering questions. It also doesn't indicate how candidates for the survey were selected, which means there is likely a strong selection bias given the small sample size.

The majority of the responses that look like they actually indicate a serious problem get an overwhelming "no" answer, but they aggregate the maybe, ifs, and awkward / unwanted verbal communications that aren't necessarily legally considered harassment (such as a hostile workplace or consistent unwanted behavior). Someone telling a crude joke at lunch once, that a few people found offensive but most people didn't, and never doing it again after a manager hears a complaint, for instance, would be enough to answer "yes" to much of these, which is hardly sexual harassment. Someone you're not attracted to in your ENTIRE EMPLOYMENT HISTORY asking you on a date and you answering no, and then them leaving you alone, would be enough to put you into this category if you were too sensitive. This is the problem with asking leading questions or questions open too much to interpretation.

The methodology and lack of transparency in selection makes this fairly uninteresting. This number is highly inflated due to what they've chosen to include, so this is sensationalist, and it doesn't help people who are actually victims of workplace sexual harassment to trivialize or normalize this behavior. Many of these questions allude to social media or digital messaging, in cases as these a sexual harassment claim would be trivial to pursue, as would a lawsuit against the company if they took no action, so the next question is: is the mere "this has happened to me, ever, in my life" the problem, or is it the case that much of these instances are dealt with appropriately, something this survey doesn't even attempt to answer.

[Mormolyce]

You’d think they’d write it in the contract, otherwise it wouldn’t be enforceable, but they don’t.

I don’t contract with your workplace, I don’t do any Australian business nowadays, so how is your workplace relevant to me?

Go ask your HR department if contractors are covered by their workplace policies. I'll wait.

[Kalis]

Go ask your HR department if contractors are covered by their workplace policies. I'll wait.

I don’t have an HR department. Theoretically I am my HR department, but I’m not sure I’d listen to a complaint about me sexually harassing myself.

I am curious as to why you think you know more about my contracts than I do, considering I draft them - technically a lawyer in Athens drafted the original, but she was under my instruction of what to include and I didn’t put anything in there about being subject to the internal HR processes of the companies I contract with.

[Mormolyce]

I don’t have an HR department. Theoretically I am my HR department, but I’m not sure I’d listen to a complaint about me sexually harassing myself.

I am curious as to why you think you know more about my contracts than I do, considering I draft them - technically a lawyer in Athens drafted the original, but she was under my instruction of what to include and I didn’t put anything in there about being subject to the internal HR processes of the companies I contract with.

I very much doubt that the company you contract for doesn't have an HR department or equivalent policies (where is this - Malta? Even so I don't buy it), but okay as an experiment go and sexually harass one of your colleagues and see how it goes.

[Mistame]

Your employment is usually in the form of a contract and therefore usually a legal issue.

Sexual harassment in most places is a crime. I don't think your employer should be able to say "We found you guilty of a crime" when no formal investigation was made and only terminate your employment to cover their ass. Libel is also a crime.

Well. It can become a legal issue if it's not properly handled by employers.

By "legal", I was referring to laws and the court system as mentioned by the person I quoted. There is no law against "sexual harassment", at least not in the US. It's something that's handled by the employers.

Do you have a job? Ask your HR rep to explain them to you if you think they're vague.

We don't have a HR department. We also don't complain about someone telling a naughty joke. That still doesn't change the fact that half that list is outright stupid. And while there's certainly a clear point of inappropriate when it comes to these things, when they're too subjective, they're inherently irrational.

[Darkeon]

Just the fact that a place called "BBC" confronted them, in regards of their workplace, is enough reason to consider it a sexual harassment scenario.

[Kalis]

I very much doubt that the company you contract for doesn't have an HR department or equivalent policies (where is this - Malta? Even so I don't buy it), but okay as an experiment go and sexually harass one of your colleagues and see how it goes.

What colleagues? My girlfriend? Me? I work from home on projects that require specialist skills in marine or aviation insurance.

There is absolutely nothing in my contracts about me being subject to any of their internal processes. Why would I want to include something like that?

[Mormolyce]

What colleagues? My girlfriend? Me? I work from home on projects that require specialist skills in marine or aviation insurance.

There is absolutely nothing in my contracts about me being subject to any of their internal processes. Why would I want to include something like that?

But you aren't running a home business, right? So you're contracting FOR a company, yes?

We don't have a HR department. We also don't complain about someone telling a naughty joke. That still doesn't change the fact that half that list is outright stupid. And while there's certainly a clear point of inappropriate when it comes to these things, when they're too subjective, they're inherently irrational.

Where do you work? Like, what kind of company.

[Kalis]

But you aren't running a home business, right? So you're contracting FOR a company, yes?

I contract for various companies. They offer me work, I send them a contract, they sign it and email it over with the work, I finish the work and send it back, they pay me.

There is no HR department involved, there is no agreement that I am subject to their internal processes, if they don’t like my work then they won’t use my services.

Sometimes I visit clients, but I don’t sign anything with them and they’re not my clients, they are the clients of the people I am contracted with. Sometimes I visit the companies, but they are on a social basis, not as an employee.

[Mormolyce]

I contract for various companies. They offer me work, I send them a contract, they sign it and email it over with the work, I finish the work and send it back, they pay me.

There is no HR department involved, there is no agreement that I am subject to their internal processes, if they don’t like my work then they won’t use my services.

Sometimes I visit clients, but I don’t sign anything with them and they’re not my clients, they are the clients of the people I am contracted with. Sometimes I visit the companies, but they are on a social basis, not as an employee.

If you are ever on site you are probably covered anyway. Contractors are very common, the degree to which they are embedded in the company varies of course but I've never heard of some kind of loophole where they aren't subject to the usual workplace policies. In fact all the companies I've worked at have taken pains to remind us that those policies do apply to contractors.

[Mistame]

Where do you work? Like, what kind of company.

I work for a city (small town).