Antoryn High Command Mythic. Tracking bomb detonations

[Deleted]

Hey everyone,

I was wondering if someone could tell me, how you can find in warcraftlogs, who triggered how many mines during the bossfight. We keep wiping to unwanted minetriggers but cannot pinpoint what people struggle the most with them. Any help is very appreciated!

cheers,
Dizzy

[Sxq]

There is a separate spell ID for mine explosion blast and dot ticks from mines, so just find the one that corresponds to the damage taken from mine explosion

HOWEVER... There is no way to distinguish between the person that triggered a mine, and a person who was near them since there is a small radius on the explosion. If there was one mine triggered, but you see two people in the damage taken list, you cannot figure out who's fault it actually was.

[Deleted]

dont forget that on mythic bombs explode after a certain amount of time aswell so it might not always be a players problem

[Deleted]

Thanks for the feedback! So there is absolutely no way, to distinguish between the one who triggered and the one who just happened to be in 6Y range ?

[Ardeth]

No

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[Phookah]

dont forget that on mythic bombs explode after a certain amount of time aswell so it might not always be a players problem

They do that on heroic as well.

[setsuna f seiei]

They do that on heroic as well.

the time it takes to explode (on hc) you'd be on the 3rd boss clearing already

[Chewtoy]

Thanks for the feedback! So there is absolutely no way, to distinguish between the one who triggered and the one who just happened to be in 6Y range ?

That's not correct. If you use warcraftlogs, the problem's tab has who triggered the mine and at what time, it also includes who else it hits when x person runs over it.

[Sxq]

That's not correct. If you use warcraftlogs, the problem's tab has who triggered the mine and at what time, it also includes who else it hits when x person runs over it.

Oh cool I stand corrected then - the problems tab does show the person who triggered the mine.

[Temp name]

That's not correct. If you use warcraftlogs, the problem's tab has who triggered the mine and at what time, it also includes who else it hits when x person runs over it.

And besides, even if there wasn't, over 10+ pulls you'd be able to see who keeps consistently getting hit, which should tell you who triggers it

[Deleted]

There is a separate spell ID for mine explosion blast and dot ticks from mines, so just find the one that corresponds to the damage taken from mine explosion

HOWEVER... There is no way to distinguish between the person that triggered a mine, and a person who was near them since there is a small radius on the explosion. If there was one mine triggered, but you see two people in the damage taken list, you cannot figure out who's fault it actually was.

You can go into the replay and see which player moved at that time, but takes a ton of time if you want to check for an entire evening.

[Zaraki21]

Hey everyone,

I was wondering if someone could tell me, how you can find in warcraftlogs, who triggered how many mines during the bossfight. We keep wiping to unwanted minetriggers but cannot pinpoint what people struggle the most with them. Any help is very appreciated!

cheers,
Dizzy

There is in fact away to tell! In warcraftlogs you click on "Problem" tab next to replay and under Entropic Blast you will see who triggered it (at time, and who it hit)

[osa]

It's not always moving that triggers them, but also not moving.

That's deep.
"- I swear I didn't move. THE MINE WAS MOVING TOWARDS ME. Terrified I couldn't make a step."

The best way to know I think is to check who was moving at the moment when people got hit with primary mine blast. Guess it's the way wcl Problems tab is doing it.

[crashley]

So my guild was progressing on the fight last night and we saw (around 50% boss hp) some bombe detonating by themselves, causing an instant wipe as we got up to 7 stack of the ticking debuff.

We need to explode those bomb preemptively so it does not wipe us ? I have'nt seen anyone doing that in the video kills, can you outrange the explosion ?

Thanks in advance

[Eyechewer]

So my guild was progressing on the fight last night and we saw (around 50% boss hp) some bombe detonating by themselves, causing an instant wipe as we got up to 7 stack of the ticking debuff.

We need to explode those bomb preemptively so it does not wipe us ? I have'nt seen anyone doing that in the video kills, can you outrange the explosion ?

Thanks in advance

Your dps must be sky high if you only noticed it on mythic. The mines explode by themselves after Like 3 minutes if I am not mistaken. Even on heroic and normal - The offtank needs to clear mines 2-3 at a time while not tanking.

He only needs to do this on the admiral though (the first pod). Afterwards just let them third pod guy clear it. And again when admiral spawns, again offtank needs to do it.

That's on heroic at least, can't speak about mythic, but I would assume it is the same.

[ReVnX]

That's deep.
"- I swear I didn't move. THE MINE WAS MOVING TOWARDS ME. Terrified I couldn't make a step."

The best way to know I think is to check who was moving at the moment when people got hit with primary mine blast. Guess it's the way wcl Problems tab is doing it.

The mine can drop on top of you. Hence, not moving

[CrazieBird]

I am trying to figure out HOW warcraftlogs determines who triggered the mine. I know that there are the 2 damage taken spells (245121 shows who takes damage from the triggering and 253290 shows dot damage taken) and 1 debuff spell (253290 the dot debuff). As far as I can tell there are no other spells at play so how does warcraftlogs make the determination on who triggered it if 2 people take the trigger damage and get the debuff at the same time?

[The Cheat]

Your dps must be sky high if you only noticed it on mythic. The mines explode by themselves after Like 3 minutes if I am not mistaken. Even on heroic and normal - The offtank needs to clear mines 2-3 at a time while not tanking.

He only needs to do this on the admiral though (the first pod). Afterwards just let them third pod guy clear it. And again when admiral spawns, again offtank needs to do it.

That's on heroic at least, can't speak about mythic, but I would assume it is the same.

This isn't required on Heroic. If your General pod's first player is fast enough they can nuke the very first mine spawn in the fight before it auto-detonates.

[garicasha]

I am trying to figure out HOW warcraftlogs determines who triggered the mine. I know that there are the 2 damage taken spells (245121 shows who takes damage from the triggering and 253290 shows dot damage taken) and 1 debuff spell (253290 the dot debuff). As far as I can tell there are no other spells at play so how does warcraftlogs make the determination on who triggered it if 2 people take the trigger damage and get the debuff at the same time?

That's a good question. Perhaps the combat log entry for the triggerer is first.

[SpikeySquad]

I am trying to figure out HOW warcraftlogs determines who triggered the mine. I know that there are the 2 damage taken spells (245121 shows who takes damage from the triggering and 253290 shows dot damage taken) and 1 debuff spell (253290 the dot debuff). As far as I can tell there are no other spells at play so how does warcraftlogs make the determination on who triggered it if 2 people take the trigger damage and get the debuff at the same time?

When I saw this question come up in the WCL Discord it was said it did a distance check and the person closest gets flagged. This was a while back now though and it may have changed.

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Go to the Problems tab on WCL to see who explodes them.