Sweden has received too many immigrants

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Wow that's some severe historical ignorance right there. I just need a moment to recover from it, it's kind of staggering.

Mussolini's blackshirts were also a group of street bruisers who beat up communists like Hitler's SA. Fascism was absolutely an anti-communist reactionary movement from its inception.

You mean the ones Hitler killed in the night of long knives?
This group: Strasserism (German: Strasserismus or Straßerismus) is a strand of Nazism that calls for a more radical, mass-action and worker-based form of Nazism, hostile to Jews not from a racial, ethnic, cultural or religious perspective, but from an anti-capitalist basis, to achieve a national rebirth. It derives its name from Gregor and Otto Strasser, the two Nazi brothers initially associated with this position.

Still you get that if the SS and the SA were closely aligned (like any political party consisting of multiple strands of complementary thought) that requires them to be, you know, similar?
Regardless, Benito Mussolini was an avowed socialist, who eventually 'realized' that it didn't work, and set out to make something new that could work, this was him trying to improve upon communism - this is elementary historical fact.

[sarahtasher]

Race and eugenics has never been a left or right thing. Not that I care which "side" the "evil nazzis" were on or identified themselves with. That's not an agrument.

No, not at all. Rabid racism is TOTALLY not an alt-right thing.

[warlordoflordwar]

No, not at all. Rabid racism is TOTALLY not an alt-right thing.

Indeed, far more racism stems from the alt-left.

The KKK was originally a democrat organization.

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I get a feeling politicians these days in Sweden doesnt look for the best of the country. They rather wanna look good to the people and do the "right choices".

2016 we had a record year with cars set on fire, record high murders in Malmö. All these are most likely because we cant intergrate people good enough or get everyone jobs so they feel left out. Its not an excuse to do the shit that happens but when we already have problems and we take in more than we can handle... its not good.

When politicians doesnt think about whats happening in the country and instead just wanna look good on paper or to the people and say things like "take in all we can, we have no problems" or similar, its not good. I dont mind to take in refugees/immigrants ofc, but we cant really take in everyone and their relatives that come here. Wont work out in the end obviously.

[Baltasar]

If a immigrant just do one crime they get sendt to their homeland but nooo sweden is so fucking tolerant and dont wanna be racist.
No wonder your country is a piece of shit.

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No, not at all. Rabid racism is TOTALLY not an alt-right thing.

The Swedish government, engaged in forcible sterilizations from 1931 to and i'm not fucking kidding - 1976 During this time SAP - Swedish workers party, was in charge almost the entire time.
And yes, the sterilizations were done for eugenic, social health, 'genocide reasons (Gypsies)' and control of anti-social's.
Are you going to tell me that they are alt-right?

[sarahtasher]

Indeed, far more racism stems from the alt-left.

The KKK was originally a democrat organization.

Yes, that one is never getting old. It's obvious that all the rats flying together Nazi flags and Confederates ones this year are left wing. It's obvious too that the ''values'' of the KKK are totally not alt-right ones but kommunists one.

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I get a feeling politicians these days in Sweden doesnt look for the best of the country. They rather wanna look good to the people and do the "right choices".

Country wanting to purge themselves of people with impure blood end up so well most of the time.

[Mormolyce]

You mean the ones Hitler killed in the night of long knives?

This is mind bending.

Yes, the SA that Hitler eliminated when it was no longer useful to him. One of the many anti-Communist bruiser organisations that birthed the Nazi movement.

You really need to pick up a history book. I'm seriously embarrassed for you reading these cringeworthy posts.

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you cant have enough mimigrants. Immigrants are the solution to every economic struggle. They will fix everything, including world hunger. because they are highly educated people who will help us develop new tech for our daily buisnesss.

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Yes, that one is never getting old. It's obvious that all the rats flying together Nazi flags and Confederates ones this year are left wing. It's obvious too that the ''values'' of the KKK are totally not alt-right ones but kommunists one.

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Country wanting to purge themselves of people with impure blood end up so well most of the time.

Why did you bring up purging lol? Are you retarded or that crazy? I dont see how it always have to be so fucking black & white with desicsions, like there cant be a middle ground. Either you are evil or good... fuck that mentality.

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No way.



Shocked.

[Spectral]

The Swedish government, engaged in forcible sterilizations from 1931 to and i'm not fucking kidding - 1976 During this time SAP - Swedish workers party, was in charge almost the entire time.
And yes, the sterilizations were done for eugenic, social health, 'genocide reasons (Gypsies)' and control of anti-social's.
Are you going to tell me that they are alt-right?

On the American front, the most eugenicist President I'm aware of was Woodrow Wilson (Atlantic article on the matter). It's kind of interesting, the early 20th century progressive movement was heavily into scientific racism.

[sarahtasher]

BTW, contrary to what people assume here, stating merely ''there are too many immigrants and we can't take more'' is not what normal call ''Nazi''. I would struggle however to find one far right party in Europe that actually manage to stuck to this line and does not on wild tangents about Jews, gays and so forth. Or that just says ''we need to close our borders'' without implying ''while expelling the swarthy savages''

[Dezerte]

totally false.

"The fundamental differences between left-wing and right-wing ideologies center around the the rights of individuals vs. the power of the government. Left-wing beliefs are liberal in that they believe society is best served with an expanded role for the government. People on the right believe that the best outcome for society is achieved when individual rights and civil liberties are paramount and the role — and especially the power — of the government is minimized."

https://www.diffen.com/difference/Le..._vs_Right_Wing

Hitler was a left-wing german nationalist, thats it, you cant be a right winger calling your party national-SOCIALIST ( just cant happen,sorry)

This is false. And that website of yours seems to only describe American politics so it's not very relevant in a discussion about Nazi Germany. Nazi Germany was as much socialist as North Korea is democratic, for the people or a republic (since Democratic People's Republic of Korea is the actual name).

[Dmitro]

Hitler was as socialist as the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is democratic mate.

wasnt hitler in favor of big government?

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And nationalism is almost exclusively right wing, I think that has always been the case.

Absolutely false ( unless we are talking about NA only), in EU for example most of so called "right" wing parties arent for deregulating the market and overall lowering of governments impact on economics and society. Have a look at le Pen's party for example, left-wing nationalists

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You are correct. But your point on here is like pissing in the wind.

what you mean

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. And that website of yours seems to only describe American politics so it's not very relevant in a discussion about Nazi Germany.

I live in USA, and its quite simple in our country

in favor of big government - left wing, against - right wing. THATS IT more or less.

in EU unfortunately most of nationalists wrongly consider themselves right-wing, whilst having lots of socialist economic ideas. bad.

[Deathknightish]

BTW, contrary to what people assume here, stating merely ''there are too many immigrants and we can't take more'' is not what normal call ''Nazi''. I would struggle however to find one far right party in Europe that actually manage to stuck to this line and does not on wild tangents about Jews, gays and so forth. Or that just says ''we need to close our borders'' without implying ''while expelling the swarthy savages''

What? Seriously, what?

I'm not gonna discuss countries like Germany and France, but you won't find those rethorics in Scandinavia.
Neither Fremskrittspartiet, Sverigedemokraterna or Folkeparti have implied any of those things.

Actually, here is a picture from the last election regarding Sverigedemokraterna;


SD does not hate jews, several of the top dogs are jewish (Björn Söder, Jomshof and Kent Ekeroth) and they are fine with people from all over the world coming here as long as they accept Swedish values. Something which a whole lot of the people coming here since 2015 will not do, thus they should be deported as they do not share our values. SD does not hate homosexuals either. They are by far the most represented party during the Pride carnival here.



Here's another SD official. Really looks like a party who hates people of foreign ethnicity for foreign ethnicity's sake :^)

[XDurionX]

wasnt hitler in favor of big government?

If you think being an antidemocrat and fascist is representative for "big government", i don't know what to tell you. And little hint: It's not the "Alt-Left" that is known for Hitler salutes and swastika armbands. You might want to educate yourself a little, this is really embarrassing.

[Dmitro]

If you think being an antidemocrat and fascist is representative for "big government"

Exactly true, its normally left wing big governments that punish free-speech and political opponents (NAZIS,USSR,CHINA,N.KOREA,VENEZUELA)

educate yourself on this topic.

[XDurionX]

Why would anti democracy and fascism put a stop for big government? Hitlers party had a lot of socialist policies.

Hitler was exactly the opposite of a "socialist". He stripped defenseless minorities of basic human rights, forbade them engaging in trivial activities, denied them access to public offices and in the end is fucking RESPONSIBLE FOR 60 MILLION DEATHS.

This "Hitlar WAS A LEFTIE REEE REEEEEE...SO......SOS...SOSHALUSM" is laughable. It's a pretty common deflection attempt, but once this is brought up you know for sure the poster is either trolling, poorly educated, or both. It is not "the left" that prays for Hitler's second coming. That alone should tell you something.

[Dmitro]

Hitler was exactly the opposite of a "socialist". He stripped defenseless of basic human rights, forbade them engaging in trivial activities, denied them access to public offices and in the end is fucking RESPONSIBLE FOR 60 MILLION DEATHS.

This "Hitlar WAS A LEFTIE REEE REEEEEE...SO......SOS...SOSHALUSM" is laughable. It's a pretty common deflection attempt, but once this is brought up you know for sure the poster is either trolling, poorly educated, or both.

false, hitler implemented lots of social securities for german people, for example really made pensions large ( in comparison with before). ( its a socialist talking point btw, like democrats in USA)
You should judge such matters based on facts, not emotions and propaganda, being emotional is really bad when it comes to history and politics (:

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It is not "the left" that prays for Hitler's second coming. That alone should tell you something.

wrong, its not correct to judge ideology by its followers, you better read actual policies and so on.