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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnagarde View Post
    Because we have undead humans, undead high elves, blood (high)elves, an offshoot of night elves and so on. It is hard for the Alliance to keep up with so many ex/Alliance races in the Horde.
    In a way you have just proven the point. With the Alliance you have the right to withdraw, make you own choice, decide your nation fate. The Alliance is a military alliance, like NATO nothing more. The Horde is defacto power to the Warchief. A dictatorship with them in charge of everything.

  2. #42
    ... So now they're "an Alliance", yet you bitched for more Horde unity not long ago...?

    Which one is it? Or should people just start reporting your threads on principle?

    I don't care either way, I don't have some need for my home faction to be "the good boy!", but seeing the complaints on these forums one wouldn't know what to think about either faction...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    Of all the horde leaders...the only one that didn't actively oppose Garrosh would be Gallywix...who was just sitting on the fence.
    Actually... no, Gallywix was against Garrosh, not for any altruistic reasons, is just that Garrosh did not paid him for his works, and you know what Gallywix hate? is losing money!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pebrocks The Warlock View Post
    You really need to keep your opinion consistent.

    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...-in-the-future
    haha rekt nerd

  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by ABEEnr2 View Post
    well the horde leaders blindly followed Garrosh and look where that got them at the end.
    You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

    It's the exact opposite of what happened during MoP and SoO.

  6. #46
    @OP

    WTF are you on about? Biased much?

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxilian View Post
    Actually... no, Gallywix was against Garrosh, not for any altruistic reasons, is just that Garrosh did not paid him for his works, and you know what Gallywix hate? is losing money!
    I suppose...but he did kind of wait until he could see which direction the wind was blowing before joining the rebellion.
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  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by united View Post
    i’ll admit that a lot of races in the horde don’t like each other, which is why i also said they need more unity. but at the same time even with their dislike, they work together. or it at least isn’t just orcs all the time.

    the alliance sure they all love each other but they blindly follow a human monarchy, and for what? the night elves for example have just gotten shafted over and over and now they’re getting their treehouse burned down lol.
    They work together by negating eachother's work. The Horde has become a mess ever since the undead, and to a certain extent the elves too, have taken the spotlight. At least the blood elves have been useful in Legion's class campaigns, but the undead have been horrible for the Horde since day one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by honoursword View Post
    In a way you have just proven the point. With the Alliance you have the right to withdraw, make you own choice, decide your nation fate. The Alliance is a military alliance, like NATO nothing more. The Horde is defacto power to the Warchief. A dictatorship with them in charge of everything.
    The current warchief of the Horde doesn't even care about the Horde; she only replaced the Forsaken with all of the Horde and now all of the Horde is at her disposal to keep herself and only herself afloat. Even though Anduin is a young character and an inexperienced commander, at least he fights for all of the Alliance equally and doesn't view certain races within it as a means to an end, but as those he wants to see trouble through with.

    At this point if feels like that everything Blizzard has no idea what to do with is thrown into the Horde, as we've seen with the undead and blood elves.
    Last edited by Magnagarde; 2018-01-07 at 02:25 AM.

  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnagarde View Post
    The current warchief of the Horde doesn't even care about the Horde; she only replaced the Forsaken with all of the Horde and now all of the Horde is at her disposal to keep herself and only herself afloat.

    At this point if feels like that everything Blizzard has no idea what to do with is thrown into the Horde, as we've seen with the undead and blood elves.
    Exactly!! The Alliance makes perfect sense, the Horde does not.

  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by honoursword View Post
    Exactly!! The Alliance makes perfect sense, the Horde does not.
    The Horde used to make sense too, but oh well, can't beat the "progressive wave" within the Horde, in the form of elves and undead.
    Last edited by Magnagarde; 2018-01-07 at 02:28 AM.

  11. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    Of all the horde leaders...the only one that didn't actively oppose Garrosh would be Gallywix...who was just sitting on the fence.
    He would've if the rebellion didn't go well. Read the short story "The Blank Scroll" sometime. He really impressed me.
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  12. #52
    >Ignores MoP development where the Races of the Alliance got closer because of Varian

    >Says the Alliance blindly follows a Wyrnn.

    Honestly if you're gonna make dumb threads at least big creative.

    Every thread you made the last months was trying to paint the Alliance in a bad light while making the Horde look less bad.
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  13. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Darktbs View Post
    >Ignores MoP development where the Races of the Alliance got closer because of Varian

    >Says the Alliance blindly follows a Wyrnn.

    Honestly if you're gonna make dumb threads at least big creative.

    Every thread you made the last months was trying to paint the Alliance in a bad light while making the Horde look less bad.
    all anduin did in mop was shack up with wrathion tbh

  14. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by united View Post
    all anduin did in mop was shack up with wrathion tbh
    Managed to read the whole post ay boy?
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  15. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by united View Post
    tfw the alliance's high king was given the position because he fell out of the right #$%!@&. no military experience at all, it's just that king chin was his dad.

    the horde has given multiple races the chance to shine, it has undead, elves, orcs and friends working together. and soon thalyssra and the nightborne will be joining us too.

    the alliance likes to call themselves an alliance, but really it's led by a spoiled brat, who's being manipulated by chewbacca. other leaders like velen, tyrande, and the dwarven chick just show up to collect their paychecks for the expansion every 3 patches or so.

    so why is the horde more of an alliance than the alliance?
    Because alliances change over time?

  16. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Darktbs View Post
    Managed to read the whole post ay boy?
    you’re correct, varian proved his worth but he’s dead now so i’m not sure why you’re bringing him up.

    just because his dad was a worthy leader doesn’t mean anduin is destined to be one

  17. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by united View Post
    you’re correct, varian proved his worth but he’s dead now so i’m not sure why you’re bringing him up.

    just because his dad was a worthy leader doesn’t mean anduin is destined to be one
    "Races of the Alliance got closer because of Varian"

    What do you think the Races of the Alliance will suddenly distrust one another after Varian's death?If anything it made the bond even stronger because they are now honoring a great King .
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  18. #58
    The Game lore is utter shit.

  19. #59
    Sniveling fanboyism strikes again.

  20. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by Darktbs View Post
    "Races of the Alliance got closer because of Varian"
    You mean when Varian showed everyone how shit they are and how awesome he is?

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