Child death rate higher in United States than other wealthy nations

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Black-Americans shoot each other at ridiculous rates and fail to engage in reasonable health habits. Whites to blame. News at 11.

Are you none too bright ?

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Your link doesn't say any of that. This is what is says.



The vast majority of religious people in the world would believe that there is some sort of God-hand, either creationist or not, that isn't an American only thing.

I'll take your post as nothing more than a thinly veiled attempt at nation bashing at this point.

Apologies, I should have said that the remainder included Intelligent Design believers. In other words, 38% are pure Creationists, the remainder are a mixed group, simply being those who don;t believe in the biblical Creation, but a wide range of other views, including non-religious.

However, for my money, Intelligent Designers should be in with the Creationsts. They all believe God Did It.

There is no evidence for Creation or Intelligent Design. Not unless you think that the Intelligent Designer wasn't, err, very good at it.

Yes, the vast majority believe in some sort of God, but there is a direct connection between how materially well off you are and how educated you are and how likely you are to believe in God.

AFAIK America is the only country where most people aren't grindingly poor and where most have an education to at least High School level where almost four in ten of the population believe that the biblical Creation myth is literally true

Generally speaking, societies become less religious as they get richer and better educated. In some, of course, the religious caste has such a strong grip on power that religion is pounded into everyone from birth as a fact as true as the sun rising and where there are big punishments for non-believers.

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Are you none too bright ?

Nah, he's a redneck who has totally bought into the concept that The US of A is the gerrr-eatest place on earth and takes it as a personal insult when this is shown not to be true.

The trouble is, I think, is that America's economic and military supremacy has lead to false notions of superiority - in other words, we're the richest and the strongest, therefore we must be the best at everything.

Had you asked a British person at the height of the British Empire, they'd likely have had the same ideas.

It's going to be a huge culture shock when China surpasses America economically.

That is why people are voting for Trump and his Make America Great/America First nonsense. It is fear of suddenly no longer being top dog. Such persons also happily buy into conspiracy theories about how America is being betrayed, swindled, conned.

This is easier to accept than the fact that American industries are declining because the ones in Asian countries are more innovative, produce better products more cheaply because their employees work harder for less money and are better educated.

Much of America has coasted along on the inertia of dominance, this is true of all empires as they start to decline, they become complacent and assume they are top dog by divine right, that this cannot change as it is the natural order of things.

[Sargerasraider]

Apologies, I should have said that the remainder included Intelligent Design believers. In other words, 38% are pure Creationists, the remainder are a mixed group, simply being those who don;t believe in the biblical Creation, but a wide range of other views, including non-religious.

However, for my money, Intelligent Designers should be in with the Creationsts. They all believe God Did It.

There is no evidence for Creation or Intelligent Design. Not unless you think that the Intelligent Designer wasn't, err, very good at it.

(I do not mean this as a thread derail, nor as an attempt to move this to a religious discussion).

There is a huge difference between 7-day creationism and looking at the statistical unlikelihood of abiogenesis (which to this point there is not a fantastic theory for the initial origin of life) and considering that there may be an intelligent source behind it. The two aren't remotely close.

[bladeXcrasher]

Apologies, I should have said that the remainder included Intelligent Design believers. In other words, 38% are pure Creationists, the remainder are a mixed group, simply being those who don;t believe in the biblical Creation, but a wide range of other views, including non-religious.

However, for my money, Intelligent Designers should be in with the Creationsts. They all believe God Did It.

There is no evidence for Creation or Intelligent Design. Not unless you think that the Intelligent Designer wasn't, err, very good at it.

Yes, the vast majority believe in some sort of God, but there is a direct connection between how materially well off you are and how educated you are and how likely you are to believe in God.

AFAIK America is the only country where most people aren't grindingly poor and where most have an education to at least High School level where almost four in ten of the population believe that the biblical Creation myth is literally true

Generally speaking, societies become less religious as they get richer and better educated. In some, of course, the religious caste has such a strong grip on power that religion is pounded into everyone from birth as a fact as true as the sun rising and where there are big punishments for non-believers.

Pretty much this:

(I do not mean this as a thread derail, nor as an attempt to move this to a religious discussion).

There is a huge difference between 7-day creationism and looking at the statistical unlikelihood of a biogenesis (which to this point there is not a fantastic theory for the initial origin of life) and considering that there may be an intelligent source behind it. The two aren't remotely close.

[cparle87]

I'm rude to you because you are blatantly trying to put words in my mouth. That or you are completely dense, I am willing to believe either.

However, using your "bad habit" creates "bad nation" logic. Are you saying that it's the population of the United State's fault that the US is a shit country? Here I thought people were trying to blame the rich. Interesting that you seem to despise your own people, assuming you are from the US that is. I actually still don't know for sure.

Yes. The population elected officials who they felt best represented what they wanted. If those officials then turn the country to shit, then it's the fault of the population who elected them. That's how a representative democracy works.

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Yes. The population elected officials who they felt best represented what they wanted. If those officials then turn the country to shit, then it's the fault of the population who elected them. That's how a representative democracy works.

Then we agree. The US is a shit country because the people that live there are shit.

[Independent voter]

Then we agree. The US is a shit country because the people that live there are shit.

Mom? 10chars

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Mom? 10chars

Son? Is that you?

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.e1ed06b0239c



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.e1ed06b0239c

Crazy.
This should be a front and center topic and instead we got the elites in Washington cutting taxes for the rich and spending even more on the military.
If we can't even provide adequate healthcare for newborns then what are we doing.

Answer is pretty simple, but the masses are too easily distracted by partisan wedge issues. We have a major income and wealth inequality issue in the US. Most people in the US don't have lots of money, and that leads to that kind of statistic.

The simplest measure is the GINI index - https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/ind....GINI/rankings

The US is number 63 (just below Russia and its oligarchs), which doesn't sound so bad except check out the list above. Nowhere most people want to live.

How does that compare to the OECD countries from the article?

Australia - number 100
Canada - number 107
Sweden - number 144 (out of 154 listed)
Japan - number 120
Germany - number 133

You can keep looking them up if you like, but I trust I've made my point. The countries doing better are those where the income and wealth are much more fairly distributed.

BTW, the US is going to up that list even further with the recently passed tax bill. While idiots are celebrating their crumbs, whole pieces of the pie are being taken by the super-rich which will make this phenomenon even worse.

This video is more than 5 years old, so the data is even more skewed than what was presented. Until the masses understand that, these reports will continue to remain a mystery to them.

[Easo]

The saddest thing about this is that too many people are trying to defend this, shift the discussion elsewhere or just do the good old whataboutism (especially about Europe).

[Eggroll]

Which is an economic policy, and yes it works if you like to be a rich nation. We all know that "real socialism has never been tried" but all the fake ones have failed so lets not ruin a great country with college kid wisdom.

There are other alternatives, you know? It's not all black and white, everything or nothing, there is still middle ground if one is willing to see it. I don't mind the US to have their crazy system which more and more resembles a totalitarian regime, civil war and everything as long as they don't bother the rest of the world with it they can kill each other off all day long. If this is what makes them happy, so be it.

[oxymoronic]

The private prison population is 20 - 25 % I don't think there is an exact number but they profit in order ways they subcontract a lot of services to private companies. The solution is simple but will take time reform prisons to be a place where people get second chances instead of coming back, we have done it before. The prison system in the US used to have a low return rate due to educational, psychological and help system programs that were build in. The laws need to be changed especially in terms of drugs, voting and rehabilitation into society.

All this is far less expensive than having these people keep coming back to prison at the tax payers expense, they will be productive members of society paying taxes instead of taking money.

im not gonna bother looking for something more current as this should suffice... the argument has been going on for years

In 2015, just 8% of the nearly 1.53 million state and federal prisoners in the U.S. were in private facilities, up slightly from 5% in 1999. State inmates make up the majority of the U.S. private prison population, as well as the overall U.S. prison population.

i think we are done here.

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Answer is pretty simple, but the masses are too easily distracted by partisan wedge issues. We have a major income and wealth inequality issue in the US. Most people in the US don't have lots of money, and that leads to that kind of statistic.

The simplest measure is the GINI index - https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/ind....GINI/rankings

The US is number 63 (just below Russia and its oligarchs), which doesn't sound so bad except check out the list above. Nowhere most people want to live.

How does that compare to the OECD countries from the article?

Australia - number 100
Canada - number 107
Sweden - number 144 (out of 154 listed)
Japan - number 120
Germany - number 133

You can keep looking them up if you like, but I trust I've made my point. The countries doing better are those where the income and wealth are much more fairly distributed.

BTW, the US is going to up that list even further with the recently passed tax bill. While idiots are celebrating their crumbs, whole pieces of the pie are being taken by the super-rich which will make this phenomenon even worse.

This video is more than 5 years old, so the data is even more skewed than what was presented. Until the masses understand that, these reports will continue to remain a mystery to them.

i think you're all wrong. i think the super rich is a good thing for a country to have and in time will work to our advantage. lets see in the future.

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This is easier to accept than the fact that American industries are declining because the ones in Asian countries are more innovative, produce better products more cheaply because their employees work harder for less money and are better educated.

removed the dribble about religion. lets focus on this for a minute. ahh never mind i think you're too far gone to educate. cya

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(I do not mean this as a thread derail, nor as an attempt to move this to a religious discussion).

There is a huge difference between 7-day creationism and looking at the statistical unlikelihood of abiogenesis (which to this point there is not a fantastic theory for the initial origin of life) and considering that there may be an intelligent source behind it. The two aren't remotely close.

true... hell i believe in the computer simulation theory more than i believe in the 7day god built it all theory and i was raised roman catholic.

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Then we agree. The US is a shit country because the people that live there are shit.

to a degree sure. but do you really think your shit doesnt stink?

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to a degree sure. but do you really think your shit doesnt stink?

And what would that be?

If it's my country then no. I think my country, Sweden, is one of the top countries in the world. Yeah we had an oopsie in our immigration policy but I'm fairly confident it's an issue we will be capable of resolving.

If it's my stand that I think the US is a shittier country than some Arab countries, then no again. Yeah, Arab countries don't have many good things going for them, but honestly neither does the US. It's a shitstain country filled with ignorance, racism and sexism. It's built to benefit the rich and burden the poor. It engages in every war there is, and can't manage to provide it's population with free education and healthcare. On top of that, it's really religious, which in my opinion is a really bad thing.

[Hooked]

Well lots of wealthy nations don't share borders with 3rd world countries, but we do. Now put that into your calculations.

Enemy #1, Mexico.

The movie scarface was basically a documentary of the Cuban mariel boatlift. Fidel castro said he flushed his toilets and sent them here. Don't you think other countries do the same exact thing?.

[PickleballAce]

Then we agree. The US is a shit country because the people that live there are shit.

I thought we all agreed we can't say that any more...?

/handwringing intensifies

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I thought we all agreed we can't say that any more...?

/handwringing intensifies

I agreed to no such thing.

Besides, I don't believe it wholeheartedly, I just used the same logic as the guy I was discussing. I personally believe the US is a shit country because the rich is currently in control and money currently has a bigger voice in the US than it's people.