New Scarab Lord mount

[RobertoCarlos]

It affects people because they want a new mount to be obtainable doing current or future content, not past content.

I have the Ultramarine, though, if that matters any!

Both scarab mount threads seem like its you vs the world. Are you quite the passionate mount collector?

[Yarathir]

Both scarab mount threads seem like its you vs the world. Are you quite the passionate mount collector?

I dunno. There's quite a surprising lot of people who at least mention that they don't fully agree with the decision, and some that heavily disagree with it. I expected less.

But yeah, Qiraji are my favorite mount type, from the moment I started playing, and they still are. That probably causes the "passion", but I honestly think the same of any mount that gets added. If it were a horse or raptor, or whatever, I would've had the same or a similar opinion on it.

[ReleaseDay]

Fix'd that for you

Yeah, no way its as high as .2% more like .002% and thats including wotlk ppl.

[Jonsse]

Incoming AQ timewalking

[Yarathir]

Incoming AQ timewalking

In my opinion, what would be cool is like a pre-launch event AQ Timewalking with a mythic difficulty or something, and if you take it down with a guild, you get a guild achievement that awards this mount.

[Allybeboba]

Yeah, no way its as high as .2% more like .002% and thats including wotlk ppl.

Something 250 people out of 10,000,000.

[God Save The King]

Sorry we're occupied laughing about you and the rest of these casual scrubs. Maybe ask yourself if you deserve to have mimiron's head and invincible although you never killed the respective bosses when they were current content.

I'd be fine with them removing those mythic only mounts. People shouldn't be able to get them trivially expansions later.

An equivalent argument would be if they updated the model for the Black Proto Drake, and then gave it only to people who had the original Black Proto Drake.

Or if they removed Mimiron's head from the loot table, and then a decade later updated the model and gave it to people who had the original.


No one in this thread is arguing that they should just be handed the mount. Most people are arguing against people who have literally done nothing to earn a new mount, are getting a free, updated mount, for something done a decade ago, likely during the WotLK exploit.

All people really want is the opportunity to get the new mount. Make it ungodly difficult, fine, but why make a new mount, and give it away for free, to people who've done nothing?

[burzian]

I'd be fine with them removing those mythic only mounts. People shouldn't be able to get them trivially expansions later.

An equivalent argument would be if they updated the model for the Black Proto Drake, and then gave it only to people who had the original Black Proto Drake.

Or if they removed Mimiron's head from the loot table, and then a decade later updated the model and gave it to people who had the original.


No one in this thread is arguing that they should just be handed the mount. Most people are arguing against people who have literally done nothing to earn a new mount, are getting a free, updated mount, for something done a decade ago, likely during the WotLK exploit.

All people really want is the opportunity to get the new mount. Make it ungodly difficult, fine, but why make a new mount, and give it away for free, to people who've done nothing?

Just because they're adding new content to the game doesn't mean it's automatically required that it become obtainable by newer players. This would be like if they offered optional updated skins for Benediction, Anathema, or Rhok'delar. That would be a very cool thing to do for veteran players and it would go against the entire ethos of a reward like that to make it obtainable by people who weren't playing at the time.

I don't have a scarab mount, but I'm 100% fine with them keeping the prestige intact while updating the model. Plenty of other stuff for newer players or people who didn't get 'em while they were hot.

[God Save The King]

Just because they're adding new content to the game doesn't mean it's automatically required that it become obtainable by newer players. This would be like if they offered optional updated skins for Benediction, Anathema, or Rhok'delar. That would be a very cool thing to do for veteran players and it would go against the entire ethos of a reward like that to make it obtainable by people who weren't playing at the time.

I don't have a scarab mount, but I'm 100% fine with them keeping the prestige intact while updating the model. Plenty of other stuff for newer players or people who didn't get 'em while they were hot.

So they should add content.... that the current playing and paying customers.... cannot obtain, and make it only obtainable by completing a questline.... 13 years old?

Let's make the next raid only enterable by people who cleared ToC in WotLK.

[Yarathir]

So they should add content.... that the current playing and paying customers.... cannot obtain, and make it only obtainable by completing a questline.... 13 years old?

Let's make the next raid only enterable by people who cleared ToC in WotLK.

Let's make that updated horse model a mount.

But only given to players that have the original retired Palomino mount!

[God Save The King]

Let's make that updated horse model a mount.

But only given to players that have the original retired Palomino mount!

Yeah...

Also, I don't mind veteran rewards, for those who are arguing a reward for loyalty. The issue is, this is rewarded to people for completing an ancient quest. They could have gotten their mount, cancelled their sub, and restarted it today to get the new mount. There is no "loyalty" or "veteran" reward.

[burzian]

So they should add content.... that the current playing and paying customers.... cannot obtain, and make it only obtainable by completing a questline.... 13 years old... that is currently only able to be completed by inventing time travel?

Let's make the next raid only enterable by people who cleared ToC in WotLK.

Yeah, that's totally the same thing. An entire raid that rewards gear crucial for the progression of your character is a lot like one event-based mount skin.

Sorry you can't get your bug mount. I guess you can't have everything. Spreading your FOMO all over the place probably won't get them to reconsider, though.

[God Save The King]

Yeah, that's totally the same thing. An entire raid that rewards gear crucial for the progression of your character is a lot like one event-based mount skin.

Sorry you can't get your bug mount. I guess you can't have everything. Spreading your FOMO all over the place probably won't get them to reconsider, though.

I don't care about the ugly bug mount. I care that content is being created that actively excludes current players.

And also, I didn't say this raid was tier or crucial for progression. Please try to keep up and not twist my words.

They should make an updated ToC, only accessible by those who cleared the original.

Not sure why this upsets you though, "Just because they're adding new content to the game doesn't mean it's automatically required that it become obtainable by newer players". "That would be a very cool thing to do for veteran players"

[khazlol]

So they should add content.... that the current playing and paying customers.... cannot obtain, and make it only obtainable by completing a questline.... 13 years old?

Let's make the next raid only enterable by people who cleared ToC in WotLK.

They clearly updated the model for the event, not for scarab lords. that was just the bonus not the incentive.

[God Save The King]

They clearly updated the model for the event, not for scarab lords. that was just the bonus not the incentive.

I assume you have a blue quote to verify your statement? I had not heard of this. If true, then it's less of a big deal.

[burzian]

I don't care about the ugly bug mount. I care that content is being created that actively excludes current players.

And also, I didn't say this raid was tier or crucial for progression. Please try to keep up and not twist my words.

They should make an updated ToC, only accessible by those who cleared the original.

Ahhhh. So you're not so much a disenfranchised wannabe bug-rider, but a champion for the fair and equitable access to content? Understood. I'll make more of an effort to keep up with your intricate hypothetical scenarios in the future.

Luckily, I still think you're wrong. Little perks like this (and yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and say one mount skin ain't exactly an entire raid) for veteran players of a 13+ year old game is a good thing. You don't have a right to every piece of content they create just because you're a current player. You're welcome to think so and to tell everyone you think so, but it seems like Blizzard agrees with me on this one.

[God Save The King]

Ahhhh. So you're not so much a disenfranchised wannabe bug-rider, but a champion for the fair and equitable access to content? Understood. I'll make more of an effort to keep up with your intricate hypothetical scenarios in the future.

Luckily, I still think you're wrong. Little perks like this (and yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and say one mount skin ain't exactly an entire raid) for veteran players of a 13+ year old game is a good thing. You don't have a right to every piece of content they create just because you're a current player. You're welcome to think so and to tell everyone you think so, but it seems like Blizzard agrees with me on this one.

They could just update the health and damage and re-release it, not anywhere near the difficulty of a whole new raid.

Sorry the hypotheticals are too intricate for you, I will try to simplify them in the future.

[burzian]

They could just update the health and damage and re-release it, not anywhere near the difficulty of a whole new raid.

Sorry the hypotheticals are too intricate for you, I will try to simplify them in the future.

Good thing I got the quote in before you edited out the pettiness.

Finally, we agree on something! Blizzard Entertainment is capable of updating an old raid. Glad that's settled. Now remind me again how this means you should get a bug mount?

Listen; I believe a mount skin is well within a reasonable person's threshold for what's acceptable for Blizzard to produce and only offer to specific legacy achievement-havers. Clearly you don't, and that's fine.

[sonololo]

You are aware that some people were awarded it legitimately.

No. No one of them done it legitimately. No one. No one of them are free from sin. It's an original sin.

[Yarathir]

Why are you so hellbent on people "cheesing it"?

You are aware that some people were awarded it legitimately, and that you're just whining, right? Perhaps you need some of that cheese to go with your whine?

My god, man or woman, get a grip.

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Because that's not the way the world works, apparently.

No. Even worse, I'm going to continue giving my opinion, statement, claims and facts. I'm going to do that now, I'm going to do that in an hour from now.

I will do it on this topic and any other topic that pertains to my interest. On this very forum, this public online forum.

And you - will deal with it.

I hope you don't wake up in a cold sweat from the nightmare where someone expresses their disagreement tonight.