OP Racials

[nomorepriest]

Tanks = Tauren Horde

Rugged Tenacity - Reduces damage taken by 1.8% of stamina.
Mountaineer - Increases your Versatility by 1%.

Healing/Damage = Void Elf Alliance

Essence of the Void - increases damage and healing by 5% for 12 seconds.
Preternatural Calm - Your spell casts are not delayed by taking damage.


Range Damage = Nightborne Horde
Arcane Affinity - Increases magical damage 1%.
Arcane Pulse - Deals 5000 Arcane damage to nearby enemies every 2 seconds and snares them by 50%. Lasts 20 sec.


Seems like alliance is favored with damage(melee and range) and healing vs just range damage and tank for horde and the horde damage requires to be in melee range for the other talent



With the next 2 allied races do you think they might favor melee damage?
Do you think the racials are going to be lackluster like lightforged?

[Deleted]

Void Elf racial is far from being op. It's worse than some of the older ones.

[Deleted]

Blizz stated that Racials are largely made with lore and flavour in mind. By the way, you forgot Spatial Rift for Void Elves. It's criminally underrated at the moment.

It'll changr when more and more max lv Velves will start to pop up though. It's a fantastic racial.

[Deleted]

Well the thing about Spatial Rift is that it is only great if you are a great player. Most players will struggle to use it properly.

Yeah i have already seen many people whining that it's a useless racial. I mean what!? This racial is amazing. It's not a straight up mobility or blink racial. It can let you travle insane distances in combination with other mobility options.

It requires a bit of pre planning, but top PvP players are going to do some impressive jukes with this thing.

[nomorepriest]

I was only listing performing stats...

Teleport and mining faster or whatever else is just extra.

[bmjclark]

A flat 1% damage for being nightborne (granted only as a caster) has got to be up there for damage racials tbh.

[Nasuuna]

So Horde has had berserking and bloodrage for 13 years, but alliance get 1 good racial and its unfair?

Ignore op

[Dakhath]

I was only listing performing stats...

Teleport and mining faster or whatever else is just extra.

"Teleport" is not just extra. If used correctly, it can easily be the most valuable racial Velves have.

[nomorepriest]

You are right.. I’ll add that.

A flat 1% damage for being nightborne (granted only as a caster) has got to be up there for damage racials tbh.

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Only if you tunnel a lot... it’s called just dodging shit

"Teleport" is not just extra. If used correctly, it can easily be the most valuable racial Velves have.

[Deleted]

Void elves are not op,for tanks the op are either highmountain tauren or night elf depending on what stats you want. The rugged tenacity passive for highmountain might look good but if you actually do the math its terrible, my main tank has around 164000 stamina which means he mitigates about 3000 damage per hit meanwhile he has an HP pool of 10,6 million meaning that the actually damage being mitigated essentially zero when you take into consideration things like, armor, stagger and any other mitigation.

For dps human,dwarf/tauren, belf, troll and goblin are the only realistic choices, there might be some niche exceptions and if you know any please post a sim to back it up, i know that for my friend nightborne is a few hundred dps above troll for the gear he is wearing right now, The idea that either faction is overpowered is just wrong unless you are an arcane mage and the troll racial is so far ahead its silly,

[Deleted]

A flat 1% damage for being nightborne (granted only as a caster) has got to be up there for damage racials tbh.

Assa Rogues use poisons a lot. Sub has some shadow damage. Hunters have some magic damage here and there. Especially Survival in BfA from the looks of things.

I think only Warriors don't benefiet from that 1% racial.
Now granted, that 1% harder hitting Arcane Shot isn't going to blow people away or anything, but it's still more damage.

[nomorepriest]

Alliance has flat % for dodge for tanks Nightelf
Stone form dwarf
Gift of the naaru Draeni 20% heal
Increase 1% haste or a aura that gives main stats.

. GTFO

So Horde has had berserking and bloodrage for 13 years, but alliance get 1 good racial and its unfair?

Ignore op

[Deleted]

I was only listing performing stats...

Teleport and mining faster or whatever else is just extra.

Teleport isn't 'just extra'. It's a HUGE deal. Anybody who knows how to use their timers in DBM will make great use of this in mythic raids.

[corebit]

Positioning is king in both competitive PVE and PVP, and the Velf teleport racial is certainly one of the stronger ones out there. As many people said, only skilled players will use it to the fullest and make it seem OP. The average player will look at its moving speed and base range and go "meh."

[AwkwardSquirtle]

Only if you tunnel a lot... it’s called just dodging shit

Sure, but the less time you spend dodging the more time you can spend doing regular dps.

[RobertMugabe]

I see the exact same thread daily here...

And no, the Allied races racials aren't nearly as strong as you think. All of them are, in fact, quite insignificant (not something a mythic raider would consider to race Change). Anyways, though, this thread should be closed.

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Yeah i have already seen many people whining that it's a useless racial. I mean what!? This racial is amazing. It's not a straight up mobility or blink racial. It can let you travle insane distances in combination with other mobility options.

It requires a bit of pre planning, but top PvP players are going to do some impressive jukes with this thing.

Using it should also break roots (at least that's what I just had).

[Splenda]

There are existing threads to discuss this in.