Lorthemar in the Battle for Lordaeron!!

[Aquamonkey]

Yet ironically Sylvanas is some innocent little flower even though she'll murder anyone...enslave a entire race for her selfish goal.

They had it coming.

[Niroshi]

Using Logic? Don't be silly! It's easy for them to call her a bitch like they do for any other strong Alliance female.

This right here is bordering on weird. The amount of hate these characters get for tiny things is comical.

[Oneirophobia]

Democrats and republicans are two distinct races though

Even though Belves and Helves are the same, for Alleria it's a more conflicting thing going on. All 3 sorts are the same people, High Elves, Blood Elves and Void Elves. And two of them is the ones she decided to go with. Even though every damn High Elf is technically the same people. Just with two(now three?) different ideologies.

Yes, that is entirely correct. The guy I was referring to says the blood elves were never Alleria's people, the high elves where. They're the same people under different governing bodies, just like the Nightborne under Elisande vs the Nightborne under Thalyssra.

[Kithelle]

This right here is bordering on weird. The amount of hate these characters get for tiny things is comical.

They called Tyrande a bitch just for her simple questioning of the Nightborne, who twice proven untrustworthy and now Alleria is a bitch because she chose to side with her living sister (Who they also call a bitch and hope she gets killed) instead of her Undead one.

So the only theory I can conclude to is they think all strong Alliance women are bitches, which is ironic since a fair bit of Hordies on here worship someone like Sylvanas

[Aquamonkey]

Alleria is a bitch because she chose to side with her living sister (Who they also call a bitch and hope she gets killed) instead of her Undead one.

I'm sure it has nothing to do with Vereesa sympathizing with the plight of her people yet turning on them because her cousin was a racist. Throwing tantrums about Aethas being in the Kirin Tor and appointed to a seat on the Council despite his valorous actions saving her beloved adopted home. Also ordering the murder of civilians and attempting to cut off their escape. Also copying the highest elven military rank without earning it.

Sylvanas may be evil and vindictive against humans, but she at least sent genuine aid to her people. The worst she did to them was twist Lor'themar's arm into sending troops to fight the Lich King.

[corebit]

Humans, sure. Orcs, when? Blizz had an opportunity at SoO but they walked out of it immediately by saying most Orcs joined the rebellion.

And how do you quantify "most"? Anything over 50% can also be called "most", and the opposition would still be significant. But in the end the numbers are irrelevant, Humans and Orcs will always be centerpiece races of this game. You can have all the genocides in the world and the lore will still say they are the most numerous races in their respective factions.

[Mehrunes]

Using Logic? Don't be silly! It's easy for them to call her a bitch like they do for any other strong Alliance female.

Yet ironically Sylvanas is some innocent little flower even though she'll murder anyone...enslave a entire race for her selfish goal.

The only one to call her a bitch in this thread is you. In fact, you're the first person to use the word in the entire thread. So congrats on constructing two armies of straw-men in a single post. All that practice in doing so is giving visible results.

Also, "logic". Her friends and the nation she loved are in the Horde. Sylvanas is still her sister.

So the only theory I can conclude to is they think all strong Alliance women are bitches, which is ironic since a fair bit of Hordies on here worship someone like Sylvanas

Today on "Things that only happen in the world of Alliance victim complex".

And how do you quantify "most"? Anything over 50% can also be called "most", and the opposition would still be significant. But in the end the numbers are irrelevant, Humans and Orcs will always be centerpiece races of this game. You can have all the genocides in the world and the lore will still say they are the most numerous races in their respective factions.

Given how the people who followed Garrosh turned out to be the Orcs that joined the Horde in TBC or later, I'd say stark majority. And even if it was slightly over 50% it wouldn't be Orcs getting decimated. Especially not in comparable scope to humans.

[Rhlor]

He literally said that the void elves are her people now - after their exile. The Telogrus blood elves followed the Ren'dorei of their own will and there's a chance they won't be allowed to go back to Silvermoon.

the point is that the blood elves in telogrus are her people, therefore the blood elves are the people of alleria

[Aucald]

Alleria has been out of the loop for decades (or a millennia depending on your perspective) - at this point, her "people" are essentially whoever she chooses them to be. The Sin'dorei have moved pretty far away from the people she was from, but the High Elves are also different, shaped by a number of redefining events she herself didn't experience. It may be that Alleria's own people are now the Ren'dorei and it's only to them she feels true allegiance. We won't really know for certain until Alleria herself speaks on the manner in "Before the Storm" or BfA itself.

[Arrashi]

Alleria has been out of the loop for decades (or a millennia depending on your perspective) - at this point, her "people" are essentially whoever she chooses them to be. The Sin'dorei have moved pretty far away from the people she was from, but the High Elves are also different, shaped by a number of redefining events she herself didn't experience. It may be that Alleria's own people are now the Ren'dorei and it's only to them she feels true allegiance. We won't really know for certain until Alleria herself speaks on the manner in "Before the Storm" or BfA itself.

Which is kinda hilarious given how she wants to "protect" silvermoon. Than again, its quite possible that void is already taking its toll on her and she is just deranged.

[Aucald]

Which is kinda hilarious given how she wants to "protect" silvermoon. Than again, its quite possible that void is already taking its toll on her and she is just deranged.

"Protect" Silvermoon in what context?

[Arrashi]

"Protect" Silvermoon in what context?

I have no idea. But void elves and their fans constantly mumble about it.

[Friendlyimmolation]

"Protect" Silvermoon in what context?

They can't be harmed if you kill them all.

[Toppy]

Alleria has been out of the loop for decades (or a millennia depending on your perspective) - at this point, her "people" are essentially whoever she chooses them to be. The Sin'dorei have moved pretty far away from the people she was from, but the High Elves are also different, shaped by a number of redefining events she herself didn't experience. It may be that Alleria's own people are now the Ren'dorei and it's only to them she feels true allegiance. We won't really know for certain until Alleria herself speaks on the manner in "Before the Storm" or BfA itself.

How have the sin'dorei moved from what they once were? Culturally they seem about the same, they just have different allies now.

[Aucald]

How have the sin'dorei moved from what they once were? Culturally they seem about the same, they just have different allies now.

The loss of the Sunwell, the diaspora to Outland, the corruption and fall of Kael'thas, the death of King Anasterian and end of the Sunstrider dynasty, the loss of an appreciable portion of their original population to the Scourge, their own internal civil war and the exile of the High Elven dissidents, the entirety of the Third War and its ramifications for all of Azeroth. Those are pretty significant events for a people and Alleria was MIA for all of them.

[Amaterasu65]

the point is that the blood elves in telogrus are her people, therefore the blood elves are the people of alleria

The blood elves of Telogrus were exiled from Silvermoon. So no, the blood elves of Silvermoon are not her people. Lor'themar even told her that Silvermoon is not her home. Please accept the facts.

[Ragnarocket]

the point is that the blood elves in telogrus are her people, therefore the blood elves are the people of alleria

They aren't, not anymore. There have been far too many large events that she's missed out on. It sucks for her but that's the way it is. These void elves are the closest thing she has to a group of people to "come home to" after so long away. The blood elves have gone through a lot that takes them in a path that is totally different from her own. All of the events Auculd mentioned are things that while she can be told about...she didn't have to experience.

[Friendlyimmolation]

Alleria better have some POV chapters in the new book, if we seriously get nothing my distaste for this “Alleria” will just keep growing.

[Rhlor]

The blood elves of Telogrus were exiled from Silvermoon. So no, the blood elves of Silvermoon are not her people. Lor'themar even told her that Silvermoon is not her home. Please accept the facts.

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They aren't, not anymore. There have been far too many large events that she's missed out on. It sucks for her but that's the way it is. These void elves are the closest thing she has to a group of people to "come home to" after so long away. The blood elves have gone through a lot that takes them in a path that is totally different from her own. All of the events Auculd mentioned are things that while she can be told about...she didn't have to experience.

Silvermoon Scholars are blood elves in telogrus

https://wow.gamepedia.com/Silvermoon_Scholar

blood elves are the people of alleria! she herself says that one day quelthalas will return to the alliance

[Amaterasu65]

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Silvermoon Scholars are blood elves in telogrus

https://wow.gamepedia.com/Silvermoon_Scholar

blood elves are the people of alleria! she herself says that one day quelthalas will return to the alliance

The blood elves as a race is not the reason they aren't her people. The reason is that they are not in the Alliance under Lor'themar's leadership. Thus Alleria and the void elves are enemies of the blood elves.