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    prot warrior dps gearing

    hey everyone,

    what is considered the best prot warrior dps single target setup?
    i am pretty sure the gloves and 2pc t21 are mandatory, but for everything else i am unsure.

    for gear i suppose setchest + cloak/shoulders are great. everything else can be high ilvl with haste/mastery.
    best damage trinkets are probably pantheons dps version + ? (maybe kil jaedens dps trinket for huge stats since most other legendaries don't offer great dps increases?) or we go legendary gloves + belt and get a huge stat stick like a chaos talisman 940+

    also is haste better for dps than mastery or is it actually a lot closer? i am strikly speaking damage and not survivability.

    lots of questions; yes i have checked warcraftlogs and i am not completely sold on most gearing choices, which just feel convenient (tanking) gearing to me and not trying to be optimal dps wise. there is a few ppl here and there utilizing netherlight ring but that is not an option since i only run defensive t2 crucibles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitaen View Post
    i am strikly speaking damage and not survivability.
    You...um....you wat m8?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitaen View Post
    hey everyone,

    what is considered the best prot warrior dps single target setup?
    i am pretty sure the gloves and 2pc t21 are mandatory, but for everything else i am unsure.

    for gear i suppose setchest + cloak/shoulders are great. everything else can be high ilvl with haste/mastery.
    best damage trinkets are probably pantheons dps version + ? (maybe kil jaedens dps trinket for huge stats since most other legendaries don't offer great dps increases?) or we go legendary gloves + belt and get a huge stat stick like a chaos talisman 940+

    also is haste better for dps than mastery or is it actually a lot closer? i am strikly speaking damage and not survivability.

    lots of questions; yes i have checked warcraftlogs and i am not completely sold on most gearing choices, which just feel convenient (tanking) gearing to me and not trying to be optimal dps wise. there is a few ppl here and there utilizing netherlight ring but that is not an option since i only run defensive t2 crucibles.
    What do you smoke? Can I have some?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceruion View Post
    You...um....you wat m8?
    HE WANTS TO GEAR TO DO MORE DAMAGE... HE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT SUUUUR-VIIIIVE-ABIIIIILLL-IIIITTTYYYYYY

    Hopefully you heard that.

    @OP
    Lego Gloves are good with Devastator, yes.

    You can sim yourself as Prot (DPS) to get stat weights but they will probably look like Haste > Crit for dps.
    Last edited by Carnedge; 2018-02-22 at 12:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carnedge View Post
    HE WANTS TO GEAR TO DO MORE DAMAGE... HE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT SUUUUR-VIIIIVE-ABIIIIILLL-IIIITTTYYYYYY

    Hopefully you heard that.

    @OP
    Lego Gloves are good with Devastator, yes.

    You can sim yourself as Prot (DPS) to get stat weights but they will probably look like Haste > Crit for dps.
    Thanks for clearing that up.

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    2pt21 > Gloves > bracers/belt > Haste >Mastery=Versatility > fork in the eye >>>> Crit

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    what exactely was so troll worthy 5 ppl need to reply like this?

    asking for dps prot gearing choices is not exactely a topic that has been discussed a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carnedge View Post
    HE WANTS TO GEAR TO DO MORE DAMAGE... HE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT SUUUUR-VIIIIVE-ABIIIIILLL-IIIITTTYYYYYY

    Hopefully you heard that.

    @OP
    Lego Gloves are good with Devastator, yes.

    You can sim yourself as Prot (DPS) to get stat weights but they will probably look like Haste > Crit for dps.
    For me simming with bracers instead of belt (belt is banked, doing transmog runs in SoO), all the stats are seemingly veeeeeeery close: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/repo...pkTFHLBdHXrYeU

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitaen View Post
    what exactely was so troll worthy 5 ppl need to reply like this?
    Your main post. It sounds stupid. Is poorely written. And asking basic information 3 minutes on google can find.

    And the whole MAH DAMAGGGEZZZZZ reeks of not fully finished teen.

    EDIT : And I forgot the classic "I don't believe logs" 101 stupid statement.
    Last edited by Ealyssa; 2018-02-22 at 02:55 PM.
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    nazi is not the abbreviation of national socialism....
    When googling 4 letters is asking too much fact-checking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toybox View Post
    For me simming with bracers instead of belt (belt is banked, doing transmog runs in SoO), all the stats are seemingly veeeeeeery close: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/repo...pkTFHLBdHXrYeU
    Individual results may vary.

    The amount and distribution of stats you currently have will influence stat weights.

    Legendaries will effect stat weights

    APL priority will effect stat weights.

    Talents will effect stat weights.

    That's why i recommend he sim himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ealyssa View Post
    Your main post. It sounds stupid. Is poorely written. And asking basic information 3 minutes on google can find.

    And the whole MAH DAMAGGGEZZZZZ reeks of not fully finished teen.

    EDIT : And I forgot the classic "I don't believe logs" 101 stupid statement.

    The replies to his simple question were far more stupid and unoriginal.

    What's the point of these forums if not to ask questions? Memes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ealyssa View Post
    Your main post. It sounds stupid. Is poorely written. And asking basic information 3 minutes on google can find.

    And the whole MAH DAMAGGGEZZZZZ reeks of not fully finished teen.

    EDIT : And I forgot the classic "I don't believe logs" 101 stupid statement.
    "mah damagezzz" is actually a viable choice since tanks are nigh to immortal after progress and dps gearing is the only thing left to do. i am 34y old btw.

    poorly written? what? i don't see any grammatical or syntax errors? basic information? well then enlighten me please, what setup would you run? i could not find any decent information on dps protection setups.

    "dont believe in logs" was never mentioned. i stated i think there is room for improvement since not all tanks have access to a lvl 1000 kaz gorgoths dps trinket or other dps choices probably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carnedge View Post
    Individual results may vary.

    The amount and distribution of stats you currently have will influence stat weights.

    Legendaries will effect stat weights

    APL priority will effect stat weights.

    Talents will effect stat weights.

    That's why i recommend he sim himself.
    Yup, 100%.

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    my setup for world pvp is haste above anything else, devastate, and just 2 piece of t21

    with manoroth legendary you barely need healing in a mythic/raid too

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    Doing sims yourself is always important but never underestimate the anal retentiveness of someone else. Sims are also not guaranteed to be 100% accurate in their coding especially with regards to tanking DPS. Tank DPS is not just dependent on gear but also what kind of opponent you're tanking.

    I can't think of any specific resource that's good for Prot DPS so I've been lazy about it personally. Presently, I use 2pT21/2pT20+Gloves+Belt+Arcanocrystal. I would like another strong Haste trinket to go with the AC. I do have a 995 Khaz'Goroths. It does proc off the target dummy but a raidmate once said that the proc chance is reduced for someone using a single 1H weapon ie its meant to bork tanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kitaen View Post
    poorly written? what?
    Proper capitalization is important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitaen View Post
    "mah damagezzz" is actually a viable choice since tanks are nigh to immortal after progress and dps gearing is the only thing left to do. i am 34y old btw.

    poorly written? what? i don't see any grammatical or syntax errors? basic information? well then enlighten me please, what setup would you run? i could not find any decent information on dps protection setups.

    "dont believe in logs" was never mentioned. i stated i think there is room for improvement since not all tanks have access to a lvl 1000 kaz gorgoths dps trinket or other dps choices probably.
    Let the bad ones do their thing.

    Legendaries apart from gloves dont seem to matter much, go with bracers for the survivability combo, i tried to belt multiple times, doesnt really change much cause you dont really get to use Thunder Clap a lot when you focus on DPS

    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/18021101

    If only i remembered to use pots/second pot more often.

    2pT21 -->Focus on basic haste which is mostly irrelevant after a point, frankly SS resets so many times and BC every 20 seconds makes it rather irrelevant compared to before, but you want it for the GCD so keeping haste at 26-30% helps a lot.

    Rest is the logical Mastery for AP and surivability with Versa for the raw dmg increase

    If you have a decent haste where your GCD feels smooth, aim for Strength/Versa tbh.
    Last edited by potis; 2018-02-22 at 06:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanstone View Post
    Doing sims yourself is always important but never underestimate the anal retentiveness of someone else. Sims are also not guaranteed to be 100% accurate in their coding especially with regards to tanking DPS. Tank DPS is not just dependent on gear but also what kind of opponent you're tanking.

    I can't think of any specific resource that's good for Prot DPS so I've been lazy about it personally. Presently, I use 2pT21/2pT20+Gloves+Belt+Arcanocrystal. I would like another strong Haste trinket to go with the AC. I do have a 995 Khaz'Goroths. It does proc off the target dummy but a raidmate once said that the proc chance is reduced for someone using a single 1H weapon ie its meant to bork tanks.



    Proper capitalization is important.

    yeah i know khaz goroths is reduced for tanks but i believe it's the best trinket by far if aiming for dps, the 2nd trinket is what's so challenging. i really tend to roll with KJ's (i do lack an 910+ arcano). the 2pt20 seems solid aswell but it gave me slightly less dps overall since my other gear parts are all 960+ and thus providing a large stats upgrade.

    than you for your input.

    ps: this is an internet forum for a video game and not a business email where i'd ever care for capitalization tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by potis View Post
    Let the bad ones do their thing.

    Legendaries apart from gloves dont seem to matter much, go with bracers for the survivability combo, i tried to belt multiple times, doesnt really change much cause you dont really get to use Thunder Clap a lot when you focus on DPS

    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/18021101

    If only i remembered to use pots/second pot more often.

    2pT21 -->Focus on basic haste which is mostly irrelevant after a point, frankly SS resets so many times and BC every 20 seconds makes it rather irrelevant compared to before, but you want it for the GCD so keeping haste at 26-30% helps a lot.

    Rest is the logical Mastery for AP and surivability with Versa for the raw dmg increase

    If you have a decent haste where your GCD feels smooth, aim for Strength/Versa tbh.
    thank you! i just looked through your logs, didn't realize 1,1m is already orange for prot on garothi. i am pulling 1,2m on the dummy solo without buffs/pots. guess i am fine anyway then.

    i am running 32% haste without overinvesting into it, i have good haste rolls on most of my gear. i'll try to put out some numbers next raid when i actually tank and not dps then

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    Imo, you should get angerboda+pantheon trinket for maximum DPS. For me, apart from gloves, next BiS DPS legendary is belt, which I always use.

    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/kazzak/orcaxe

    Gear for haste>master=vers>crit. Strive for dps traits on crucible and you are good to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitaen View Post
    thank you! i just looked through your logs, didn't realize 1,1m is already orange for prot on garothi. i am pulling 1,2m on the dummy solo without buffs/pots. guess i am fine anyway then.

    i am running 32% haste without overinvesting into it, i have good haste rolls on most of my gear. i'll try to put out some numbers next raid when i actually tank and not dps then
    Dont forget you run around like a retard on garothi most of the time

    And learn/try to delay BC if Demo is close, vice versa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Borcaxe View Post
    Imo, you should get angerboda+pantheon trinket for maximum DPS. For me, apart from gloves, next BiS DPS legendary is belt, which I always use.

    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/kazzak/orcaxe

    Gear for haste>master=vers>crit. Strive for dps traits on crucible and you are good to go.
    Pantheon apart from a strength stick doesnt do anything, like check your own logs, it does something like 1m/fight.

    A decent trinket with strength + some sort of use is better for DPS tbh, problem is to get one above 960 ilvl so it gives ~4k strength.
    Last edited by potis; 2018-02-23 at 12:49 PM.

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    Well, proc from pantheon blessing in antorus (group buff) is really nice and it gives you solid haste buff with good uptime (it is unrealible since its RNG, but it can be good for pure DPS). Also, it is ilvl 1000, so str gain from it is massive. So when you are in raid that overgear content, imo it can be really good for damage output.
    Last edited by Borcaxe; 2018-02-23 at 01:38 PM.

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