The Horde has 2 paladins.

[Every Pwny]

Horde has 6 shaman, alliance has 4 shaman
Alliance has 4 paladins horde has 2 paladins

The one that needs to be fixed though is horde having 4 druids and alliance only having 2

[Calfredd]

You stupid savages should be grateful the Light is loving enough to grace your undeserving asses with two paladins before you ask for more. You're also lucky enough it's loving enough to shine upon your only notable paladin after her weak-willed cunt ass turned her back on it once and would probably do it again.

Roleplayers should stick to RP forums and servers. Should I also remind you of the Scarlet Crusade who, despite torturing and kidnapping innocent civilians, were able to use the Light as well as the Silver Hand and Argent Dawn/Crusade?

[Oakshana]

The alliance now has 4 shaman. The hell is this?

Before you bring up druids, know that the Horde has Tauren and trolls added to the existing selection of Tauren and trolls, so nothing groundbreaking there. Kultiran humans are also going to be druids. where are our paladins?

I am so done with this idiocy. Firstly, you have zero proof yet that we WILL get Kul Tiran's, let alone that they'll get to be druids. Sure, it's possible... but there is no datamined evidence this is happening.

Second, shall we DO a count of shaman?

Alliance:
- Draenei
- Dwarf
- Pandaren

Horde:
- Orc
- Tauren
- Troll
- Goblin
- Pandaren
- Highmountain
- Zandalari
- Mag'har

See a trend here? Also, sure Horde got two new Druid races added to races that kind of exist. But Zandalari are getting some incredible goddamn models for ALL FIVE forms, as well as some very different travel forms for Highmountain. I am not gonna go call "horde favortism" here... but this petulant bullshit whining about only having two paladin races needs to stop. It's embarrassing and just stupid. Dark Irons do not have shaman listed as possible classes, and if Horde DOES get Vulpera, it's very probably they will have shaman among their classes.

Seriously. Knock this shit off.

[Futhark]

You know who would make great Horde Paladins? The original followers of Tyr: the Vrykul.

https://wow.gamepedia.com/Tyr

[frogger237]

Wait so you don't want to count druids but leave out the fact that Alliance has only 2 druids and 2 shamans???

Horde has more options in that respect, for the moment. Not to mention Vulpera and Maghar Orc.

I'm pretty sure they're waiting to release more class-race combos, since we've seen Night Elf paladins and whatnot.

Plus its funny that he doesn't want to count druids when Zandalari get 5 completely new forms.

[Kaibhan]

All races should be all the things. Lore 'reasons' bull spittle.

[Khirok]

You know who would make great Horde Paladins? The original followers of Tyr: the Vrykul.

https://wow.gamepedia.com/Tyr

Vrykul Should be Alliance. The faction deserves a good Allied race for once.

[ohwell]

Shaman.... Dwarf.... Dark Iron, maybe....

Think... think.... OH YEAH, Pandaren! Which are on both factions so I ignore them when counting classes.

You can argue that Zandalari Paladins should now be a thing in payoff for Dark Iron Shaman possibly being a thing, but we have threads for that already.

Lorewise that won't change unless they miraculously find a new source. The lore isn't changing before launch at this point and the only way Z pallies are happening is if they already have them made and just held them back as a "hey look" which is unlikely. About the only hope for another pally class is any unreleased race which is slim.

[Deleted]

Why exactly does it matter?

Do you really need an exact number of races able to be every class on both sides?

That's just absurd.

The exact number doesn't matter much, it's the lack of options that is a problem. Only having the choice between two races for one of the most popular classes in the game is bad. People *constantly* complain that there are too many Blood Elves in the Horde, yet they are the only race that can play Demon Hunters and one of only two that can play paladin. With how stupid Taurens look in most paladin armour and how silly the class/race combo is, Blood Elves still constitute the vast majority of Horde paladins.

[Yuelle]

I am so done with this idiocy. Firstly, you have zero proof yet that we WILL get Kul Tiran's, let alone that they'll get to be druids. Sure, it's possible... but there is no datamined evidence this is happening.

Second, shall we DO a count of shaman?

Alliance:
- Draenei
- Dwarf
- Pandaren

Horde:
- Orc
- Tauren
- Troll
- Goblin
- Pandaren
- Highmountain
- Zandalari
- Mag'har

See a trend here? Also, sure Horde got two new Druid races added to races that kind of exist. But Zandalari are getting some incredible goddamn models for ALL FIVE forms, as well as some very different travel forms for Highmountain. I am not gonna go call "horde favortism" here... but this petulant bullshit whining about only having two paladin races needs to stop. It's embarrassing and just stupid. Dark Irons do not have shaman listed as possible classes, and if Horde DOES get Vulpera, it's very probably they will have shaman among their classes.

Seriously. Knock this shit off.

Alliance Priests:
Human
Dwarf
Gnome
Worgen
Draenei
LF Draenei
DI Dwarf
Nelf
Velf
Pandaren

Horde Priests:
Undead
Belf
Troll
Z Troll
Goblin
Tauren
Nightborne
Pandaren

There's more than just shamans and paladins and druids out of parity. The alliance is dominated by priests and paladins and the horde is dominated by druids and shaman. However that doesn't mean a few paladins or priests can't be added to horde and a few more shamans or druids to alliance.

[Janysa]

Horde has 6 shaman, alliance has 4 shaman
Alliance has 4 paladins horde has 2 paladins

The one that needs to be fixed though is horde having 4 druids and alliance only having 2

So we can say: alliance needs 2 more droods and horde needs 2 more paladins? deal?
the lack of options is the only thing that matters here - i'm not interessted in even numbers. +3 droods alliance und +1 paladin horde is okay too.

[AbalDarkwind]

IF Dark Iron Dwarves get Shaman (Based on them having Shaman Totems), then Blizzard creating a lore reason for Zandalari not getting Paladins when they already had access to them makes absolutely no sense.

If DI Dwarves can't be Shaman while Zandalari can't be Paladins, then it'll be even sillier that Blizzard ignores that both races make sense for those classes just for some asinine nostalgic reason like "Remember when Shaman were Horde-only and Paladins were Alliance-only? Wasn't that cool?!"

It make sense, lore-wise, for DI Dwarves to be Shaman and Zandalari Trolls to be Paladins. Blizzard needs to stop twisting themselves into knots trying to make them not happen.

[ohwell]

Plus its funny that he doesn't want to count druids when Zandalari get 5 completely new forms.

..... so we're naming class benefits as a thing? Guess we should say Dark Iron get completely new totems. Yeah no druid forms don't make a druid stronger as an argument.

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IF Dark Iron Dwarves get Shaman (Based on them having Shaman Totems), then Blizzard creating a lore reason for Zandalari not getting Paladins when they already had access to them makes absolutely no sense.

If DI Dwarves can't be Shaman while Zandalari can't be Paladins, then it'll be even sillier that Blizzard ignores that both races make sense for those classes just for some asinine nostalgic reason like "Remember when Shaman were Horde-only and Paladins were Alliance-only? Wasn't that cool?!"

It make sense, lore-wise, for DI Dwarves to be Shaman and Zandalari Trolls to be Paladins. Blizzard needs to stop twisting themselves into knots trying to make them not happen.

I mean there's already files for DI Shaman so that's not even a point. Zandalari Pallies are shut out by Blizz lore.

[frogger237]

..... so we're naming class benefits as a thing? Guess we should say Dark Iron get completely new totems. Yeah no druid forms don't make a druid stronger as an argument.

Druid forms change your entire appearance which is what new races does. Totems are in now way comparable to a druid form.

[Drewbacca]

As others have said, "Who cares?" Balance is not needed in every aspect of the game, nor should it be.

[A Chozo]

It is not a competition anymore, dude.

[Stormcleave]

I'd like to see Orc and Undead Paladins. Undead Paladins could be called "The Redeemed". Undead Paladins could be a sub-sect that once followed Uther and died fighting the Lich King on the shores of Northrend. Good RP value and theme of redemption. Orc Paladins make sense. Orcs believe in virtue and honor and possess all the traits of knightly valor.

[FelPlague]

The alliance now has 4 shaman. The hell is this?

Before you bring up druids, know that the Horde has Tauren and trolls added to the existing selection of Tauren and trolls, so nothing groundbreaking there. Kultiran humans are also going to be druids. where are our paladins?

the horde also has 4 druids where the alliance only has 2.
sooo?
also as above

i dsont see your problem.

[Azelas]

and the alliance only has 2 druid races, what's your point.

[Deleted]

Why exactly does it need to be symmetrical. Do you gain something out of the opposite faction having less choice? I do agree that having only 2 options (or one option for demon hunters) is too little but it has nothing to do with the opposite faction.