PA-18 Election Thread: GOP Doubles Down on Identity Politics

[Gray_Matter]

What's the hold up? Mama bear needs sleeeeeeeep

Washington said that the count would take hours but it's already been quite a few. I think they have gone to sleep.

[Vanyali]

Wait a second here @Skroe, when did the US congress vote for Libya? European parliaments did and there was hell to pay for it, especially in France, but I don't recall Congress ever giving Obama the authority.

Which means that Libya was an illegal intervention.

The house voted on it, it didn't pass.

However, the actions within Libya fall into the same category as just about every war (major and minor) since WWII as far as presidential / congressional authority goes, so I'd be real careful with trying to nitpick what's "legal" and "illegal" use, given that even SCOTUS hasn't been able or willing to rule on it.

[Gray_Matter]

Thread warning: Get back on topic.

[Seiklis]

What's the hold up? Mama bear needs sleeeeeeeep

The second the Washington County Absentee votes are in this is done, barring a vote difference under 100.

If that were to happen, then Greene County would matter and those are counting in the morning.

[Skroe]

Wait a second here @Skroe, when did the US congress vote for Libya? European parliaments did and there was hell to pay for it, especially in France, but I don't recall Congress ever giving Obama the authority.

Which means that Libya was an illegal intervention.

And to just add to my post, because I somehow left it out.

There was no AUMF for Libya or ISIS. Or Yemen. Or the Horn of Africa. But Congress voted to fund it via the Oversees Contingency Operations budget, every year.

I'll never forget, the OCO budget, once upon a time called the "War on Terror" budget. Trump becomes President, it adopts it's new euphemism, which of course, allows it to expand wider than ever from a budgetary standpoint. To his credit, he tried to eliminate it and fold it into the defense budget, but he also tried to cut defense.

It's just insane and blatantly dishonest that Congress votes annually to fund something it does not vote to authorize, but allowed to authorized so nobody got their fingerprints on the hard vote.

[Gray_Matter]

The second Washington County Absentees are in this is done barring a vote difference under 100.

Where are you seeing that?

[PosPosPos]

Where are you seeing that?

Just mentally put a comma in between "done" and "barring" and you will see what @Seiklis meant.

Yeah, punctuation is important.

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And to just add to my post, because I somehow left it out.

There was no AUMF for Libya or ISIS. Or Yemen. Or the Horn of Africa. But Congress voted to fund it via the Oversees Contingency Operations budget, every year.

I'll never forget, the OCO budget, once upon a time called the "War on Terror" budget. Trump becomes President, it adopts it's new euphemism, which of course, allows it to expand wider than ever from a budgetary standpoint. To his credit, he tried to eliminate it and fold it into the defense budget, but he also tried to cut defense.

It's just insane and blatantly dishonest that Congress votes annually to fund something it does not vote to authorize, but allowed to authorized so nobody got their fingerprints on the hard vote.

*cough* mod warning 2 posts above you if you missed it, since you probably were writing this post as @Gray_Matter posted it.

[Skroe]

Just mentally put a comma in between "done" and "barring" and you will see what @Seiklis meant.

Yeah, punctuation is important.

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*cough* mod warning 2 posts above you if you missed it, since you probably were writing this post as @Gray_Matter posted it.

Yeah I just saw after posting.

[Seiklis]

Where are you seeing that?

Well Allegheny County absentees are in (That was the increase that took a 95 vote difference to 700), Westmoreland County counted their absentee votes in with their overall total so those are done.

So we're left with 1195 absentee votes out right now in Washington County (Steve Kornacki on MSNBChas been bringing the total up repeatedly) that are being counted right now. Hand count done, the ballots are being scanned right now apparently.

Saccone needs something like 70-30 on those to really catch up to Lamb but if he wins enough of them then the additional 200 absentee votes in Greene County could actually matter. Those are being counted in the morning.

Barring something odd, Washington County should be the end of this until the recount.

[PosPosPos]

Well Allegheny County absentees are in (That was the increase that took a 95 vote difference to 700), Westmoreland County counted their absentee votes in with their overall total so those are done.

So we're left with 1195 absentee votes out right now in Washington County (Steve Kornacki on MSNBChas been bringing the total up repeatedly) that are being counted right now.

Saccone needs something like 70-30 on those to really catch up much but if he wins enough then the additional 200 absentee votes in Greene County could actually matter. Those are being counted in the morning

Gray_Matter probably misinterpreted your post as either saying the results are cemented in stone, and/or that you have a source to the Washington vote counting.

[Seiklis]

Gray_Matter probably misinterpreted your post as either saying the results are cemented in stone, and/or that you have a source to the Washington vote counting.

It's late, we're all half crazy at this point

I certainly am

[Gray_Matter]

Well Allegheny County absentees are in (That was the increase that took a 95 vote difference to 700), Westmoreland County counted their absentee votes in with their overall total so those are done.

So we're left with 1195 absentee votes out right now in Washington County (Steve Kornacki on MSNBChas been bringing the total up repeatedly) that are being counted right now. Hand count done, the ballots are being scanned right now apparently.

Saccone needs something like 70-30 on those to really catch up to Lamb but if he wins enough of them then the additional 200 absentee votes in Greene County could actually matter. Those are being counted in the morning.

Barring something odd, Washington County should be the end of this until the recount.

Ahh. I didn't realize that Westmoreland has been counted already. It's done and dusted then because Saccone would need to over perform his election day results by something like 30% then.

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Gray_Matter probably misinterpreted your post as either saying the results are cemented in stone, and/or that you have a source to the Washington vote counting.

I read it as "The second Washington County Absentees are in, this is done barring a vote difference under 100.". It's late and I wasn't reading properly

[Jtbrig7390]

Polls are too close to call but it seems Lamp is claiming the win.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ion/ar-BBK9kI6

[Glnger]

I bet this has nothing to do with Republican governance and everything to do with "liberal media fakenews"

[Merkava]

Well Allegheny County absentees are in (That was the increase that took a 95 vote difference to 700), Westmoreland County counted their absentee votes in with their overall total so those are done.

So we're left with 1195 absentee votes out right now in Washington County (Steve Kornacki on MSNBChas been bringing the total up repeatedly) that are being counted right now. Hand count done, the ballots are being scanned right now apparently.

Saccone needs something like 70-30 on those to really catch up to Lamb but if he wins enough of them then the additional 200 absentee votes in Greene County could actually matter. Those are being counted in the morning.

Barring something odd, Washington County should be the end of this until the recount.

Kornacki is calling Lamb the apparent winner. His lead increased after Washington County absentee ballots came in, and theres not enough provisional and military ballots for Saccone to make up the difference.

[Glnger]

Kornacki is calling Lamb the apparent winner. His lead increased after Washington County absentee ballots came in, and theres not enough provisional and military ballots for Saccone to make up the difference.

sooooo. Will republicans change their politics, or double down on social bullshit and minorities????

That's not a serious question.

Functioning democracy here people.

[draynay]

sooooo. Will republicans change their politics, or double down on social bullshit and minorities????

That's not a serious question.

Next time they'll gerrymander it even harder!

[Glnger]

Next time they'll gerrymander it even harder!

that's why I added the "functioning democracy " bit.

can't win the popular vote? gerrymander and contest provisional ballets

At least Republicans learned from Al Gore not to concede early... there's no independent space to be made in today's politics by doing such an action,

[draynay]

They learned the lesson well, some of them don't ever concede.

[Glnger]

They learned the lesson well, some of them don't ever concede.

nope, they just beg their few supporters to pay their legal bills ;p