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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolthulhu View Post
    What am I supposed to do, express support for the rebels? That's to say for terrorists who use children as shields and weapons and who'd slaughter every last nonbeliever including opposing Muslim denominations.
    Condemn uses chemical warfare? Condemn Russia for colluding with the use of chemical warfare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dkwhyevernot View Post
    Condemn uses chemical warfare? Condemn Russia for colluding with the use of chemical warfare.
    That's assuming it was Assad and not the rebels. It might've been the rebels. Shall we condemn them all? Also, is it morally worse to use chemical weapons against mixed targets, or to kill exclusively civilian targets with conventional weapons? These things are not black and white.

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    Condemn uses chemical warfare? Condemn Russia for colluding with the use of chemical warfare.
    On what grounds? Because crazy jihadists (sorry, I meant moderate rebels) say so? Because mouthpiece from UK (sorry, I meant Syrian Observatory...) working for both UK government and jihadists said so?

    But of course, believe fairy tale that rebels are all good and innocent, that they cannot be possibly ones doing all those attacks with support from US, its all Asaad's fault.

  4. #44
    I thought the US would go in and fix this if gas was used. Not happening, is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Except no one else but you and your conspiracy buddies even brought Russia into the discussion.
    Go buy a new monocle, then go read the link in OP.

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    State news media in Syria denied that government forces had used chemical weapons and accused the rebel group that controls Douma, the Army of Islam, of fabricating the videos to solicit international support as defeat loomed.

    The Russian Defense Ministry also denied that chemical weapons had been used.

    It was not possible to independently verify the reports because Douma is surrounded by the Syrian government, which prevents access by journalists, aid workers and investigators
    Observation: Funny, that the attack that both the Russians and the Syrians are denying occurred is supposed to have occurred in a location that is basically surrounded by the Syrian government. Guess if you can't prove it, it never happened, right? Going to be right awkward if the independent investigators get in there and find out you were lying to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venant View Post
    Wow, it sure would be convenient for people who want a military intervention in Syria if Assad was to do something totally insane and unnecessary like using chemical weapons just before US troops are to start withdrawing from the area.
    .... for the second time, the first time being known to be done by the rebels

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    2002/2003 Lefties: Bush is an aggressor. Saddam doesn't even have chemical weapons. Why are we invading? This is a war crime! We just want the oil!

    2017/2018 Lefties: Trump is a pansy who is afraid of war. Assad is gassing his own people! Why aren't we invading? Assad is committing war crimes and the only way to respond is to burn people alive with napalm (because it's more humane than killing them with poison!)!!!!!11111

    That about sums it up. If it wasn't for double standards...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dkwhyevernot View Post
    Condemn uses chemical warfare? Condemn Russia for colluding with the use of chemical warfare.
    Question: What is Putin doing that Europeans fear so much? What is so bad about Putin?

    The U.K. now locks people up for jokes. For jokes. AND bans political dissidents like Britney Pettibone, Martin Selner, and Lauren Southern.

    "But I don't LIKE those people, they're Neo-Nazis!"

    So you admit that in your mind it's okay to persecute people for their political beliefs because you don't like them?

    Again... WHAT IS SO BAD ABOUT PUTIN COMPARED TO WHAT YOU ARE ALREADY DOING IN YOUR OWN COUNTRIES FOR FUCK'S SAKE???

  10. #50
    I don't get it, what are you talking about? It's all over the news.



    On the front page of BBC, Reuters... what news are you watching?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toxsins View Post
    2002/2003 Lefties: Bush is an aggressor. Saddam doesn't even have chemical weapons. Why are we invading? This is a war crime! We just want the oil!

    2017/2018 Lefties: Trump is a pansy who is afraid of war. Assad is gassing his own people! Why aren't we invading? Assad is committing war crimes and the only way to respond is to burn people alive with napalm (because it's more humane than killing them with poison!)!!!!!11111

    That about sums it up. If it wasn't for double standards...
    OMG you totally caught those lefties in a blatant hypocrisy, because obviously there's no difference between chemical weapons that don't exist and real ones being used on civilians!

    You should start a Youtube channel with that level of well thought-out argument.

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    Mmmm, condemnation followed by action in the Security Council that Russia vetoes because we're all just ASSUMING it was Assad, I mean, pshaw, those Syrians might've just gotten really bad food poisoning.
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    It is a fact, not just something I made up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toxsins View Post
    2002/2003 Lefties: Bush is an aggressor. Saddam doesn't even have chemical weapons. Why are we invading? This is a war crime! We just want the oil!

    2017/2018 Lefties: Trump is a pansy who is afraid of war. Assad is gassing his own people! Why aren't we invading? Assad is committing war crimes and the only way to respond is to burn people alive with napalm (because it's more humane than killing them with poison!)!!!!!11111

    That about sums it up. If it wasn't for double standards...
    This is because the Overton window is shifting, and I personally don't mind. Now when I'm at liberal cocktail parties I can be introduced as "a conservative, but not one of those that wants to hang women." I just want to hang murderous dictators, and now that's perfectly acceptable.
    Populists (and "national socialists") look at the supposedly secret deals that run the world "behind the scenes". Child's play. Except that childishness is sinister in adults.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toxsins View Post
    2002/2003 Lefties: Bush is an aggressor. Saddam doesn't even have chemical weapons. Why are we invading? This is a war crime! We just want the oil!

    2017/2018 Lefties: Trump is a pansy who is afraid of war. Assad is gassing his own people! Why aren't we invading? Assad is committing war crimes and the only way to respond is to burn people alive with napalm (because it's more humane than killing them with poison!)!!!!!11111

    That about sums it up. If it wasn't for double standards...
    It's funny, because this is exactly how I feel about it now. Growing up the Iraq war was the greatest travesty, and it's one that we're still grappling with. Everyone, including myself, was furious at the destruction based on nothing but conjecture and unreliable evidence.

    And, somehow, we're back here again but the tables feel switched. Nobody actually HAS evidence that Syria was the entity responsible for the gas attacks, and frankly, the opposition has a lot more to gain out of a "chemical attack" than Syria itself.

    This is also on top of the fact that Syria is a US-Russian proxy war anyway... and before I get flagged as a "conspiracy theorist" it's all front page news. Syria has historically been a Russian ally, and the US has been open about supplying insurgents. Even if it didn't begin as a proxy war, it sure as heck became one in the end.

  13. #53
    This is all propaganda. If there was a gas attack it was done by the rebels to blame assad and to enrage trumptard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venant View Post
    Wow, it sure would be convenient for people who want a military intervention in Syria if Assad was to do something totally insane and unnecessary like using chemical weapons just before US troops are to start withdrawing from the area.
    Yeah. That was my first thought too. It seems like a really dumb move for Assad, but a perfect excuse for a war for the US. Trumpy is already frothing away on twitter talking about red lines. I'm sure his advisers are whispering in his ear about how attacking Assad will prove to everyone how big his "Button" is.

    Remember when all his supporters were saying how he would not be a hawk like Hillary, and how he'd stop all these random foreign interventions?
    Impeach the MF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venant View Post
    Wow, it sure would be convenient for people who want a military intervention in Syria if Assad was to do something totally insane and unnecessary like using chemical weapons just before US troops are to start withdrawing from the area.
    From Assad’s point of view America looks weak. He doesn’t think we will do anything about this, and he may be right. Ultimately Assad has used chemical weapons before and has had basically no consequences. He has stooped this low before, it’s not surprising that he has done so again.

  16. #56
    I honestly have my doubts that Assad is attacking his own people, and it's other countries framing him with their own motives. Wouldn't put it past the US Government to be behind it, judging by the systematic attack of leaders around the ME region.
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    I honestly have my doubts that Assad is attacking his own people, and it's other countries framing him with their own motives. Wouldn't put it past the US Government to be behind it, judging by the systematic attack of leaders around the ME region.
    Yes, its much more likely this was a false flag, lol.
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  18. #58
    You need some sort of aircraft to carry out an attack of this type so various rebel groups are out of the question. According to multiple sources, SAA commander Suheil al-Hassan gave his army green light to use "all kinds of weapons" in Douma.


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    We need to destroy everything above ground level Assad owns and try and take him out directly. Russia gets a 30 minute heads up like last time. Bomb the s400 laumchers too.

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    The amount of paranoid delusion reggrding false flags in this thread is astonishing. Seriously. Get medicated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    We need to destroy everything above ground level Assad owns and try and take him out directly. Russia gets a 30 minute heads up like last time. Bomb the s400 laumchers too.

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    The amount of paranoid delusion reggrding false flags in this thread is astonishing. Seriously. Get medicated.
    and then who takes power in syria?

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