Syria Sarin Gas Attack - 100+ Casualties

[Skroe]

and then who takes power in syria?

Who cares.

No seriously. Who cares. How would it possibly be worse? The US has showed its capacity to "mow the grass", as the Israelis put it, with its ISIS campaign. 65,000 dead ISIS fighters according to US estimates. Its territory shrunk to nothing.

If whatever follows assad is a threat to US or US interests, we mow the grass. We can keep a lid on it. Inexpensively. Forever.

Kill every single government official working for Assad. Destroy every ministry. Demolish every airfield. Destroy everything Russia has given them. Order the Russians out of the country. Trump set a Red Line last year. He must follow through now.

If he doesn't at the minimum what I said above, he's as big as a fraud as I've been saying for 2 years.

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Assad and Putin, by doing this today, are making a direct mockery of American power. That is its intent. "Look at what we can do".

The only proportional response is the largest American bombing campaign in 50 years. Not cruise strikes. Heavy bombers. The kind of shit that makes Europe's liberals moan about "proportionality" and other quaint/obsolete 1990s concepts.

[Ripster42]

80% of the people who inhaled sarin gas die within days. Why are we talking about Skripal case when this is happening in Syria on a large scale? Mass media not interested?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-m...-idUSKBN1HE0RR

Complains about mass media not being interested, links mass media site reporting on it. What's your goal here?

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.... for the second time, the first time being known to be done by the rebels

There have been multiple chemical attacks before this. One was declared to be from ISIL (conclusion on page 9), one from Assad (conclusion on page 10), by the UN.

[Theodarzna]

Wow, it sure would be convenient for people who want a military intervention in Syria if Assad was to do something totally insane and unnecessary like using chemical weapons just before US troops are to start withdrawing from the area.

Gee, It really makes ya think. Really gets the old noggin' joggin. Really activates the ol' Almonds.

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Who cares.

No seriously. Who cares. How would it possibly be worse? The US has showed its capacity to "mow the grass", as the Israelis put it, with its ISIS campaign. 65,000 dead ISIS fighters according to US estimates. Its territory shrunk to nothing.

If whatever follows assad is a threat to US or US interests, we mow the grass. We can keep a lid on it. Inexpensively. Forever.

Kill every single government official working for Assad. Destroy every ministry. Demolish every airfield. Destroy everything Russia has given them. Order the Russians out of the country. Trump set a Red Line last year. He must follow through now.

If he doesn't at the minimum what I said above, he's as big as a fraud as I've been saying for 2 years.

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Assad and Putin, by doing this today, are making a direct mockery of American power. That is its intent. "Look at what we can do".

The only proportional response is the largest American bombing campaign in 50 years. Not cruise strikes. Heavy bombers. The kind of shit that makes Europe's liberals moan about "proportionality" and other quaint/obsolete 1990s concepts.

So its not the gassing of civilians that bothers you its the 'mocking of American power'. And you want to kill lots of people and turn Syria into a more hellish Libya creating the conditions for a more radical version of Islamic State to reemerge, all because of a percieved weakness of America.

Who cares? What a fucking take. Why don't you just advocate nukes. Avocating forever wars is possible the stupidest thing ive heard.

What needs to happen is the war needs to end.

We have to stomach Assad for now and deal with him later. Russia haven't stated that his premiership is essential for a later peace deal and its quite clear that they want to talk, they have no desire for a confrontation with the states and Assad isnt essential for thier later ambitions in Syria. Let the civil war end, stomach the horror, and make sure he finds his way to the hague were so many other war criminals have avoided to only be 'judged by history' by offering the Russians a political solution in which they can give him up.

Currently the best way to help Syrian people is victory for Assad, not transition to unknown barbarous 'moderates'.

[Theodarzna]

The amount of paranoid delusion regarding false flags in this thread is astonishing. Seriously. Get medicated.

Right, paranoid, its not as if America would blame the Maine on Spain or do anything like this before. XD

[Venant]

So its not the gassing of civilians that bothers you its the 'mocking of American power'. And you want to kill lots of people and turn Syria into a more hellish Libya creating the conditions for a more radical version of Islamic State to reemerge, all because of a percieved weakness of America.

Who cares? What a fucking take. Why don't you just advocate nukes. Avocating forever wars is possible the stupidest thing ive heard.

What needs to happen is the war needs to end.

We have to stomach Assad for now and deal with him later. Russia haven't stated that his premiership is essential for a later peace deal and its quite clear that they want to talk, they have no desire for a confrontation with the states and Assad isnt essential for thier later ambitions in Syria. Let the civil war end, stomach the horror, and make sure he finds his way to the hague were so many other war criminals have avoided to only be 'judged by history' by offering the Russians a political solution in which they can give him up.

Currently the best way to help Syrian people is victory for Assad, not transition to unknown barbarous 'moderates'.

I think you have fallen into the narrative trap of the corporate media, namely that there is a 'civil war' in Syria. What is happening in Syria is like what happened in Libya, foreign terrorists funded by foreign interests invaded the country and started this conflict. The government is literally fighting against an army of foreign backed terrorists. The whole 'moderate rebels' narrative is a complete lie, pushed by people who want a war.

[Orange Joe]

2002/2003 Lefties: Bush is an aggressor. Saddam doesn't even have chemical weapons. Why are we invading? This is a war crime! We just want the oil!

2017/2018 Lefties: Trump is a pansy who is afraid of war. Assad is gassing his own people! Why aren't we invading? Assad is committing war crimes and the only way to respond is to burn people alive with napalm (because it's more humane than killing them with poison!)!!!!!11111

That about sums it up. If it wasn't for double standards...

As a "leftie" myself

2002/3 I supported bush going to war, just didn't like how long we ended up being there and how we left.

2017/18 After seeing what we did in Iraq and Afghanistan, I no longer support any war of this type, but have no problem pointing out Trumps hypocrisy and lies.



So you couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

[matt4pack]

Oh look at all the war hawks coming out all of a sudden.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

We need to destroy everything above ground level Assad owns and try and take him out directly. Russia gets a 30 minute heads up like last time. Bomb the s400 laumchers too.

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The amount of paranoid delusion reggrding false flags in this thread is astonishing. Seriously. Get medicated.

Do you think that would kill less citizens?

[kostas83]

TBH america should respond by dropping chemical bombs on Asaad loyalist regions.
Since the line in the sand for chemical warfare was crossed and nobody on earth responded, its time to fight fire with fire again, or in this case wildly inhumane poison with wildly inhumane poison.

Simply tell them firmly you do it, we do it to, and after asaad's own loyalists are freaking out the line might be redrawn.
My two cents.

And we should drop bombs at New York for example, to punish US for slaughtering 800 000 civilians in Iraque, 2mil in Vietnam, and so on, list continue...
Now you will say " killing civilians with bombs is fine but it's not fine with gas" , let me tell you, now-days bombs can make much more damage then gas, gas is just pointless to use ...this is obviously scheme done by US military to change Tramps mind from withdrawing from Syria, because US doesn't benefit from withdrawing , i mean, Syria is full with gas and oil after all...

[CostinR]

Who cares.

No seriously. Who cares. How would it possibly be worse? The US has showed its capacity to "mow the grass", as the Israelis put it, with its ISIS campaign. 65,000 dead ISIS fighters according to US estimates. Its territory shrunk to nothing.

If whatever follows assad is a threat to US or US interests, we mow the grass. We can keep a lid on it. Inexpensively. Forever.

Kill every single government official working for Assad. Destroy every ministry. Demolish every airfield. Destroy everything Russia has given them. Order the Russians out of the country. Trump set a Red Line last year. He must follow through now.

If he doesn't at the minimum what I said above, he's as big as a fraud as I've been saying for 2 years.

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Assad and Putin, by doing this today, are making a direct mockery of American power. That is its intent. "Look at what we can do".

The only proportional response is the largest American bombing campaign in 50 years. Not cruise strikes. Heavy bombers. The kind of shit that makes Europe's liberals moan about "proportionality" and other quaint/obsolete 1990s concepts.

I think if Trump even tried to suggest what you just did they'd go ballistic. Mind you I am not saying I am opposed: The world needs to learn that when the US threatens to blow your head off for using chemical weapons in violating of a treaty that virtually every country on this planet follows that they will actually follow through with that threat.

China is watching, North Korea is watching, Russia is watching. Trump gave Assad every chance he had to take and Assad at every turn has pushed for more.

Realistically I expect all of Assad's major military airfields to be on the receiving end of Tomahawk cruise missiles and B-2 Strategic Bombers.

Currently the best way to help Syrian people is victory for Assad, not transition to unknown barbarous 'moderates'.

Certainly, but Assad needs to understand he doesn't get away with something like this. No nation can be allowed to just use chemical weapons whenever they want without a significant response.

[downnola]

I think you have fallen into the narrative trap of the corporate media, namely that there is a 'civil war' in Syria. What is happening in Syria is like what happened in Libya, foreign terrorists funded by foreign interests invaded the country and started this conflict. The government is literally fighting against an army of foreign backed terrorists. The whole 'moderate rebels' narrative is a complete lie, pushed by people who want a war.

You've fallen into a narrative trap he says, as he posts a video of a known RT propaganda peddling "journo" who's regurgitating the Assad regime's narrative. I wonder who'd benefit from pushing a plausible deniability narrative every time "Mr. Secular" drops chemical weapons on innocent civilians.

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You've fallen into a narrative trap he says, as he posts a video of a known RT propaganda peddling "journo" who's regurgitating the Assad regime's narrative. I wonder who'd benefit from pushing a plausible deniability narrative every time "Mr. Secular" drops chemical weapons on innocent civilians.

Have you looked in mirror lately? Because that's where you can find brainwashed person who has fallen into propaganda, dismissing any other points of view and seeing Russian plots everywhere.

She's right. Western media has no boots on ground, they rely on reports from terrorists, bloke sitting in UK and white helmets mercs. Western media is heavily pushing pro-terrorist agenda and not to be trusted.

[BreathTaker]

... The world needs to learn that when the US threatens ...

The US needs to learn it cannot just threaten everyone, it has not been given a right to do so.
Liars, murderers.

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Note that now : Syrian government says rebels agree to surrender last eastern Ghouta town held by them and hand over prisoners

Ghouta is a sign showing the regimes enemies what it will do and a message for the eventual move on to Idlib.

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The amount of paranoid delusion reggrding false flags in this thread is astonishing. Seriously. Get medicated.

Why in gods name would Assad use CW's?
He is by any and all measures completely and totally winning - Resistance is literally months away from collapsing.

[Skandulous]

Note that now : Syrian government says rebels agree to surrender last eastern Ghouta town held by them and hand over prisoners

Ghouta is a sign showing the regimes enemies what it will do and a message for the eventual move on to Idlib.

100 buses have entered Duma to evacuate the fighters and their families. The rebels also released all prisoners and captives back to the govt.



https://twitter.com/Dannymakkisyria/...47320043446272

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Who cares.

No seriously. Who cares.

I care - The EU cares.

If whatever follows assad is a threat to US or US interests, we mow the grass. We can keep a lid on it. Inexpensively. Forever.

So for a tactical victory in a theater that does not matter, you will inflict harm to your strategic allies?

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Note that now : Syrian government says rebels agree to surrender last eastern Ghouta town held by them and hand over prisoners

Ghouta is a sign showing the regimes enemies what it will do and a message for the eventual move on to Idlib.

I'm guessing your thesis is that this is due to the CW's - The problem is that Bombs are cheap enough that the Syrian Air-force could level a few villages (and have done so) and the same message would be sent.

[downnola]

Have you looked in mirror lately? Because that's where you can find brainwashed person who has fallen into propaganda, dismissing any other points of view and seeing Russian plots everywhere.

She's right. Western media has no boots on ground, they rely on reports from terrorists, bloke sitting in UK and white helmets mercs. Western media is heavily pushing pro-terrorist agenda and not to be trusted.

You'd think it'd be embarrassing to claim Western Media is pushing an agenda and trying to brainwash everyone, when all of your talking points originate from Russian government backed media. What were you saying about a mirror?

[Theodarzna]

I care - The EU cares.


So for a tactical victory in a theater that does not matter, you will inflict harm to your strategic allies?

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I'm guessing your thesis is that this is due to the CW's - The problem is that Bombs are cheap enough that the Syrian Air-force could level a few villages (and have done so) and the same message would be sent.

A small price to pay for Raytheons stock value to increase...

/s