Chronicle 3 how many continents pre sundering?

[anaxie]

G'huun, the blood trolls, Zandalari culture, Kul Tiran culture, Drust, Vulpera and Sethrak appeared from thin air. Zandalar and Kul Tiras look nothing like they looked in the previous Chronicles. But of course there are no new lands, everyone knew the well established Stormsong Valley, Nazmir, Drustvar and Vol'dun!

Blizzard can make up what they want and they will keep doing that for at least a few years.

G'huun and blood trolls are new but they are supported by WHOM.

Prophet Zul on the Isle of Zandalar.

Zul is biting the dust and G'huun is dying during the content hes introduced in. As is everything else you listed.

Whats important in BFA is
Zandalar, Kul'Tiras, Prophet Zul, Azshara, N'zoth.

Guess whats all used up at the end of BFA along with the little tiny stories they add and wrap up?

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Blizzard already said that they can come up with new continents with ease. Doesn't matter what is written in Chroncile 3. They can easily retcon it and sell you new chronicle books in five years to make more money.

Except they don't come up with new lands THey use prior established places time and time again.

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Blizzard already said that they can come up with new continents with ease. Doesn't matter what is written in Chroncile 3. They can easily retcon it and sell you new chronicle books in five years to make more money.

The chronicles are made to be permanent lore not retcons. Name a single thing from chronicles thats been retconned so I can point out your poor comprehention of the material.

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It's funny how the people in charge of writing the history of a game can rewrite the history of the game, isn't it?

When have they?

The reality is POST BFA

Every location is finally used up.
Every villan ever introduced into the franchis will now be dead.

Whats replaced locations and Villans? None. Whos underlings are we fighting now? Void Aligned.
Whats the End of Warcraft? The Void confrontation.

connect the dots.

[Schattenlied]

A 100 years fast foward considering wc1 to now has been maybe 40 years wouldnt be warcraft anymore. It qould be some random ass game reboot

No, it would be Warcraft because it's still set in the same world in the same universe... Do you not understand how IPs work? The advancement of time doesn't make it a new IP.

[anaxie]

No, it would be Warcraft because it's still set in the same world in the same universe... Do you not understand how IPs work? The advancement of time doesn't make it a new IP.

Please Warcrafts entire populaity is based of its heroes and Villan cast.

Both are emptied out and a 100 year gap would be a bunch of nameless characters.

Why play then? Grindfest MMO with a Warcraft skin at that point. Not gonna happen anyhow so i wont comment further.

[Schattenlied]

Please Warcrafts entire populaity is based of its heroes and Villan cast.

Both are emptied out and a 100 year gap would be a bunch of nameless characters.

Why play then? Grindfest MMO with a Warcraft skin at that point. Not gonna happen anyhow so i wont comment further.

You do realize that the original warcraft gained it's popularity without "heroes and villians" cast to lean on, right? Never mind that many of the people in warcraft live for thousands of years and will still be around in a hundred.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

You do realize that the original warcraft gained it's popularity without "heroes and villians" cast to lean on, right? Never mind that many of the people in warcraft live for thousands of years and will still be around in a hundred.

He isn't going to listen, he's so set and being very stubborn. As you said, Blizzard can continue the franchise for as long as possible.

[frogger237]

The chronicles are everything.

First off they have stated that just because something isn't in the chronicles doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And even if they really did say there was only one landmass originally that doesn't mean any couldn't have been created during the sundering or cataclysm. Fuck they could even come up with some crazy shit like an artifact that removes all the ocean from a certain area so anyone inside would seem to be a land surrounded by massive walls of water.

Also Chronicles 3 says Ahn'Qiraj is to the east of Tanaris. Thats flat out wrong. It has other mistakes as well, the only landmass line could be one of them as well.

Plus the chronicle books have several contradictions between them, they could easily decide in chronicle 15 that shit in chronicle 3 is wrong.

[bmjclark]

Let's be real here. Chronicles is just the latest in a long line of books that's going to get retconned.

[Soeroah]

"Originally only had one continent" doesn't mean much, though. Even in real life we have new landmasses rising out of the sea and disappearing under each other over time. We don't know when the Titans ordered Azeroth, but it's entirely possible - especially during the Cataclysm, considering it pushed Kul Tiras further out to see - that new continents could have been formed in parts of Azeroth we haven't seen before.

Not to mention the Tomb of Sargeras has been buried and brought out of the ocean multiple times. If they really wanted they could do similar with a new continent/landmass, or even a Timeless Isle style thing with a new time-displaced continent, and tie the Timeless Isle into it as part of an experiment the people of said continent once performed to test their ability to hide in time.

[anaxie]

You do realize that the original warcraft gained it's popularity without "heroes and villians" cast to lean on, right? Never mind that many of the people in warcraft live for thousands of years and will still be around in a hundred.

Why was Burning Crusade popular? Illidan and his crew and the burning Legion

Why was WotlK popular? Arthas

Why was WoD initially popular: The Old Horde Brigade

Why was Legion Popular? Burning Legion is back baby! and Illidan.

remove everyone and just throw no names. Make the prime villan of Wotlk be Loken and no Scourge.
Game would sink guarantee.

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"Originally only had one continent" doesn't mean much, though. Even in real life we have new landmasses rising out of the sea and disappearing under each other over time. We don't know when the Titans ordered Azeroth, but it's entirely possible - especially during the Cataclysm, considering it pushed Kul Tiras further out to see - that new continents could have been formed in parts of Azeroth we haven't seen before.

Not to mention the Tomb of Sargeras has been buried and brought out of the ocean multiple times. If they really wanted they could do similar with a new continent/landmass, or even a Timeless Isle style thing with a new time-displaced continent, and tie the Timeless Isle into it as part of an experiment the people of said continent once performed to test their ability to hide in time.

The Chronicle isnt written by the denezins of Azeroth. It's a word of god book.

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Let's be real here. Chronicles is just the latest in a long line of books that's going to get retconned.

Well better happen soon because the game is going towards its ultimate finale soon.

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First off they have stated that just because something isn't in the chronicles doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And even if they really did say there was only one landmass originally that doesn't mean any couldn't have been created during the sundering or cataclysm. Fuck they could even come up with some crazy shit like an artifact that removes all the ocean from a certain area so anyone inside would seem to be a land surrounded by massive walls of water.

Also Chronicles 3 says Ahn'Qiraj is to the east of Tanaris. Thats flat out wrong. It has other mistakes as well, the only landmass line could be one of them as well.

Plus the chronicle books have several contradictions between them, they could easily decide in chronicle 15 that shit in chronicle 3 is wrong.

everything of Note is in the Chronicles

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He isn't going to listen, he's so set and being very stubborn. As you said, Blizzard can continue the franchise for as long as possible.

and drag it through the mud into obscurity.

Like Mass effect Andromeda!

[Wildberry]

remove everyone and just throw no names. Make the prime villan of Wotlk be Loken and no Scourge.
Game would sink guarantee.

No names like void lords? I agree.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

and drag it through the mud into obscurity.

Like Mass effect Andromeda!

Blizzard isn't EA and that game wasn't nearly as bad as the internet claimed it to be.

[frogger237]

everything of Note is in the Chronicles

Like I have said, Blizzard has already said that just because something isn't in chronicles doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And we already know 3 has several errors in it already.

[anaxie]

No names like void lords? I agree.

The Void Lords are interconnected with the Old Gods and every single faction that has ever fought in their name.

Void Lords and the Void has been present since TBC. anoteable Void Lord is Dimensius the All Devouring and the Ethereals are going to get a huge role when that conflict comes full circle if any of the recent buildup has been any indication.

As it stands, Fighting Deathwing, Ragnaros, Old Gods, Faceless, Ethereals, Azshara, Zul all under the guidence of the Void lords or more then likely a Prime Void Lord is no different then Sargeras being the figurehead of Eredar like KJ and Archimonde, Nathrezim like Tichondrius and Balnazzar, Pitlords: Magtheridon, Azgalor, Mannoroth, Shivirra , Doom Lords, Imps ect.

[Dimmak]

Well there may only be one continent at the time of the sundering, those moving continents will put tectonic force on the plates on the other side. They will push and slide over each other, so it is very likely there is another continent that is less than 10,000 years old. It might not have any sentient beings that we are use to, but perhaps it has been overrun by Naga and their ilk.

[anaxie]

Like I have said, Blizzard has already said that just because something isn't in chronicles doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And we already know 3 has several errors in it already.

Errors, Not retcons

Name a retcon

[Soeroah]

The Chronicle isnt written by the denezins of Azeroth. It's a word of god book.

I'm... aware, but that doesn't contradict what I said in any way, in the slightest.

Word of god can say "originally there was one continent" without it being a contradiction that three hundred thousand years later there are more landmasses besides the ones made up of the original continent. It's evolution.

What are the exact words you're referring to here? Not your interpretation of them; what is the exact quote from Chronicle 3 you're talking about?

[anaxie]

Well there may only be one continent at the time of the sundering, those moving continents will put tectonic force on the plates on the other side. They will push and slide over each other, so it is very likely there is another continent that is less than 10,000 years old. It might not have any sentient beings that we are use to, but perhaps it has been overrun by Naga and their ilk.

the edges of Pangea Kalimdor are already the 4 corners of azeroth. Everything else are the major islands, The no name generated Islands in BFA or they are sunken under the Sea and won't be explored. Nazjatar and perhaps Nyolotha are going to be the pinnacle of what lies beneth the waves content.

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I'm... aware, but that doesn't contradict what I said in any way, in the slightest.

Word of god can say "originally there was one continent" without it being a contradiction that three hundred thousand years later there are more landmasses besides the ones made up of the original continent. It's evolution.

What are the exact words you're referring to here? Not your interpretation of them; what is the exact quote from Chronicle 3 you're talking about?

Your opinon would hold weight if Chronciles VOl 3 didnt have SEVERAL maps of the entire planet.

Everything that is there is laid out before you.

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Blizzard isn't EA and that game wasn't nearly as bad as the internet claimed it to be.

it was so bad the own Developer and Publisher gave up on it and canceled all planned DLC and the trilogy and shut the studio down.

Tell me how not bad it was again?

[Wildberry]

The Void Lords are interconnected with the Old Gods and every single faction that has ever fought in their name.

And they were retconned into existence with the release of the first Chronicle book.

Void Lords and the Void has been present since TBC. anoteable Void Lord is Dimensius the All Devouring and the Ethereals are going to get a huge role when that conflict comes full circle if any of the recent buildup has been any indication.

Dimensius was a pre-Chronicle Void Lord (ie, not part of the merry band that spooked Sargeras). Xal'atath describes Dimensius as being just a "manifestation," or "fragments, shadows, the faintest of echoes" of the Void Lords.

More importantly, Ethereals suck. Everyone knows this. Chris Metzen even acknowledged this when he noted that most people felt that "fantasy" was killing Kobolds, not travelling around to different planets.

[anaxie]

And they were retconned into existence with the release of the first Chronicle book.


Dimensius was a pre-Chronicle Void Lord (ie, not part of the merry band that spooked Sargeras). Xal'atath describes Dimensius as being just a "manifestation," or "fragments, shadows, the faintest of echoes" of the Void Lords.

More importantly, Ethereals suck. Everyone knows this. Chris Metzen even acknowledged this when he noted that most people felt that "fantasy" was killing Kobolds, not travelling around to different planets.

The Void lords would hold no significance in their creation if their entire backstory wasnt linked to the Old Gods and everyone who ever fought in their name.

Thats the only reason it was made to actually work.

Yes Void lords are also mentioned that ONLY the most powerful can manifest and require tremendous energy to sustain themselves

Dimensius IS a Void Lord period the end. Not some little creation or figment. he is one. He may be at 1% power but he is a Void Lord point blank. And it was only through things like the Mana forges Exploding or the Ethereals and their planet of Techno sorcery that enabled him to manifest in the first place and begin to consume.

You can say Ethereals suck but the Shadowguard, and people like Locus walker and other stuff they will be able to pull from is all the evidence needed that the Ethereals Good and bad are going to be a major factor soon with its own featured patch content or something similar.

This is pretty telling too with Nether- Prince Ethereals poping up everywhere now.

[Blamblam41]

There doesn't need to be another continent for there to be landmasses on the "other side", it just means any that may or may not be there aren't large enough to be consider continents, so I don't expect this to stop people from thinking there could be more land we haven't seen yet.

Kul'trias isn't a continent, it's just a large island, same with Zandalar, same with the Broken Isles.



Lol, won't happen any time soon if ever, Warcraft is too popular to "wrap up"... They will just fast forward like a hundred years or something and start WoW2 or whatever with a new story in that era.

The chronicles were a big mistake though IMO, because they prevent any games set in the past by spoilering basically everything noteworthy that could take place in those games.

Something being too popular to end? That theory worked well for Rome.