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    Quote Originally Posted by Toogoodman View Post
    Do people actually not believe in the holocaust? I guess I shouldn't be surprised since there are still "flat earthers"
    Don't forget gravity deniers yes that is a thing now.

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    I don’t know... this might be the time for CA-11 to #walkaway. Its not like he has any chance of winning. If this isn’t the time to protest democrats by not voting at all, then there is no better time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    Don't forget gravity deniers yes that is a thing now.
    Gravity is just a Theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z-Man View Post
    Gravity is just a Theory.
    Google it at your own risk that is not what I am talking about it the words WTF come to mind.

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    If he had the common sense to say "banks" instead of "jews" he'd be louded as a great socialist We actually have this as a bit of an issue at the moment in the UK with the Labour party. There seems to be only a small line between people blaming the "bankers" for everything and blaming Jews.

    (It doesn't help that the current Labour leader hates bankers, thinks "the banking system" controls the world, and publicly sympathises with Hezbollah and Hamas. Like come on man! Just say what you're thinking!)

    Quote Originally Posted by Thekri View Post
    So is it hysterical to call him a Nazi? Or is that overreacting? I am confused because while he seems like he is probably a Nazi, he might just be telling it like it is.
    No just antisemite. People really have to stop throwing roung the whole "nazi" thing all the time. If people really think any of these idiots are even comparable to the ACTUAL Nazis, people woefully don't understand the scale of the horrific acts they commited. All the "Nazis" in the US are just loser no lifers doing nazi-cosply.

    Quote Originally Posted by Toogoodman View Post
    Do people actually not believe in the holocaust? I guess I shouldn't be surprised since there are still "flat earthers"
    Well you can't experience it directly so there will always be people that question it - questioning "history" is important imo, but holocaust deniers do that with a strong confirmation bias to what they already believe. I'm suprised more just don't blame the Russians for doing it and blaming the Germans - that seems more believable considering their government at the time.

    It doesn't help that some of the original "evidence" that was public early on wasn't real - Some of the photos we see regularly aren't from the camps, and some were even doctored. That's because at the time they were more used as illustrative of the horrific events and they didn't think in 70 years time people would be using them to try and disprove something actually happened. There's plenty of ACTUAL evidence and information that it happened for anyone who actually wants to find it.

    https://forward.com/fast-forward/405...date-robocall/His campaign website includes false claims that 9% of U.S. government officials are dual citizens of Israel and that Jews played a “prominent role” in the African slave trade, and celebrates a “courageous” elderly German woman who was sentenced to two years in prison for denying the Holocaust.
    Wait.. it's illegal and you can actualy go to prison for just not believing in it? LOL Well that's retarded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rogueMatthias View Post
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    Well you can't experience it directly so there will always be people that question it - questioning "history" is important imo, but holocaust deniers do that with a strong confirmation bias to what they already believe.
    Wow, holocaust denier apologist. There's a difference between historiography and denying events that actually occurred. It doesn't matter how strong someone's commitment is, there are mountains of data sets, first person accounts, diaries, living survivors of war atrocities, etc. It is beyond sad that you are giving any sort of credence to these mislead (and probably racist) deniers.
    Lord just reading that line you wrote makes my stomach turn. But I shouldn't be all that surprised given that you claimed today's neo-Nazis are akin to cosplayers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogueMatthias View Post
    Wait.. it's illegal and you can actualy go to prison for just not believing in it? LOL Well that's retarded.
    Not saying I agree with the law but considering it was Germany who caused it, I can understand it to a point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogueMatthias View Post
    No just antisemite. People really have to stop throwing roung the whole "nazi" thing all the time. If people really think any of these idiots are even comparable to the ACTUAL Nazis, people woefully don't understand the scale of the horrific acts they commited. All the "Nazis" in the US are just loser no lifers doing nazi-cosply.
    Nazi is over-used. The KKK hated Jews way before anyone even heard of the Nazis. Hating Jews is a long-standing American tradition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    Nobody can be that stupid.
    Republicans are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloodstripes View Post
    Wow, holocaust denier apologist. There's a difference between historiography and denying events that actually occurred. It doesn't matter how strong someone's commitment is, there are mountains of data sets, first person accounts, diaries, living survivors of war atrocities, etc. It is beyond sad that you are giving any sort of credence to these mislead (and probably racist) deniers.
    Damn I can't tell if people are trolling me sometimes or if they're really this utterly pathetic.

    I'm not an apologist, nor giving credence to their views Trying to work out why a person would have a view isn't giving credence to that view. People deny it happened because they don't believe that it happened. I'd wager a lot HAVE seen the evidence but, as I said, they're approaching it with an outset of racism/antisemitism (and prob victimisation) and have confirmation bias around that when looking at the evidence. Show them all the diaries and survivors in the world but they'll acknowledge and believe only the evidence that backs up what they already believe.
    Quote Originally Posted by bloodstripes View Post
    But I shouldn't be all that surprised given that you claimed today's neo-Nazis are akin to cosplayers.
    They are. They're nothing like actual Nazis. In fact, if you genuinely think all these dumb US "Nazis" are anywhere even close to the what the actual Nazis were and what they did, then your understanding of the scope of what happened is so pathetically limited and ignorant that you're just as bad as the deniers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rogueMatthias View Post
    They are. They're nothing like actual Nazis. In fact, if you genuinely think all these dumb US "Nazis" are anywhere even close to the what the actual Nazis were and what they did, then your understanding of the scope of what happened is so pathetically limited and ignorant that you're just as bad as the deniers.
    They are not as bad as actual Nazis, just are:

    Quote Originally Posted by rogueMatthias View Post
    I'd wager a lot HAVE seen the evidence but, as I said, they're approaching it with an outset of racism/antisemitism (and prob victimisation) and have confirmation bias around that when looking at the evidence. Show them all the diaries and survivors in the world but they'll acknowledge and believe only the evidence that backs up what they already believe.
    You are forgetting one thing they believe... that there is nothing wrong with being a Nazi and the Holocaust is made up to make them look bad. Real Nazis wouldn’t do such horrible things...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanstone View Post
    Nazi is over-used. The KKK hated Jews way before anyone even heard of the Nazis. Hating Jews is a long-standing American tradition.
    Well, considering antisemitism was around back when christianity was not, you guys are late to the party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    I think I got leprosy from reading that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimaryColor View Post
    Jews go into interesting fields and professions, which is not something to be "stopped". Plus Jews need to build up their strength to help Israel kick ass in the Middle East.
    The fuck does this pertain to anything here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogueMatthias View Post
    If he had the common sense to say "banks" instead of "jews" he'd be louded as a great socialist We actually have this as a bit of an issue at the moment in the UK with the Labour party. There seems to be only a small line between people blaming the "bankers" for everything and blaming Jews.
    I guess it's just too bad for your hypothesis that the only people who equate "bankers" with "Jews" are antisemites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    The fuck does this pertain to anything here?
    It pertains to why Fitzgerald thinks Jews are taking over the world. Jews tend towards creative outlets like cinema, business, or sciences such as physics. He's not necessarily a 'Nazi' or evil, he's missing the point as to why Jews are attracted to certain professions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimaryColor View Post
    It pertains to why Fitzgerald thinks Jews are taking over the world. Jews tend towards creative outlets like cinema, business, or sciences such as physics. He's not necessarily a 'Nazi' or evil, he's missing the point as to why Jews are attracted to certain professions.
    Jews are attracted to art, science and business? Interesting......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Jews are attracted to art, science and business? Interesting......
    Yes exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimaryColor View Post
    Yes exactly.
    I think you misunderstood. I’m making fun of you for thinking it’s note worthy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimaryColor View Post
    It pertains to why Fitzgerald thinks Jews are taking over the world. Jews tend towards creative outlets like cinema, business, or sciences such as physics. He's not necessarily a 'Nazi' or evil, he's missing the point as to why Jews are attracted to certain professions.
    ... what exactly are you talking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimaryColor View Post
    It pertains to why Fitzgerald thinks Jews are taking over the world. Jews tend towards creative outlets like cinema, business, or sciences such as physics. He's not necessarily a 'Nazi' or evil, he's missing the point as to why Jews are attracted to certain professions.
    I'd call someone saying "Jews must be stopped" a Nazi. Who else says that besides them? I'm sure party clowns don't go around doing that or burger flippers.

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