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    Winning folks get used to it. You don't understand what's going on here, it's literally 4D chess. #MAGA

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    Quote Originally Posted by lockedout View Post
    Winning folks get used to it. You don't understand what's going on here, it's literally 4D chess. #MAGA
    It must be, considering Trump is literally blaming himself.
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    This is actually ridiculous, if the hardliner right wingers on here really cant take their rose tinted glasses over this shit today, you're all truly lost. This is absolutely disgraceful, how can you walk in on our allies last week, shit on them, and then suck off Putin today.... Seriously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toogoodman View Post
    This is actually ridiculous, if the hardliner right wingers on here really cant take their rose tinted glasses over this shit today, you're all truly lost. This is absolutely disgraceful, how can you walk in on our allies last week, shit on them, and then suck off Putin today.... Seriously?
    It's almost like many of the people who continue to support Trump, including the cavalcade of Republicans verbally condemning him who refuse to actually take any meaningful action to back up those words, don't actually have any firm principles or underlying ideology beyond, "Power for the sake of power."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    It's almost like many of the people who continue to support Trump, including the cavalcade of Republicans verbally condemning him who refuse to actually take any meaningful action to back up those words, don't actually have any firm principles or underlying ideology beyond, "Power for the sake of power."
    Pretty much, people who are still "Trump or nothing" have literally no idea what their original ideology is based on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lockedout View Post
    Winning folks get used to it. You don't understand what's going on here, it's literally 4D chess. #MAGA
    I think Trump is using straightforward reasoning. Russia has turned right wing ever since the communist USSR fell. Europe has turned left wing. Therefor Trump as a right winger focuses his criticism on Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    It's almost like many of the people who continue to support Trump, including the cavalcade of Republicans verbally condemning him who refuse to actually take any meaningful action to back up those words, don't actually have any firm principles or underlying ideology beyond, "Power for the sake of power."
    What are you talking about? Trump is consistently pro-right wing and anti-left wing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lockedout View Post
    Winning folks get used to it. You don't understand what's going on here, it's literally 4D chess. #MAGA
    The funny thing about this... is that Trump has done to America, what people like you have done to the word “literally”... shame... low energy... sad... lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimaryColor View Post
    What are you talking about? Trump is consistently pro-right wing and anti-left wing.
    Even as a coastal elite who was friends with Clintons?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Even as a coastal elite who was friends with Clintons?
    No, I'm talking about his policy positions as POTUS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimaryColor View Post
    What are you talking about? Trump is consistently pro-right wing and anti-left wing.
    Except for his isolationist, anti-free trade policy. Except for his constant attacks on our military and trading partners. Except for that time he advocated for taking peoples guns without due process.

    I could go on, but pretending Trump has a coherent ideology informing his decisions is laughable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimaryColor View Post
    No, I'm talking about his policy positions as POTUS.
    Oh... like using tax payer money to bail out private enterprise?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Except for his isolationist, anti-free trade policy. Except for his constant attacks on our military and trading partners. Except for that time he advocated for taking peoples guns without due process.

    I could go on, but pretending Trump has a coherent ideology informing his decisions is laughable.
    That is right wing. You know that libertarianism is orthogonal to the left-right spectrum, right? Trump was never running as a libertarian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimaryColor View Post
    That is right wing. You know that libertarianism is orthogonal to the left-right spectrum, right? Trump was never running as a libertarian.
    Trump speaking at freedom fest:



    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Skousen

    During his tenure at FEE, Skousen launched a non-partisan, libertarian conference, then titled "FEEFest," which premiered in Las Vegas in 2002. The goal was to bring all think tanks, organizations and people who are concerned about liberty, personal freedom, civil rights, free market principles and economic freedom, to meet and discuss important issues of the day. After Skousen left the presidency at FEE, the conference continued as "FreedomFest," first under the purview of Young America's Foundation, and later, under Skousen's own direction and ownership. The conference has grown to attract thousands of people each year, and focuses on issues of geopolitics and domestic politics, global economics, investing and personal finance, free markets and entrepreneurship, health and healthcare, education, arts and literature, science and technology, history, and philosophy. The conference is popular in the libertarian political movement. FreedomFest also houses the Anthem Film Festival, the world's only libertarian film festival, directed by Jo Ann Skousen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Trump speaking at freedom fest:

    [video=youtube_share;f3hGCLZ156Q]https://youtu.be/f3hGCLZ156Q[video]

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Skousen

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    That's good that Trump recognizes the importance of freedom, however I would say he is clearly more right wing and only occasionally emphasizes libertarian ideas.

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    damn Obama is worthless
    Good job Trump
    Showing how an apology tour is done! #MAGA!! (Make America Genuflect Again!)

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    Republicans are truly limp dicks on this. Any other congress with a different president would have impeached on this past week alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimaryColor View Post
    No, I'm talking about his policy positions as POTUS.
    He has policy positions? I just assumed he thinks the news is fake, made terrible tax cuts, and nothing else.

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    Remember when cons whined and lied about how President Obama went on an apology tour?

    Well, Trump is doing exactly that now with an extra helping of 'The US sucks' on the side and the Trumpkins are cheering him on.

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    If we can be allies with of all fucking places Saudi Arabia, why can't we be allies with Russia?

    Human Rights in Saudi Arabia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pipebomb View Post
    If we can be allies with of all fucking places Saudi Arabia, why can't we be allies with Russia?

    Human Rights in Saudi Arabia
    Because Russia is actively hostile to our interests so long as Putin and his puppets are in charge there.

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    Before 2016 that probably would not have been a controversial thing to say or think among people who often voted Democrat.
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