McCain's casket is arriving at the National Cathedral and Trump is ranting on Twitter

[Sunseeker]

I think it was apt, when someone called him the same as a Trump supporter. It’s kind of disheartening when someone agrees with you, but then exhibits the very same behavior that we agreed was toxic... I agree with you, but can you be less of a dick... is not an easy road to travel.

That was me.

Beyond that, Democrats are terrible at getting down in the mud, really they have neither the balls, nor the stomach, nor the strange ability to forgo all attempts at ethics and morality. They try, and they fail and they look stupid. Republicans are always willing to get dirtier, sink lower, and be bigger bastards than the Democrats ever will.

Unfortunately, his ideology is not unheard of in the Democratic party, in fact is it quite common, however the logic is usually applied to political policies rather than electoral behaviours. When the Republicans dive to the right, the Democrats follow, thinking the only way to win is to cater to the slightly less right. The Republicans respond by driving further to the right, and what do Democrats do? They follow right along. But the Democrats suck at being that far right. They'll never be that far right without giving up being Democrats.

It's a terrible strategy, but the Democrats have done it for decades and Clinton was the latest installment. When Republicans went balls-to-the-wall right, the Democrats said "Hey, lets lean to the right to pick up on all this right-wing popularity!" but SURPRISE! Trump out-righted them! He was lower, dirtier, righter than the Democrats could even possibly imagine. And so SURPRISE! The Democrats lost.

Bernie may not have been the right choice, he may have even been a spoiler on the Democrat vote. But when Republicans veered right, he stayed left. He held his ground and said "No we're not having any more of that shit, we're going our own way." The Democrats are terrible at this strategy, they always have been, and it continues to cost them elections because their reactive policies continue to be formulated in response to the positions of their opponents rather than founded on the positions of their supporters, and it has cost and and it will cost them every goddamned time they do it.

[Adam Jensen]

I see you started drinking again. I don't like Hillary at all, but in no way is she worse than Trump, unless you count a bunch of failed businesses with the name Trump on them being "better" than Hillary.

She is if you believe all the "But her emails! Pizzagate! Benghazi! Lizardpeople!" bullshit that was spewed at her constantly in the last decade. If you fell for the Republican Anti-Clinton propaganda machine, you viewed Clinton as literally Satan.

When in truth, she's your typical establishment democrat. I don't like her myself, but I don't think she's evil. I just don't like the establishment. I did vote for her however, because I knew she was a better choice than Trump and I was worried (and apparently rightfully so, with Kavanaugh and Gorsuch) about SCOTUS.

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Meanwhile, the signals that Trump would end up a terrible leader? Present from the very start, from his conduct to his speech to his constant and fragrant lying.

When he ran in 2012 everyone knew Individual-1 was a joke. The media had their day on him, everyone laughed, Trump complained about a birf certificate and went back to his golden tower. In 2015, Individual-1 announced his run again. The media had their day with him. Everyone laughed . . . and for some stupidass reason people thought it'd be a good idea to push him through the GOP primary . . . and here we are with a President so bad at his job liberals are pining for the Bush era.

[Elba]

I know you are banned, but like dude you still have to win over others if you want to pass your preferred policies. Even AOC realized how terrible the optics areof celebrating McCain's death.

There is no winning over people who support the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of innocents. They are monsters.

[Orlong]

Nobody paying the slightest bit of attention during the election should have had any reason to think Hillary was "worse" than Trump.


Honestly, I've never heard a single cogent reason that Hillary would have been a "bad president."

The biggest reason was all of the SCOTUS picks that would be picked. Hillary would have picked judges that would advance the SJW, non-coast values, and liberal agendas, as well as shred the Constitution and allow for more socialism. Instead we will now have judges who rule based on the letter of the constitution and preserve traditional American Values for generations

[Felya]

There is no winning over people who support the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of innocents. They are monsters.

Yeah, they are also murderers and rapists... some of them are good people.

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The biggest reason was all of the SCOTUS picks that would be picked. Hillary would have picked judges that would advance the SJW, non-coast values, and liberal agendas, as well as shred the Constitution and allow for more socialism. Instead we will now have judges who rule based on the letter of the constitution and preserve traditional American Values for generations

You mean Trump values.... those conservatives values got buried over the weekend, as you were chanting MAGA.

You can even tell you know better... non-coast values? Where the fuck do you think Trump’s values came from? You think he learned about middle America, flying from NY to Europe?

[Kaleredar]

The biggest reason was all of the SCOTUS picks that would be picked. Hillary would have picked judges that would advance the SJW, non-coast values, and liberal agendas, as well as shred the Constitution and allow for more socialism.

Which constitutional amendments would have been shredded? What "unamerican values" would have been put into law?

Besides, millions more people voted for Hillary than trump. I'd think it fitting that the majority of the voter base get to determine what American values are, rather than the stinted halcyon view of what a minority of the voter base thinks is right or wrong.

Instead we will now have judges who rule based on the letter of the constitution and preserve traditional American Values for generations

American values like trump's desire to silence the press when they speak ill of him? American values like trying to debase the 14th amendment?

Look, I was able to point out two specific examples of constitutional amendments that trump or his followers have actively spoken against when you can speak only in vague inanities.

What are your examples of amendments under attack from the "evil sjws?"

[Felya]

Warning... Southpark theory of everything incoming. It will offend everyone, so skip this if you are easily offended. You have been warned... see avatar, am in dead milkman mood...

Beyond that, Democrats are terrible at getting down in the mud, really they have neither the balls, nor the stomach, nor the strange ability to forgo all attempts at ethics and morality. They try, and they fail and they look stupid. Republicans are always willing to get dirtier, sink lower, and be bigger bastards than the Democrats ever will.

Because democrats are pussies and republicans are assholes. People who say they are both the same, have an issue with anatomy. They only notice the difference, when instead of dancing around the pussy, you end up covered in shit.

Unfortunately, his ideology is not unheard of in the Democratic party, in fact is it quite common, however the logic is usually applied to political policies rather than electoral behaviours. When the Republicans dive to the right, the Democrats follow, thinking the only way to win is to cater to the slightly less right. The Republicans respond by driving further to the right, and what do Democrats do? They follow right along. But the Democrats suck at being that far right. They'll never be that far right without giving up being Democrats.

That’s not really unfortunate. The problem is that republicans chose to shit in everyone, instead of playing the role of a pussy, that democrats got handled. We shouldn’t want politicians that shit on everything daily. Government needs to have pussies, or the assholes will shit all over everything. That’s exactly what is happening now, the pussy to ass hole ratio is out of whack, so a lot of people are being shit on.

It's a terrible strategy, but the Democrats have done it for decades and Clinton was the latest installment. When Republicans went balls-to-the-wall right, the Democrats said "Hey, lets lean to the right to pick up on all this right-wing popularity!" but SURPRISE! Trump out-righted them! He was lower, dirtier, righter than the Democrats could even possibly imagine. And so SURPRISE! The Democrats lost.

That’s not really true. The same Hillary was hailed as a future president in the 90s, as the one that ran in 2008 and 2016. You cannot really say they shifted, when the common thread has been the same since 1992. Democrats needed to be assholes, but they are simply not. They may try, but don’t confuse a queef and a fart.

Bernie may not have been the right choice, he may have even been a spoiler on the Democrat vote. But when Republicans veered right, he stayed left. He held his ground and said "No we're not having any more of that shit, we're going our own way." The Democrats are terrible at this strategy, they always have been, and it continues to cost them elections because their reactive policies continue to be formulated in response to the positions of their opponents rather than founded on the positions of their supporters, and it has cost and and it will cost them every goddamned time they do it.

Bernie was a boon to Trump and the real mistake that was born out of taking action by DNC to make sure Clinton wins the primary. Can you honestly tell me, you believe we would be discussing Bernie now, or even then... if democrats did not clear the field of choices for Clinton, to avoid another Obama. If Warren or Biden was included in the DNC primary, would Trump bemaking regular speeches about Socialism? Where Bernie’s choice of words is just helping both conspiracy theorist and screaming Venezuela.

[Dontrike]

The biggest reason was all of the SCOTUS picks that would be picked. Hillary would have picked judges that would advance the SJW, non-coast values, and liberal agendas, as well as shred the Constitution and allow for more socialism. Instead we will now have judges who rule based on the letter of the constitution and preserve traditional American Values for generations

I see someone could see alternate realities and also the future of said realities. Again, I see you started drinking again.

Show the "American Values" that were in danger if Hillary was president, I'd love to hear your insane ramblings.

[Gestopft]

Instead we will now have judges who rule based on the letter of the constitution and preserve traditional American Values for generations

They will also preserve the corrupting money in politics and enable corporations to continue shitting on the American worker.

[Ausr]

I see someone could see alternate realities and also the future of said realities. Again, I see you started drinking again.

Show the "American Values" that were in danger if Hillary was president, I'd love to hear your insane ramblings.

I remember when Obama was supposed to have got rid of the 2nd Amendment and take every gun owner's arsenal away from them. Too bad that never happened or was even a thought.

[Dontrike]

I remember when Obama was supposed to have got rid of the 2nd Amendment and take every gun owner's arsenal away from them. Too bad that never happened or was even a thought.

Or those death camps that were supposed to come with the ACA.

[Crispin]

The biggest reason was all of the SCOTUS picks that would be picked. Hillary would have picked judges that would advance the SJW, non-coast values, and liberal agendas, as well as shred the Constitution and allow for more socialism. Instead we will now have judges who rule based on the letter of the constitution and preserve traditional American Values for generations

Ah yes, thank god for being stuck in the mindset of people who lived before the Napoleonic wars /facepalm

[Pannonian]

When judging people, be it in court or on a moral level, intent is one of the most important factors.

While i don't like the politics of Bush or McCain, i never for a minute doubted that THEY thought they were doing the right thing for their country and people. I protested against Bush 10 years ago, and would do it again. He trusted bad advisors, but even back then i didn'T doubt his intention of making the world a better place, even if (in my opinion) he was doing the opposite.

That's the contrast to Trump. He is petty, he is self centered. He does what he perceives is good for him.

I would argue that nearly every US president, even people like Harding and Hoover ultimately wanted to do what was right. I can respect that. Trump (and to an extent Nixon) is just too different.

[Skroe]

When judging people, be it in court or on a moral level, intent is one of the most important factors.

While i don't like the politics of Bush or McCain, i never for a minute doubted that THEY thought they were doing the right thing for their country and people. I protested against Bush 10 years ago, and would do it again. He trusted bad advisors, but even back then i didn'T doubt his intention of making the world a better place, even if (in my opinion) he was doing the opposite.

That's the contrast to Trump. He is petty, he is self centered. He does what he perceives is good for him.

I would argue that nearly every US president, even people like Harding and Hoover ultimately wanted to do what was right. I can respect that. Trump (and to an extent Nixon) is just too different.

Indeed. The most defining characteristic of Trump is that he is a wholly malicious person, and other Presidents simply weren't.

Every other President, even when they were pushing nakedly partisan agendas, had the default position of being the President of ALL Americans and wanting to do good by all of them, at times of trouble particularly.

Donald Trump is not that. He's the President of the Donald Trump supporter, and made very clear thats really all he cares to be.

As one commentator put it, during his response to the Charlottesville Unite the Right rally last year, Trump laid down any claim he had to the moral authority associasted with the Presidency. He was no longer President of the United States, and high priest of our civil religion, that leads us in service to our non-partisan, timeless values. He was very much, just the leader of his mob of racists.

[Powerogue]

The second part of the title isn't necessary. Is there a day that goes by that Trump isn't ranting on Twitter?

[Edge-]

The second part of the title isn't necessary. Is there a day that goes by that Trump isn't ranting on Twitter?

I can't remember when, but there was a brief few days where Trump didn't say a thing on Twitter. It was pretty nice while it lasted.