And another Pakistani child sex grooming gang exposed

[Sliske]

Wasn't aware Asian only means Japanese

I'll bite. Whenever you're looking for a common denominator that might be the cause, you generally have to go past the obvious shit first. You also need to look into the background of the communities these people come from and compare them to other communities.

For instance we can't say "a group of humans gang raped little girls for decades across britian" because we can easily look at every other group of humans that has zero instances of this occurring. For instance, football hooligans aren't well known to be gang raping little girls for decades. Neither are people that own flat screen TVs. Neither are people that subscribe to world of warcraft.

So we can't use the term 'human' and thus we need to go a bit further down. Maybe its their gender? Well, again, we can go ahead and look at all of the communities of men across England that aren't known to gang rape children for decades. Spoiler alert, there aren't any.

So we go a bit further, maybe its how they look? Maybe its bearded men. Again, tons of people with beards - it isn't a known part of having a beard that you adopt these sickening ideas.

So maybe its what they think? Well, they think Islam is pretty dank and they also believe everything they read in the Qur'an. What happens in the Qur'an? Well, the big guy in there, Mohammed, is known to be a child rapist. Interesting. He is also known to promote rape and rape many people from every village he counters. Interesting. The head honcho of their belief system shares the same crimes as the people we're discussing.

So, strong hint there. But maybe theres a bit more? Maybe its the culture they were raised in. Well, that would be pakistani culture. Hmm, interesting. Pakistan doesn't have an age of consent. Thats pretty interesting, too. So we have a culture that has taught its citizens that age of consent doesn't exist while simultaneously pushing a religion that glorifies a serial child rapist.

But nah. Nothing to do with their culture that says age of consent is just a meme. Nothing to do with their rape culture that empowers pedophiles to not just work alone like western pedophiles but run gang rape businesses for pedophiles. Nothing to do with their religion whose Prophet is a serial child rapist. Nothing to do with any of that.

Nah. Don't identify them as Pakistani Muslims - identify them as Asians, despite the fact that every person on the planet associates Asian with Chinese/Korea/Japan/Thailand/Vietnam and not Russia or the Middle East. Nah.

You're right. Damn Asians and their rape cultures!

[DinardJoulien]

I am pretty sure I remember too many news about grooming gangs who where totally white. Some of those went into hundreds, IIRC.
Shit people are everywhere, always have been.
Of course, of course, it is highly possible that "culture" (or lack of it) played into this, but... just saying, this is not unique to arabs, asians, blacks, etc.

Once again, its not considered normal in the Western world.

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This. It's going to be hard to get rid of since it was acceptable for so long (child brides)

Also I don't know what the economy is like in these places but I'm sure kids are worth a pretty penny in poor areas.

Cannibalism also was around for a long time in human history and still is in some African countries.
Maybe we should also treat as normal again, because, it's part of their unique culture?

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On the one hand, criminal men who don't care about women's rights. There are plenty of them, you could be one.

On the other hand, bad parenting, and stupid romantic shit.

'dis shade. Pathetic.

[DinardJoulien]

"B-but the Catholics were doing it too!" the NPCs shriek even in this very thread, as predicted.

Not exactly supporting this kind of argo, but false equivalences perpetuated by lefties are appalling.

Despite always crying how much they care about facts and logic, they can't wrap their SUPER intellectual minds around the fact, that some cultures are indeed worse than others and that some people from those cultures can be inherently more dangerous than most people from Western cultures. I mean, how many modern cultures in the West put their women into potato sacks and stone them for adultery? But yeah, their culture is "beautiful and should be protected and, of course, all individuals from it are extremely well adjusted to living in more peaceful and civilized cultures of the West!".

Before some mentally distinguished individuals will cry how much I am "evil" Trump supporter and alt-right I must say: I don't think all evil from those cultures are inherently bad, crazy or something. But it is without a doubt that people who were risen in the different culture, which mostly backwards and incompatible with a lot of modern sensibilities, have potential to become problems for the Western world. It is natural and, no, it's has nothing to do with "evilness of white people".

Tyrannical regimes of the Middle East made it so their own countries and civilizations have largely degenerated into horrid backwards theocratic regimes and they should fix their own shit, preferably without exploring their problems to the outside world. Sadly those countries exist in the resource rich countries and spineless and greedy western politics will allow them to exist, at least until they will collapse under their own backwardisness.

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Why do people post on here to try and justify this? This kind of shit is above partisan politics. Give your heads a wobble.

Some people are keen to protect "poor oppressed muslims" at any cost, even at the cost of the logic and decency to conform to their warped worldview and to virtue signal.

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No. It's not okay. Obviously. Neither is pretending to have the moral high-ground and trying to demonize entire groups of people based on the actions of a depraved few, when members of the group(s) you belong to do/have done the exact same reprehensible shit.

Would you deny that some cultures might predispose some people more to this kind of crimes?
Or in your world view all cultures are equal?

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some of you could really do from reading this : https://www.theguardian.com/society/...P=share_btn_tw

[DinardJoulien]

Completely agree with people bringing up the Catholics. Until they’re dealt with you can’t say anything about immigrant sex rings. You have to choose one or the other, you can’t be upset with both and let’s face it, if you’re picking the immigrant related one it’s really just because you’re racist.

I hope it was an irony, because, otherwise you have deserved medal "Fool of the Year".

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This is a little confusing. So there's pedophiles, but you can't be "upset" with some of them because they belong to a certain race or religion?
So if you are upset with a pedophile who is immigrant you're racist?
Can you elaborate?

Lefty logic: if you angry about darkskinned people (no matter the offense they have committed) it's ONLY because you are racist. No other options.

[Bakis]

Child sex grooming groups were around *long* before the whole "Arab Pedo Outrage" stuff started, and probably will be around long after, sadly.

At least dare to use its proper name:
Catholic Church

[Najnaj]

Easily how? I guess she will have an opportunity to easily defend her slander in a court of law. Having free speech doesn't mean you can deprive people the right to defend their integrity in a court of law.

If you are talking about criticism or someones literary work or a peer reviewed analysis it actually does. It gives anyone the right to analyze your work and why you came to the conclusions you did.

[DinardJoulien]

It probably sounds like that to you because, well...

It sounds like this, because, it's exactly what it is.

One can be angry about both things, however, denying that some cultures do more to predispose people for this kind of behavior is stupid. Par for the course for the lefties - foreigners are angles and white people are all evil (despite white people creating modern world and left ideals, but who the fuck cares about this little things).

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I'll bite. Whenever you're looking for a common denominator that might be the cause, you generally have to go past the obvious shit first. You also need to look into the background of the communities these people come from and compare them to other communities.

For instance we can't say "a group of humans gang raped little girls for decades across britian" because we can easily look at every other group of humans that has zero instances of this occurring. For instance, football hooligans aren't well known to be gang raping little girls for decades. Neither are people that own flat screen TVs. Neither are people that subscribe to world of warcraft.

So we can't use the term 'human' and thus we need to go a bit further down. Maybe its their gender? Well, again, we can go ahead and look at all of the communities of men across England that aren't known to gang rape children for decades. Spoiler alert, there aren't any.

So we go a bit further, maybe its how they look? Maybe its bearded men. Again, tons of people with beards - it isn't a known part of having a beard that you adopt these sickening ideas.

So maybe its what they think? Well, they think Islam is pretty dank and they also believe everything they read in the Qur'an. What happens in the Qur'an? Well, the big guy in there, Mohammed, is known to be a child rapist. Interesting. He is also known to promote rape and rape many people from every village he counters. Interesting. The head honcho of their belief system shares the same crimes as the people we're discussing.

So, strong hint there. But maybe theres a bit more? Maybe its the culture they were raised in. Well, that would be pakistani culture. Hmm, interesting. Pakistan doesn't have an age of consent. Thats pretty interesting, too. So we have a culture that has taught its citizens that age of consent doesn't exist while simultaneously pushing a religion that glorifies a serial child rapist.

But nah. Nothing to do with their culture that says age of consent is just a meme. Nothing to do with their rape culture that empowers pedophiles to not just work alone like western pedophiles but run gang rape businesses for pedophiles. Nothing to do with their religion whose Prophet is a serial child rapist. Nothing to do with any of that.

Nah. Don't identify them as Pakistani Muslims - identify them as Asians, despite the fact that every person on the planet associates Asian with Chinese/Korea/Japan/Thailand/Vietnam and not Russia or the Middle East. Nah.

You're right. Damn Asians and their rape cultures!

Something something faux outrage

As much as idiots like to believe the BBC invented Asian to hoodwink the British population in thinking they're not Pakistani doesn't make it it true. Asian has been commonly associated with those of Pakistani etc descent in the UK for 50+ years and anybody from the UK know very well with ethnicity they mean by Asian

[Soxoffender]

The thing is, most people in the West and in US DO NOT CONSIDER IT NORMAL.
Whereas such practices considered to be NORMAL in the muslim world.

Pakistan made marriage under the age of 16 illegal in 1929 and 79% of women in Pakistan are not married by the age of 18. These guys are fucking disgusting pedophiles who deserve every year in prison that they get but it's got nothing to do with their religion.

I'll bite. Whenever you're looking for a common denominator that might be the cause, you generally have to go past the obvious shit first. You also need to look into the background of the communities these people come from and compare them to other communities.

For instance we can't say "a group of humans gang raped little girls for decades across britian" because we can easily look at every other group of humans that has zero instances of this occurring. For instance, football hooligans aren't well known to be gang raping little girls for decades. Neither are people that own flat screen TVs. Neither are people that subscribe to world of warcraft.

So we can't use the term 'human' and thus we need to go a bit further down. Maybe its their gender? Well, again, we can go ahead and look at all of the communities of men across England that aren't known to gang rape children for decades. Spoiler alert, there aren't any.

So we go a bit further, maybe its how they look? Maybe its bearded men. Again, tons of people with beards - it isn't a known part of having a beard that you adopt these sickening ideas.

So maybe its what they think? Well, they think Islam is pretty dank and they also believe everything they read in the Qur'an. What happens in the Qur'an? Well, the big guy in there, Mohammed, is known to be a child rapist. Interesting. He is also known to promote rape and rape many people from every village he counters. Interesting. The head honcho of their belief system shares the same crimes as the people we're discussing.

So, strong hint there. But maybe theres a bit more? Maybe its the culture they were raised in. Well, that would be pakistani culture. Hmm, interesting. Pakistan doesn't have an age of consent. Thats pretty interesting, too. So we have a culture that has taught its citizens that age of consent doesn't exist while simultaneously pushing a religion that glorifies a serial child rapist.

But nah. Nothing to do with their culture that says age of consent is just a meme. Nothing to do with their rape culture that empowers pedophiles to not just work alone like western pedophiles but run gang rape businesses for pedophiles. Nothing to do with their religion whose Prophet is a serial child rapist. Nothing to do with any of that.

Nah. Don't identify them as Pakistani Muslims - identify them as Asians, despite the fact that every person on the planet associates Asian with Chinese/Korea/Japan/Thailand/Vietnam and not Russia or the Middle East. Nah.

You're right. Damn Asians and their rape cultures!

Europol arrested 184 people that were members of an estimated 70k strong international pedophile ring in 2011. The forum they used was based in Amsterdam and the only common denominator was that they were all pedophiles.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/42108748/n.../#.W8tg92hKiUk

Also, the leader of the Huddersfield group is Sikh.

Oh, also also, Adam's right. Because of our long involvement in South Asia and the fact that there are very few people from China/Korea/Japan/Thailand/Vietnam in the UK, most people here would associate 'Asian' with India/Pakistan/Bangladesh.

[turboether]

those are some sikh individuals

I thought they never unsheathed their daggers but these guys have been whipping it out all over the place.

[nymphetsss]

On the one hand, criminal men who don't care about women's rights. There are plenty of them, you could be one.

On the other hand, bad parenting, and stupid romantic shit.

Implying im a pedo rapist? go fuck yourself

[rogueMatthias]

The parties have come together to share their abhorrence and disapproval and strongly condemn the vile actions of.... a politician who described them as Asian.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...t-huddersfield

/facepalm

[Endus]

Lefty logic: if you angry about darkskinned people (no matter the offense they have committed) it's ONLY because you are racist. No other options.

This really isn't complicated.

Are you angry about pedophiles? Good! Point out pedophiles all you like. Almost nobody (and I say "almost" with the intent that the remainder are pedophiles themselves) supports pedophiles.

Are you angry about Middle-Eastern/Asian cultural groups? Then you're pushing into prejudice, pretty much by definition.

Nobody would blink twice if you were condemning members of these sex trafficking gangs for being pedophiles. They take issue because you blame their entire ethnic group by proxy. Just go back through the thread and see how many people argue about "culture" or "integration" or whatnot. That's the prejudice, right there. Their ethnicity does not matter in this, so stop targeting innocent people solely for sharing some ethnic background.

[Sliske]

Something something faux outrage

Yeah its stupid that people get upset that Pakistani Muslims are gang raping children. I guess we should just focus on the real problems, such as Tommy Robinson and Trump.

As much as idiots like to believe the BBC invented Asian to hoodwink the British population in thinking they're not Pakistani doesn't make it it true. Asian has been commonly associated with those of Pakistani etc descent in the UK for 50+ years and anybody from the UK know very well with ethnicity they mean by Asian

What is this parralel universe you live in?

Do yourself a favour, google the phrase 'asian man.' See how far you have to scroll through images in order to find someone middle eastern looking.

As expected, it was about 100 images in. In other words, people simply don't refer to arabs / middle easterners as Asian.

[Machismo]

Yeah its stupid that people get upset that Pakistani Muslims are gang raping children. I guess we should just focus on the real problems, such as Tommy Robinson and Trump.



What is this parralel universe you live in?

Do yourself a favour, google the phrase 'asian man.' See how far you have to scroll through images in order to find someone middle eastern looking.

As expected, it was about 100 images in. In other words, people simply don't refer to arabs / middle easterners as Asian.

Maybe you should be pissed about rapists, and not Muslims... just a thought.

[Sliske]

Their ethnicity does not matter in this, so stop targeting innocent people solely for sharing some ethnic background.

1. A country almost entirely filled with Muslims



2. Has an extreme problem with child rape and rape of non Muslims



3. Some of its citizens move here and start raping, others have children who become rapists.







And you're like

Their ethnicity does not matter in this, so stop targeting innocent people solely for sharing some ethnic background.

I know agency and so on is a pretty big meme right now, but in reality you're mostly a result of your culture and upbringing. If your culture is filled with rape (this does not even mean it has to be fine with it - for instance in the UK weed is illegal, yet its everywhere) then you are more likely to be okay with rape or even become a rapist yourself. If your religion, the all consuming thing that you devote your life to, is filled with rape and has a leader who is known to be a child rapist, then you are more likely to view child rapist as acceptable.

This is basic shit. Overlooking the key facts that they are pakistani and muslim just means that we as westerners are more likely to fall victim to this barbarism again.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant. If you were okay with them shining a spotlight on the Catholic church for their child rape scandal (which is on going, i might fucking add) then it is absolutely hypocritical and racist to not do the same for Islam.

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[DinardJoulien]

Pakistan made marriage under the age of 16 illegal in 1929 and 79% of women in Pakistan are not married by the age of 18. These guys are fucking disgusting pedophiles who deserve every year in prison that they get but it's got nothing to do with their religion.



Europol arrested 184 people that were members of an estimated 70k strong international pedophile ring in 2011. The forum they used was based in Amsterdam and the only common denominator was that they were all pedophiles.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/42108748/n.../#.W8tg92hKiUk

Also, the leader of the Huddersfield group is Sikh.

Oh, also also, Adam's right. Because of our long involvement in South Asia and the fact that there are very few people from China/Korea/Japan/Thailand/Vietnam in the UK, most people here would associate 'Asian' with India/Pakistan/Bangladesh.

We both know: law and culture / traditions are not always go hand in hand.

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I know agency and so on is a pretty big meme right now, but in reality you're mostly a result of your culture and upbringing. If your culture is filled with rape (this does not even mean it has to be fine with it - for instance in the UK weed is illegal, yet its everywhere) then you are more likely to be okay with rape or even become a rapist yourself. If your religion, the all consuming thing that you devote your life to, is filled with rape and has a leader who is known to be a child rapist, then you are more likely to view child rapist as acceptable.

This is basic shit. Overlooking the key facts that they are pakistani and muslim just means that we as westerners are more likely to fall victim to this barbarism again.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant. If you were okay with them shining a spotlight on the Catholic church for their child rape scandal (which is on going, i might fucking add) then it is absolutely hypocritical and racist to not do the same for Islam.

Someone gets it.

[Soxoffender]

What is this parralel universe you live in?

Do yourself a favour, google the phrase 'asian man.' See how far you have to scroll through images in order to find someone middle eastern looking.

As expected, it was about 100 images in. In other words, people simply don't refer to arabs / middle easterners as Asian.

Are you British? One of the legacies of British colonialism is that there are far more people of Indian/Pakistani/Bangladeshi descent living here than people of other Asian heritage. When you complete the UK census your options include the following:
Asian or Asian British: Indian
Asian or Asian British: Pakistani
Asian or Asian British: Bangladeshi
Asian or Asian British: Chinese
Asian or Asian British: Other Asian

The first 3 categories outnumber the other 2 by nearly 3:1. If you say 'Asian' in Britain your audience will understand that you mean 'South Asian'.

We both know: law and culture / traditions are not always go hand in hand.

79% of Women aged 18 in Pakistan are not married and the government didn't get voted out for introducing this law - it's not part of the culture.

This is basic shit. Overlooking the key facts that they are pakistani and muslim just means that we as westerners are more likely to fall victim to this barbarism again.

You may have missed my comment earlier but the leader of the Oxford gang was Sikh and the largest known pedophile group in modern history had a Dutch based website and no ethnic or religious affiliation.

[Machismo]

1. A country almost entirely filled with Muslims



2. Has an extreme problem with child rape and rape of non Muslims



3. Some of its citizens move here and start raping, others have children who become rapists.







And you're like





I know agency and so on is a pretty big meme right now, but in reality you're mostly a result of your culture and upbringing. If your culture is filled with rape (this does not even mean it has to be fine with it - for instance in the UK weed is illegal, yet its everywhere) then you are more likely to be okay with rape or even become a rapist yourself. If your religion, the all consuming thing that you devote your life to, is filled with rape and has a leader who is known to be a child rapist, then you are more likely to view child rapist as acceptable.

This is basic shit. Overlooking the key facts that they are pakistani and muslim just means that we as westerners are more likely to fall victim to this barbarism again.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant. If you were okay with them shining a spotlight on the Catholic church for their child rape scandal (which is on going, i might fucking add) then it is absolutely hypocritical and racist to not do the same for Islam.

But is it almost entirely filled with pedophiles?