Obviously a rhetorical post. The answer is yes. It's still forced. So they think it should be. What's to discuss with such a loaded question?
Prot Warrior 2004-2008. Hunter 2008-2018.
Retired boomer.
Just make master looter an option if you have a certain number of guild members in the group. If it gets changed from personal to master loot, make a message pop up, alerting the non guild members so that they can leave if they want to. Once trash is killed, the loot cannot be changed unless the instance is reset. All they have to do is make the non guild members aware that they may have to deal with master loot, I don't see what's so hard about that.
Blizzard 2004: Work your ass off for your gear
Blizzard 2018: Soviet Azeroth
After getting into mythic raiding with multiple corrupt guilds i can say I don't want master looter back.
At the high end yes you have people who are okay with suffering for the good of the team. But on the low end accessible to most people you get little leech guilds of 4-6 people hopping from guild to guild doing mergers to skim loot and leave when the well runs dry and the guild turns on the GM.
it happened 3 times and it's always the same,we get 3 to 4 bosses in some guys get stressed out and go on a break so the gm does a merger with a clique that left another guild with full heroic gear to replace the guys on a break But for some reason adding 5 guys justifies making 2 of them a officer with a spot loot council, then they pretty much always priorities their guys and people start dropping out become of the lack of gains. Then our GM freaks out and starts lashing out at people leading to the atmosphere nose diving and a fracture starts in the guild. the the GM goes on a stress break at which point the clique moves on to a guild on content we haven't done yet.
At least with personal loot you get something for the suffering because in these low end mythic guilds that's what it is. 12 people starting of friendly then slowly starting to resent each other until either the guild implodes or they all agree to take a long break. and the leeches.
Last edited by mmoca60dffc8a8; 2018-11-01 at 09:39 PM.
who the fuck sticks with a gm that fails at keeping a guild together 3 times? so personal loot is good because you're too stubborn to just apply to a 3/8m guild that's been around for more than 8 weeks?
jesus i thought the wildest story in this thread was gonna be the one dude who kept spouting that personal loot is good because people would master loot pug heroic runs and give themselves all the loot just for him to admit 10 pages later he was one of the people doing that. this is on another level.
I love being stuck with a 370 weapon while our blood DK tank got a 390 socketed Taloc mace.
And by love I mean it's total bullshit.
This horse's body has been beaten to a pulp and the train has left the station. ML is gone and so should this thread now.
I think if they were to reverse it in 8.1 we would've heard about it by now. I expect PL to stay for the remainder of BFA at the very least.