Incels/Right Wingers strike again. 2 dead in Florida

[Mihalik]

the man who police said opened fire at a yoga studio in Tallahassee, Florida, on Friday evening made numerous racist and misogynistic comments in YouTube videos posted in 2014, according to a report from The New York Times.

In the videos, the man identified with "involuntary celibates" -- otherwise known as "incels" -- and also made derogatory remarks about interracial relationships and appeared resentful toward women who wouldn't date him.
CNN has seen the videos The New York Times reported on, but has not independently verified that the man in the videos is the gunman identified by police.
The videos were first reported by BuzzFeed News.
According to police, Scott Paul Beierle, 40, walked into Hot Yoga Tallahassee on Friday evening and opened fire, killing two people and wounding five others before turning the gun on himself.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/03/u...dio/index.html

In Beierle's other YouTube videos, he spoke out against police, interracial couples, racial diversity, illegal immigration and Obamacare.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hot-yog...ouching-women/

So, how many more people need to die before we admit that we have a right-wing terrorist problem?

P.S Missed the existing thread on the subject.

[Everwake]

Mostly what we have is a gun problem, which allows weak people like this guy to kill others. But that's another thread altogether.

[Mihalik]

Mostly what we have is a gun problem, which allows weak people like this guy to kill others. But that's another thread altogether.

Yet...It's not Democrats shooting up Synagogues and Yoga Studios in the name of affordable healthcare and education.

[Daedius]

Yet...It's not Democrats shooting up Synagogues and Yoga Studios in the name of affordable healthcare and education.

Got to get them brownie points to spin a loner with a political agenda, and not for the jealous pathetic twat he was...

[Eveningforest]

Yet...It's not Democrats shooting up Synagogues and Yoga Studios in the name of affordable healthcare and education.

No, it isn't, Mihalik, but a sense of superiority is what this country is built on. Rome did not collapse until it did.

[Kraenen]

Yet...It's not Democrats shooting up Synagogues and Yoga Studios in the name of affordable healthcare and education.

Here's one, not a Democrat or for education, but leftist and a kook who wanted to kill someone literally as a statement about environmental pollution.

On September 5, 1975, Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme, a cult member of Charles Manson's Manson Family, attempted to assassinate United States President Gerald Ford in Sacramento, California. She wanted to make a statement to people who refused to halt environmental pollution and its effects on Air, Trees, Water, and Animals (ATWA).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald..._in_Sacramento

[Ooid]

Oh shit time to shutdown youtube. How dare they give a platform to this hate.

[Worvon]

Here's one, not a Democrat or for education, but leftist and a kook who wanted to kill someone literally as a statement about environmental pollution.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald..._in_Sacramento

So we're going back far to bring up stuff eh? Well lets not forget this one time when a conservative christian ran a country and riled up his mindless base. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust

[Kraenen]

So we're going back far to bring up stuff eh? Well lets not forget this one time when a conservative christian ran a country and riled up his mindless base. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust

Well, Hitler wasn't really a Christian, but on the point - I'm simply arguing against the notion the left has never been politically violent. It's relatively impotent these days compared to the right.

[Beardedfreak]

https://i.redd.it/29hx16keb6w11.jpg

[Varitok]

Well, Hitler wasn't really a Christian, but on the point - I'm simply arguing against the notion the left has never been politically violent. It's relatively impotent these days compared to the right.

I do love when the trying try to point at left as violent ones by bringing up fifty year old incidents or saying how they were racist 125 years ago. It's amusing.

[prwraith]

Godwin's law on page 1. #respect

[Bathory]

Well, Hitler wasn't really a Christian, but on the point - I'm simply arguing against the notion the left has never been politically violent. It's relatively impotent these days compared to the right.

I don't think anyone is claiming the left doesn't have crazies. Only that we've had 3 attacks, every week for the last 3 weeks.

[cronotose]

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/03/u...dio/index.html



https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hot-yog...ouching-women/

So, how many more people need to die before we admit that we have a right-wing terrorist problem?

P.S Missed the existing thread on the subject.

I like how you don't even pretend to have a rational or coherent method of applying blame. Not that long ago a Democrat killed 48 men in a gay night club in Florida. Clearly we have to admit that Democrats have a homophobia problem. That is exactly how logic works.

[InsightTimer]

I wonder if those shot were promiscuous.

[Barnabas]

Manosphere strikes again. What a bunch of dumbasses. If they could, for just a second, admit they are the problem, make some changes and get out of the friend zone they'd become pleasant people.

[Ealyssa]

Got to get them brownie points to spin a loner with a political agenda, and not for the jealous pathetic twat he was...

So when a muslim kill someone it's obviously terorrisme and islamisation going rempant.

But when an right-winger shitbag is doing the same, "it's just a lonely guy you shouldn't care about what he believed and advocated for. Political side of peace"

Am I geting your deflection right ?

[Daedius]

So when a muslim kill someone it's obviously terorrisme and islamisation going rempant.

But when an right-winger shitbag is doing the same, "it's just a lonely guy you shouldn't care about what he believed and advocated for. Political side of peace"

Am I geting your deflection right ?

Are you going to tell me all murders are affiliated to some political ideology?

[Mihalik]

Well, Hitler wasn't really a Christian, but on the point - I'm simply arguing against the notion the left has never been politically violent. It's relatively impotent these days compared to the right.

The left isn't currently politically violent in the US. Also political alignment is a spectrum, in the US it's not the left that is politically violent. It's the right.

If the shooter had been a Muslim shooting 2 women because he felt they were "immoral" and would have made videos about the immorality of the western women and shit like that we'd be calling him a terrorist. But if the shooter is a right winger who hates women because they got out of the kitchen and aren't his personal property anymore then it's just a "crazed gunman".

The guy shooting Jews because he's been told by the right wing US President that Jewish billionaires are funding some "caravan" of immigrants is also not a terrorist, just another crazed gunman.

The guy driving car into a crowd of people protesting against white supremacists, is also not a terrorist, but just a crazed ... driver?

The guy sending out 10 pipe bombs to political opponents and critics of the President is not a terrorist, just a crazed pipe bomber?

How many "crazed" killers do we need before people like you admit that there is a pattern?

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Are you going to tell me all murders are affiliated to some political ideology?

No. Of course not.

But the whole Incel/MGTOW/Alt-Right has a significant ideological and political overlap. There's an emerging and obvious pattern.

[Kraenen]

The left isn't currently politically violent in the US. Also political alignment is a spectrum, in the US it's not the left that is politically violent. It's the right.

We agree on this - the left was quite violent in the 1970s but has died down in the current era.

If the shooter had been a Muslim shooting 2 women because he felt they were "immoral" and would have made videos about the immorality of the western women and shit like that we'd be calling him a terrorist. But if the shooter is a right winger who hates women because they got out of the kitchen and aren't his personal property anymore then it's just a "crazed gunman".

Sure, the first case is obviously an Islamist. The second case doesn't look like just a crazed gunman. Might be closest to call him red-pilled, if we need an ideology for him. Whatever that is we'd need to be sure believing this ideology gives almost a certain chance of believing in force to carry out their beliefs.

The difference between ideological terrorist and 'crazed gunman' seems to be in how much premeditation goes on before they carry out their violence.

The guy shooting Jews because he's been told by the right wing US President that Jewish billionaires are funding some "caravan" of immigrants is also not a terrorist, just another crazed gunman.

The guy driving car into a crowd of people protesting against white supremacists, is also not a terrorist, but just a crazed ... driver?

The guy sending out 10 pipe bombs to political opponents and critics of the President is not a terrorist, just a crazed pipe bomber?

How many "crazed" killers do we need before people like you admit that there is a pattern?

I'm completely in belief that conspiracy, racism, and white supremacy are related to conspiratorial, racist, white supremacist actions. How many Muslim terrorists before we (the left) admit there's a problem with Islam?