Will people downrank Immortals on the app stores?

[Azerox]

This attitude is part of the problem. You just accept everything thrown at you without a hint of dissent or criticism, that's just wrong. Blizzard has a responsibility towards their long time consumers to provide them with quality products. A mobile version of diablo is a slap in the face and it shouldn't be shrugged off as something insignificant, because it's anything but. It shows a dangerously bad trend of catering to gamers who behave like a swarm of insects, devouring parts of what they find interesting and leaving it to die off, all the while true fans are being treated like garbage.

Demanding things from developers .... Be happy with what you get

[glowpipe]

Most of you guys are the actual reason this happened. You kept complaining like shit about microtransactions and lootboxes. Now they went away from the pc marked where MT and lootboxes are frowned upon and into the mobile game market where microtransactions is expected. You brought this on yourself

[melodramocracy]

Topic. Will they, just for the sake of whining?

I'm sure some will. Most will just ignore the game as irrelevant to their interests until a proper sequel comes out. It's not going to make people say "hey, THIS is what's finally going to get me into mobile gaming".

[Orby]

Just let it go for Christs sake. Like play another game, or is Diablo the only video game in your life right now so you gotta focus all your energy on down voting and telling everyone else to downvote something.

Seems a lot of hard work.

The days when we just used to play video games and have fun and when a shit video game came out and we just said 'well thats shit' anmd that was the end of it and people just played something else... good times. I don't remember Starfox Adventures getting all this hate back then and even if it did I didn't have to hear about it everywhere I bloody went lol. People talk about Social Justice Warriors, here's one for you, 'Drama Crusaders' or 'Outrage Riders'

Just let he game die... literally and figuratively. That grave isnt going to dig any deeper with your help.

[salate]

Personally not going to waste my time on writing bad reviews and stuff.
I wish the game the best, I dont like that decision, but still love diablo universe, and really hope that mobile game will be awesome.
Not goin to install it unless my bros/gf/sister installs it, i dont like to play diablo solo

[Deleted]

You sound so entitled lmao. Just because you are a self proclaimed super fan does not mean they need to keep providing to you. Franchises die and/or adapt. Jesus.

yeah tell me this when your dog die )) you and your entitled xD or tell me when something what you like die or some you know people like you cant understand shit about how people feell about this so when you cant understand you cant speak

[Deleted]

I sure won't. I know it's not a popular opinion at the moment, but I like the idea of playing Diablo on my phone, and I probably will give it a try. Why not ?

I think there are two major misconceptions :

1) first, that Blizzard announced Diablo:Immortal instead of D4, like they HAD to choose between the two. I believe a huge company like Blizz has the means to have teams work on two different projects I guess D4 simply isnt ready for reveal, after all D3 took way longer.

2) second, that mobile gaming is somehow worse than traditionnal PC gaming. Wake up people, mobile gaming IS a thing, at least from a market perspective. Like it or not, there are some good mobile games out there, and it's a different gaming experience (that I personnally enjoy, just my 2 cents)

[ryanmahaffe]

I sure won't. I know it's not a popular opinion at the moment, but I like the idea of playing Diablo on my phone, and I probably will give it a try. Why not ?

I think there are two major misconceptions :

1) first, that Blizzard announced Diablo:Immortal instead of D4, like they HAD to choose between the two. I believe a huge company like Blizz has the means to have teams work on two different projects I guess D4 simply isnt ready for reveal, after all D3 took way longer.

2) second, that mobile gaming is somehow worse than traditionnal PC gaming. Wake up people, mobile gaming IS a thing, at least from a market perspective. Like it or not, there are some good mobile games out there, and it's a different gaming experience (that I personnally enjoy, just my 2 cents)

It is worse, smaller screen, horrible input options with less input options, worse visuals and framerates, etc. Mobile game can be good, but this is still plenty okay to be upset about.

-oursourced
-hyped up bait and switch
-reskin-feeling
-Likely horribly monetized
-canon story

That said I won't downvote it unless it is p2w or bad.

[Deleted]

I would if i could be bothered if it has terrible exploitative monitization methods.
I'd be more acceptable of bad monetization tactics for free games if they also added protections against excesive unhealth spending. But the fact these games don't add any protections is sickening.

[Lucifer Morningstar]

Give 5 stars for pet reward!

gg now it's ranked 4.9

[Deleted]

It is worse, smaller screen, horrible input options with less input options, worse visuals and framerates, etc. Mobile game can be good, but this is still plenty okay to be upset about.

-oursourced
-hyped up bait and switch
-reskin-feeling
-Likely horribly monetized
-canon story

That said I won't downvote it unless it is p2w or bad.

I'm not saying it's necessarily going to be a great game. But then again, how many downright bad game have Blizzard made in the past ? They have their faults but they do have a reputation for polishing up their games, and I trust them with that.

Also, monetization is not always bad, that depends on how it's executed. I often play Vainglory on my ipad, and it's no pay2win, only cosmetics, so why not ?

[Cronovey]

I think the issue is, no matter how many Western players downrank the app in the store, the Eastern playerbase (which it is targeted at primarily) outnumbers us like 3 to 1, so it'll have a good rating whether people like it or not and most people aren't going to waste their time.

[caervek]

You sound so entitled lmao.

If you actually think people are being entitled because they are irate about this then you really need to either Google the meaning of entitled or educate yourself about the situation.

• Blizzard drummed up a big amount of Diablo hype for Blizzcon to sell tickets.
• Players then (rightly) assumed that this meant either D4, a D3 expansion or D1/2 remasters.
• Blizzard issued a statement that ti wasn't going to be D4 so this left a D3 expansion or D1/2 remasters.
• Come the day they announce a Diablo themed reskin of a mobile game.

It's easy to understand why players are pissed, not just because of the duping, and not even because of not getting any of the things they were lead to expect. It's because of how out of touch with their customers Blizzard ave proven they are, committing time/effort to a product nobody wanted and then acting like it's their customers fault for being unhappy because they don't live in the same bubble the devs do.

The best comparison to this whole mess I can think of is Ghostbusters 2016, for years/decades Ghostbusters fans waited patiently for the hyped/teased third film, however in the end they were instead given a cash grab female exploitation movie that shat all over the originals. Fans were outraged and instead of recognising they had screwed up the movies creators tried to silence them and act like they were the victim, their desire for money had lead them to completely take their eye off the fact you can't just give a loyal fanbase shit and expect them to eat it up (unless your called Apple).

[papaz]

Yes, we need to make Blizz think twice before doing a mobile announcement at Blizzcon again. They should do all the mobile shit announcement in China which the market the aim for.

[Deleted]

ofc they will, people always do that, a good example are CoD trailers on youtube

well to be fair, CoD is shit and boring AF.

[Omega10]

Yes, we need to make Blizz think twice before doing a mobile announcement at Blizzcon again. They should do all the mobile shit announcement in China which the market the aim for.

Be careful what you ask for. You just might get it, and not like the result.

[Rekz]

"Diablo IV" or the 4th Diablo game... exercise some thought. Second, that fact that Immortal is set between two entries is another clear sign that it's not meant to have a major impact on the progression of the series or to take away from their ability to move forward... it's filler until they have a new true entry ready.

That said, if IV ends up being a III rehash, consider me uninterested. I'd rather they take the time to make something new and interesting rather than just pump out sequels akin to AssCreed or w/e where they just reskin the same thing. Now, I already hear you saying "Oh, so all you have is speculation...", well it's as equally speculative as the notion that Immortal existing means IV doesn't exist despite them saying "we're working on Diablo" plainly.

I'll give you this one. My response to your comment was made prior to them releasing the press clip that they had regarding other diablo projects in the works. It's fair to assume that D4 is one of them.

And again with the parrot thing... First, this site, the WoW forums, and twitter are the only sites I use in connection to my gaming habits. I have literally no idea what you're referencing. Second, again I'll ask: "What is the acceptable term to characterize individuals who believe they deserve to have their desires fulfilled in perpetuity by another entity simply because at one time they'd purchased said entity's product?" I'd really like an answer to what word you'd like me to use here to characterize these individuals, so that you don't get supposed game-journo PTSD and we can continue the actual discussion. Except that I don't think that's what's actually happening here, you're just using it as an easy out to disengage without validating the merit of it and applying guilt by association with who knows.

Obvious straw man argument. If you're reading the forums regarding this concern, you should know by now why people are upset about the mobile release. Making a blanket statement on why people are upset is unfair and, at best, ignorant as I stated previously.

The pc gaming industry is currently scrutinized by governments around the world and will likely make decisions in the future that will introduce regulations toward some of the more predatory monetization strategies including loot boxes and micro-transactions. For years, these companies have designed and manipulate customers through gambling mechanics to maximize revenue within their casino designed as games.

With regulations looming, IPs have been tarnished and the gaming industry brand has been damaged to a certain extent. Blizz wants to bypass all the headaches that's coming down the pipeline and what's the fastest way to do it?

MOBILE GAMES.

Less development time, less man-power, and a global audience means more revenue and cost savings. Is the mobile gaming industry predatory? Absolutely. Is that what Blizzard wants? Absolutely. This is the primary reason why Blizzard has pivoted towards mobile gaming.

They don't want to deal with the headaches of having their company scrutinized and possibly audited because of their scummy rigged loot box drops. There's very little regulations in the mobile market. They can prey on the old and the young alike and they can maximize their profits using their patented match-making algorithms to their hearts content without worrying about governments looking over their shoulder.

Blizzard developed a loyal fan base because they put game-play first. People could feel and experience the passion they had for pc gaming and it translated into a huge following. That was the old guard.

The people that run Blizzard now don't care if mobile games offend their customer base because they don't care about making quality pc games. They only care about one thing; how much money they can extract from their loyal fan-base. The more manipulative and predatory toward consumers, the better.

I've addressed the posts. Critiquing criticism is not ignoring the criticism. Here's some other Blizzard product announcments that were dislike bombed on Youtube: 1) Mists of Pandaria - one of the better, content rich expansions that ended up being pretty good criticized because it didn't cater to the game's base, 2) Hearthstone - an awesome, deep game that provides 100s of hours of free content, criticized as being a shallow cash grab from a dying company because it didn't cater to Blizzard's base, 3) Diablo 3 on consoles - the same game I really like, but retooled for the console market. Feels great to play and brings back the old school vibe of local co-op beat 'em ups but with way more replay-ability, dislike bombed because the PC crowd was mad they weren't getting new content at the moment.

So there you have 3 examples of pretty good Blizzard products that their base of angry fans went and disliked the trailers to make their voices heard... and no one cared and we all got good games anyway. See that - that was actual Blizzard shilling, sticking up for the fact that when they release good shit, the shit is good. I haven't said Immortal will be good, I haven't said it'll be bad... I have no right to since I haven't played it. A few reputable people at Blizzcon who played it say its shallow and "meh", other turbo-nerd fans like Ian Bates said he rather enjoyed it for what it was. Regardless, me making the point that people should stop losing their minds because they weren't specifically catered to on this one occasion is not shilling, it's a mental wellness PSA.

I don't doubt that DI will be immersive and addictive. This is Blizzard's first major foray into the mobile platform as an ARPG. Based on what they've done historically, I'm sure they're going to do everything they can to knock it out of the park.

[Gsara]

Im going to actually play it before making any final judgement on the game.

[Ehrenpanzer]

I don't get why people want to ruin a chance for Blizzard to make one of their IPs be available to the biggest gaming platform in the world - an audience the Diablo franchise hasn't really touched so far.

Okay, they didn't announce D4, just like they said they wouldn't. I'm sure the same people whining now are the same people who didn't like D3.

To be fair, D3 was a gigantic pile of dogshit when it released.

[Rekz]

Im going to actually play it before making any final judgement on the game.

There's no doubt it's going to be an addictive game. After they get everyone on board, that's when they'll turn the screws on micro-transactions big time.