Am I the only one who won't pay a full sub just for classic?

[sirethas]

itll be the same price as people paid for retail in vanilla days, so its all fair as far as im concerned

It's actually less due to inflation, to get the full classic immersion experience or whatever they call it they should pay 20 dollars to even out the inflation.

[Mosotti]

Phasing was first introduced in Wotlk.

Phasing is not sharding.

Phasing = changing of the ZONE APPEARANCE based on the character progress in game
Sharding = split the high population of a zone into multiple zone instances
Cross realm zone = populate the same zone with characters from multiple servers to counter the low population problem

[Holtzmann]

Phasing was first introduced in Wotlk.

Phasing is not sharding, though.

Phasing was implemented to allow the developers to change environments around as players quested. If two players are on the same step of the questline, then they will see each other in that zone. If they are not, they won't see one another even if they are grouped together. See: Redridge Mountains before and after you do the main quest there. A good chunk of the zone turns into a crater.

Sharding moves players into separate instances of the same zone. Even if the two players are on the same step of the questline they won't see each other unless they group up. If you do group up, then all players in the group are moved into the same instance and can interact as normal.

In both cases you can still communicate with people outside your phase or shard by using the chat function.

[Vorkreist]

Phasing is not sharding.

Phasing = changing of the ZONE APPEARANCE based on the character progress in game
Sharding = split the high population of a zone into multiple zone instances
Cross realm zone = populate the same zone with characters from multiple servers to counter the low population problem

I know that just pointed out what Vineri meant. Either way its a cancer that doesn't belong in classic in any way shape or form.

[Mosotti]

I know that just pointed out what Vineri meant. Either way its a cancer that doesn't belong in classic in any way shape or form.

Yeah, right, being able to play at launch is cancer. I hope the put it in

[delus]

Title says it all. If I'm one of the few who are only interested in classic, fine I probably won't pay it. To be honest, I think I got it right though. Why pay the full price for a game that is old and you've played it already? Also, I've seen a post somewhere that some costs that can be ascribed to a sub can be reduced. I believe split subs would only be fair to players like me, and hopefully you.

How much would you like to pay? Would you like it if the game were free? How about 10 dollars or 7 dollars? Would you pay 15 dollars if you didn't have access to live? There is unfortunately a large subset of freeloaders in the private server community who talk a big game but never intended to return as paying customers.

[MalfLFT]

Yes, or at least most sane people would have expected this exact price. Paying 15 usd is a small price to pay to avoid private servers. In a time where a single movie ticket costs a shit ton, eating out is hella expensive and same goes for almost any kind of entertainment, Wow has always been worth more than its sub fee in terms of ''entertainment for money''

[Xykotic]

You're probably not the only one, but the value of money is relative to the individual. Being in the medium income range the sub cost is so little it might as well be free to me.
To others this might be the difference between eating and not eating, but if you're in that situation you shouldn't be spending time playing classic wow anyway tbh. But to those of us who aren't living paycheck to paycheck its definitely worth it, imo.

[Mamut]

If you think paying $15 a month for a game that's over 10 years old is reasonable and fair you're delusional.
Classic is worth at best $20, once. Not monthly.

"But you also get retail" -You probably
"But I don't want to play retail" -Me

"But they need to cover upkeep costs" -You probably
"Classic won't have major patches past it's final patch and has very low maintainence" -Me

Why you ignore the fact that big team work on the game for over a year now? You keep talking like they just Ctr C whole game and its done. You dont have to pay for Classic, you pay for the access to the servers.

You just sound like entitled kid who want their toys for free.

[Cronovey]

I sure hope the OP wasn't one of those people on private servers saying, "Well I'd play the real thing if Blizzard was running it!" and then expecting it to be free.

So much this. Lots of people complaining that they wanted official Blizzard Classic servers and they'd be willing to pay for Blizzard quality but now there seem to be a lot of people complaining about the 15 a month for the sub and wanting a cheaper option to only have access to Classic servers.

What happened to #NoChanges? You want to disable sharding and have people sit in queues to play and have server crashes and such to "keep it authentic" but then don't want to pay the original sub fee? You don't get to pick and choose what changes are made. Either you're for no changes at all or you're fine with some changes, in which case you've opened the box for them to do whatever they want.

[Holtzmann]

Yes, or at least most sane people would have expected this exact price. Paying 15 usd is a small price to pay to avoid private servers. In a time where a single movie ticket costs a shit ton, eating out is hella expensive and same goes for almost any kind of entertainment, Wow has always been worth more than its sub fee in terms of ''entertainment for money''

Not to mention WoW has never updated its pricing scheme regardless of inflation, AFAIK. So that $15 used to be worth a good deal more back when the game had just been released.

[crusadernero]

Pay the sub and enjoy the game. Or dont sub and dont play. Take the choice and stop making forum threads about your personal choices. Grow up

[Dergiab]

Don't then, pay the $15 for old boring shit, aka Classic.

Classic is absolutely worth 15 dollars, I wouldn't play retail even if it was free.

[crusadernero]

Phasing is not sharding.

Phasing = changing of the ZONE APPEARANCE based on the character progress in game
Sharding = split the high population of a zone into multiple zone instances
Cross realm zone = populate the same zone with characters from multiple servers to counter the low population problem

So since sharding will put people on my server in a different instance I wont see them? Meaning I miss out on interactiong/meeting alot of people who plays on the same server.

[Shaede]

hello? mic check?
get your lazy behind on a druid.
run around retail collecting herbs for ~4 hours a month
buy a token
spend a token get some time

classic = free

jesus. for such hardcore game enthusiasts that should be cake.

[Darththeo]

Blizzard owns the game and if they want to require you to have a sub to retail to play Classic ... they can. If you don't like it, don't play.

Seriously, people think it is free to run servers? I could understand asking for a reduced cost option, where you didn't have have retail too ... but it was never going to be free or B2P.

[Kynario]

There's something for the people who don't want to pay sub it's called private servers.

Private servers will be an inferior and inaccurate experience. They don't have the data Blizzard has i.e. like how mechanics such as Onyxia's breath work, which no one could ever figure out. The most legitimate way will be to play Blizzard's version. That said, here's hoping Blizzard will stay true to Vanilla as much as possible.

On-topic:
It is a lot, but the answer is twofold: a) You're not required to pay for the base Vanilla game like you used to; b) the subscription, despite being rather expensive, cannot be lower than retail because that'd potentially deter players from playing retail. They have to both cost the same, unfortunately. No way around it.

[Zantos]

Before Blizzard announced Classic one of the arguments for not doing it would be it wouldn't make money because the classic community wouldn't pay for access to the servers. This is just showing up to be very true. The classic community said "I'd pay the sub for an official classic experience" but now? You see private servers stating they aren't going to shut down and a lot of people claiming they will stick to the private servers despite the less than authentic experience just because "Blizz sucks"

I highly suspect with the release of classic wow coming up, Blizz is going to start cracking down on private servers. Hard. They will now have even more reason to go after private servers since they will have classic realms that will come with the sub. But, you are right. Some of them are proving Blizzards concerns for people being willing to pay for classic.

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Would you mind explaining how it's fair to charge people $15/m for an old game that was already released, updated, and will not receive any more updates? Explain to me how it's worth $15/m as opposed to being B2P. I think that is straight up robbery and find it hilarious that people don't see it that way. If you already play on the live servers, then sure, it's a steal.

15 dollars a month if your only intent is to play Vanilla, is absolutely ridiculous. But sure, people can keep defending that if they want.

This is what you all wanted. You wanted classic. Its taken time and resources to bring it back and to get it integrated with the current launchers. Want classic updated? Play live servers. You'll have the updates you want.

The pro classic crowd spent years asking for this. Now that you have it, you're trying to prove Blizzards worries right. Do you want them to cancel it?

[Kolvarg]

Every time you are about to ask a "am I the only one ..." question, just stop. There are a lot of human beings on the planet. You're not the only one at anything.

Anyway. No, you're not the only one. Plenty of people wouldn't play it even if it was free. Some people perhaps would play it if it was cheaper. The majority of people who actually want to play Classic will do it though, even if they would've preferred to pay less.

Personally, I'm already subscribed to WoW anyway, so it just adds more value to my subscription. Even if I unsubscribe meanwhile, yes, I would be fine playing a full sub just for Classic.

[Zantos]

There's something for the people who don't want to pay sub it's called private servers.

Probably not for long. Blizzard hates private servers. They got them shut down left and right even before classic wow was a thing. Now that they are going to try to make money, you can be sure they will go after any known private servers.