Improve Ignore

[Deleted]

ignore is a vital function for a healthy gaming environment, as it denies toxic etc. players any interaction. in my 10y WoW career i encountered various types of toxicity, misogynie, racism, anti-semitism, homophobia, lootism, fanboiism, anti-ism, but the running gag seems to be personal attacks (for derailing reasons, see listed above) and death threats to my family and me (in my earlier days i used to state my city and cell number, just gimme quick call ;D, but nowadays its just a report, btw in Germany even an online death threat is subject to § 241 StGB) etc.
my pug descreption standard: pls know instance, affixes etc., no leavers, no hate, just fun! (i do use raider.io, but i dont explicitly state it in pug descr) i exlusivly use ignore as ultima ratio, when any constructive dialogue seems to be pointless due to the emotio-cognitive capacity of the subject.

even though BFA seems to nurture much less toxicity (due to low grind in comparision to Legion), the outdated ignore function demands some Quality-of-Life improvements (i know about BadBoy, but another work-around-addon for a deficite of the games design that doesnt even ignore a complete bnet? my addon ram usage is 500mb, btw IgnoreMore and BadBoy often broke and bugged the igno list until deinstallment):

- ignore capacity should be infinite or min. 4-5digit - i dont want to ever "socialise" with ignored pl again. the ignore list max of 50 sometimes (eg anal spammers and incels saturday nite) isnt sufficient to keep my WoW experience nice and fair.

- ignore function should blacklist a battlenet account, not just a single toon - i dont want to ever "socialise" with ignored pl again, also not with their alts. (addons cant provide)

- ignore function should be accountwide, not limited to the ignoring toon. whats the rationale for this? if i "dislike" a players behavior on one toon, i may accept it on another?

- ignore function should disable LFD-grouping and sharding, an ignore is a very ultimate statement, i dont want those pl on my screen in my living room.

for years i have been in this very situation to have to de-ignore toxic players to be "allowed" to ignore the current offenders.

[Lochton]

ignore is a vital function for a healthy gaming environment, as it denies toxic etc. players any interaction. in my 10y WoW career i encountered various types of toxicity, misogynie, racism, anti-semitism, homophobia, lootism, fanboiism, anti-ism, but the running gag seems to be personal attacks (for derailing reasons, see listed above) and death threats to my family and me (in my earlier days i used to state my city and cell number, just gimme quick call ;D, but nowadays its just a report, btw in Germany even an online death threat is subject to § 241 StGB) etc.
my pug descreption standard: pls know instance, affixes etc., no leavers, no hate, just fun! (i do use raider.io, but i dont explicitly state it in pug descr) i exlusivly use ignore as ultima ratio, when any constructive dialogue seems to be pointless due to the emotio-cognitive capacity of the subject.

even though BFA seems to nurture much less toxicity (due to low grind in comparision to Legion), the outdated ignore function demands some Quality-of-Life improvements (i know about BadBoy, but another work-around-addon for a deficite of the games design that doesnt even ignore a complete bnet? my addon ram usage is 500mb, btw IgnoreMore and BadBoy often broke and bugged the igno list until deinstallment):

- ignore capacity should be infinite or min. 4-5digit - i dont want to ever "socialise" with ignored pl again. the ignore list max of 50 sometimes (eg anal spammers and incels saturday nite) isnt sufficient to keep my WoW experience nice and fair.

- ignore function should blacklist a battlenet account, not just a single toon - i dont want to ever "socialise" with ignored pl again, also not with their alts. (addons cant provide)

- ignore function should be accountwide, not limited to the ignoring toon. whats the rationale for this? if i "dislike" a players behavior on one toon, i may accept it on another?

- ignore function should disable LFD-grouping and sharding, an ignore is a very ultimate statement, i dont want those pl on my screen in my living room.

for years i have been in this very situation to have to de-ignore toxic players to be "allowed" to ignore the current offenders.

Wouldn't mind more advanced ignore functions..

I have been thinking for a while about the possibilities of Blizzard updating their in-game functions - in this topic, 'Ignore Player'.

Would it be plausible to expand the ignore feature beyond the chat?

What if when you press ignore you experience the following:
Ignore/mute text/speech/emotes
Ignore/mute toy effects
Ignore/mute spell effects

Leaving a player character behind which doesn't have much ability of disruption, other than jumping/dancing.

Would this be too harsh to some?

[Deleted]

Overwatch has a function where you can block a person temporarily, meaning you wont get to play with them for another 24/48 hours from what I recall. I wouldn't mind a similar "cool the fuck down period" in case the person has a bad day etc. For the more severe types, I think it would be great if ignore ignored the player's battlenet account as a whole.

[Cizr]

- ignore function should blacklist a battlenet account, not just a single toon - i dont want to ever "socialise" with ignored pl again, also not with their alts. (addons cant provide)

- ignore function should be accountwide, not limited to the ignoring toon. whats the rationale for this? if i "dislike" a players behavior on one toon, i may accept it on another?

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I think if you right click someone and report them for language it mutes their whole account to you.

[Justpassing]

Oh god cue the "get a thicker skin" shitstorm.

Yeah totally gotta get thicker to the legions of boost selling that goes on all day every day.

[Donncorleone]

they should just move the idiots to a seperate server so they are with the same league of toxic spamming hatefull idiots and never allow their account on other servers again ! problem solved :-)

[ashblond]

- ignore function should disable LFD-grouping and sharding, an ignore is a very ultimate statement, i dont want those pl on my screen in my living room.


Ignore doesn't block people from grouping in LFD? I thought it already did.

[Dan Delion]

- ignore function should blacklist a battlenet account, not just a single toon - i dont want to ever "socialise" with ignored pl again, also not with their alts. (addons cant provide)

This. Soooo much.

[Ssateneth]

Ignore already works on an entire battle.net behind the scenes. If you ignore a character, you won't see anything that person types on any of his alts either.
You also won't see any ignore'd people join your random dungeon/raid finder groups either. Already implemented.

[Taenaeris]

ignore is a vital function for a healthy gaming environment, as it denies toxic etc. players any interaction. in my 10y WoW career i encountered various types of toxicity, misogynie, racism, anti-semitism, homophobia, lootism, fanboiism, anti-ism, but the running gag seems to be personal attacks (for derailing reasons, see listed above) and death threats to my family and me (in my earlier days i used to state my city and cell number, just gimme quick call ;D, but nowadays its just a report, btw in Germany even an online death threat is subject to § 241 StGB) etc.
my pug descreption standard: pls know instance, affixes etc., no leavers, no hate, just fun! (i do use raider.io, but i dont explicitly state it in pug descr) i exlusivly use ignore as ultima ratio, when any constructive dialogue seems to be pointless due to the emotio-cognitive capacity of the subject.

even though BFA seems to nurture much less toxicity (due to low grind in comparision to Legion), the outdated ignore function demands some Quality-of-Life improvements (i know about BadBoy, but another work-around-addon for a deficite of the games design that doesnt even ignore a complete bnet? my addon ram usage is 500mb, btw IgnoreMore and BadBoy often broke and bugged the igno list until deinstallment):

- ignore capacity should be infinite or min. 4-5digit - i dont want to ever "socialise" with ignored pl again. the ignore list max of 50 sometimes (eg anal spammers and incels saturday nite) isnt sufficient to keep my WoW experience nice and fair.

- ignore function should blacklist a battlenet account, not just a single toon - i dont want to ever "socialise" with ignored pl again, also not with their alts. (addons cant provide)

- ignore function should be accountwide, not limited to the ignoring toon. whats the rationale for this? if i "dislike" a players behavior on one toon, i may accept it on another?

- ignore function should disable LFD-grouping and sharding, an ignore is a very ultimate statement, i dont want those pl on my screen in my living room.

for years i have been in this very situation to have to de-ignore toxic players to be "allowed" to ignore the current offenders.

It is almost so much fun to join "no leavers" groups just to heart out the second they put the key in. Even more fun when they put that "no hate" into the group description and as soon as the key activates you type something like "Make America Great Again" (instead the usual "For the Horde" / "For the Alliance") - so much "hate" that you're getting from those people before even the first mob is pulled.

I am, however, agreeing with you with the death threat issue - that as well as insulting people is something I would never tolerate in any group that I'm in and I'm always reporting such incidents to Blizzard.

A game like World of Warcraft that you're mostly paying with real money - so Blizzard knows everybody's address and credit card number - does not really need a large-scale "ignore" list because virtually any actual abuse scenario can easily be handled by contacting Blizzard's support. They can not only take all the required steps to shut down somebody's account but to also involve the proper law enforcement authorities if necessary.

The same thing applies to stalkers who will haunt you around different characters. That just does not happen unless you have given somebody a pretty damn good reason to do so. And even then, you can still report it to Blizzard and have their accounts shut down.

No, you are not interested in any of those legitimate cases of abuse - all you care about is living in an echo chamber where nobody ever says anything you might even remotely deem offensive. You want special privileges for yourself and like-minded people to prosecute everybody else on super vague terms that are not in any way well defined and just up to somebody's personal interpretation.

Even your word "toxic" is highly subjective - what's "toxic" to somebody is completely normal to somebody else.

Your claim alone that you need to "ignore" at least a couple thousand people (4-5 digit) already strongly suggests that you're either suffering from paranoia or that you're attempting to abuse the system for subjective matters.

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Overwatch has a function where you can block a person temporarily, meaning you wont get to play with them for another 24/48 hours from what I recall. I wouldn't mind a similar "cool the fuck down period" in case the person has a bad day etc. For the more severe types, I think it would be great if ignore ignored the player's battlenet account as a whole.

Ignore already works on an entire battle.net behind the scenes. If you ignore a character, you won't see anything that person types on any of his alts either.
You also won't see any ignore'd people join your random dungeon/raid finder groups either. Already implemented.

See - problem solved.

Not that it would matter anyways because the number of people who're actually going to log in another character just to haunt somebody is probably slim to non-existent. And most likely the other person also won't like to play with you again.

[Azerate]

The ignore list should also be account wide - it's currently not. I ignore people on my main, and they I can just read their bullshit without any issues on other characters.

Ignore already works on an entire battle.net behind the scenes. If you ignore a character, you won't see anything that person types on any of his alts either.
You also won't see any ignore'd people join your random dungeon/raid finder groups either. Already implemented.

I am pretty sure this isn't the case. I ignored one guy in my guild a couple weeks ago because he was pissing me off in a major way and decided to do that instead of
starting major drama.When he logged his alt I could see him speaking from it without any issues.

[Zka]

OP surely has issues. If you need to ignore thousands of people, then the problem lies with you.

[NotInTheFace0]

I think if you right click someone and report them for language it mutes their whole account to you.

I think it unignores them as soon as you log off though.

[Azerate]

OP surely has issues. If you need to ignore thousands of people, then the problem lies with you.

It's not really your business as to why and how many individuals someone wishes to ignore. It doesn't really matter too. You may have 1 ultimate idiot who you want to avoid forever, or you may have 50. In either case, it should be possible to completely cut them out of your gaming experience. The fact that you cant is a remnant of the old, pre b-net times.

Also, I find it funny that whenever the issue of toxic behavior in WoW is being raised, all the "true gamers" scream that it's not something the devs should waste time on, and instead people should use ignore lists...well there you have it, we want to use the ignore function, but it's unfortunately lacking in some respects.

[Zka]

It's not really your business as to why and how many individuals someone wishes to ignore.

Yeah probably not. But he wants an ignore list of "4-5 digits" capacity. 5 digits is 99999, the populace of a whole battlegroup. Don't you find that weird?

[glowpipe]

- ignore function should disable LFD-grouping and sharding, an ignore is a very ultimate statement, i dont want those pl on my screen in my living room.


Ignore doesn't block people from grouping in LFD? I thought it already did.

thats what i have been told aswell. But i have no actual way of proving one or the other. Other than spamming lfd and hoping he does the same. I don't think i have ever seen a person i have ignored in a dungeon with me, but that might be 100% rng

[tyrlaan]

It is almost so much fun to join "no leavers" groups just to heart out the second they put the key in. Even more fun when they put that "no hate" into the group description and as soon as the key activates you type something like "Make America Great Again" (instead the usual "For the Horde" / "For the Alliance") - so much "hate" that you're getting from those people before even the first mob is pulled.

Cool, can you let me know your toon names so I can put you on ignore preemptively then?

No, you are not interested in any of those legitimate cases of abuse - all you care about is living in an echo chamber where nobody ever says anything you might even remotely deem offensive. You want special privileges for yourself and like-minded people to prosecute everybody else on super vague terms that are not in any way well defined and just up to somebody's personal interpretation.

JFC its a game not a forum for political and social discourse. People play games, ostensibly, to chill and have a good time. No one is obligated to suffer assholes at the same time. You're of course welcome to be one (which by your own admission you embrace fully) but accept the consequences instead of trying to put it on others.

[glowzone]

4-5 digits? I have no idea what you are doing to need an ignore list that size.

Seems rather unreasonable.

[Accendor]

ignore is a vital function for a healthy gaming environment, as it denies toxic etc. players any interaction. in my 10y WoW career i encountered various types of toxicity, misogynie, racism, anti-semitism, homophobia, lootism, fanboiism, anti-ism, but the running gag seems to be personal attacks (for derailing reasons, see listed above) and death threats to my family and me (in my earlier days i used to state my city and cell number, just gimme quick call ;D, but nowadays its just a report, btw in Germany even an online death threat is subject to § 241 StGB) etc.
my pug descreption standard: pls know instance, affixes etc., no leavers, no hate, just fun! (i do use raider.io, but i dont explicitly state it in pug descr) i exlusivly use ignore as ultima ratio, when any constructive dialogue seems to be pointless due to the emotio-cognitive capacity of the subject.

even though BFA seems to nurture much less toxicity (due to low grind in comparision to Legion), the outdated ignore function demands some Quality-of-Life improvements (i know about BadBoy, but another work-around-addon for a deficite of the games design that doesnt even ignore a complete bnet? my addon ram usage is 500mb, btw IgnoreMore and BadBoy often broke and bugged the igno list until deinstallment):

- ignore capacity should be infinite or min. 4-5digit - i dont want to ever "socialise" with ignored pl again. the ignore list max of 50 sometimes (eg anal spammers and incels saturday nite) isnt sufficient to keep my WoW experience nice and fair.

- ignore function should blacklist a battlenet account, not just a single toon - i dont want to ever "socialise" with ignored pl again, also not with their alts. (addons cant provide)

- ignore function should be accountwide, not limited to the ignoring toon. whats the rationale for this? if i "dislike" a players behavior on one toon, i may accept it on another?

- ignore function should disable LFD-grouping and sharding, an ignore is a very ultimate statement, i dont want those pl on my screen in my living room.

for years i have been in this very situation to have to de-ignore toxic players to be "allowed" to ignore the current offenders.

I agree with everything you said.

[Justpassing]

OP surely has issues. If you need to ignore thousands of people, then the problem lies with you.

Yeah, I have issues and the problem lies with me. Why do you care?