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    Quote Originally Posted by Soon-TM View Post
    Indeed, they swore the blood oath to Thrall's Horde. But Sylvanas's Horde is almost a complete perversion of Thrall's, so it follows that they wouldn't be betraying their oath if they rose against Sylvanas to reinstate Thrall, or anyone sane indeed, in her lieu. Blood elves had also sworn loyalty to the Alliance, but after having to endure an asshole such as Garithos, they started dealings with the Horde... so it isn't as if there are no precedents. As a matter of fact, Tauren rebelled against Garrosh, even if he had been appointed by Thrall himself.
    Bit debatable on that. Sylvanas didn't steal the mantle of Warchief. She was fairly surprised and very reluctant to lead when Voljin nominated her. I suspect Voljin had other motives which we may find out soon. The loas probably told Voljin something which we dont know yet. remember that Sylvanas being Forsaken is immune to void corruption. And we dont want a Warchief corrupted by the void.

    However, it doesnt free the Tauren from their obligation. They supported Garrosh and they are honorbound to support Sylvanas as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soon-TM View Post
    As a matter of fact, Tauren rebelled against Garrosh, even if he had been appointed by Thrall himself.
    It's almost as if there is a way to "rebel" against a Warchief who you think isn't fit to lead the Horde... Maybe a way which doesn't invalidate one's blood oath or honor or anything like that, maybe something a Tauren warchief already done? Nah, probably not...

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    Some people here are really sort of ridiculous, as if Hamuul would die spontaneously if he were to object.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AcidicSyn View Post
    Meanwhile Malfurion decided to remember where he comes from and start actually helping his people not die.
    Choosing not to heal the planet as a whole is an interesting way to save his people!

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    Quote Originally Posted by laplacedemon View Post
    It's almost as if there is a way to "rebel" against a Warchief who you think isn't fit to lead the Horde... Maybe a way which doesn't invalidate one's blood oath or honor or anything like that, maybe something a Tauren warchief already done? Nah, probably not...
    Could you be a bit clearer and less condescending, if you don't mind?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fayenoor View Post
    Baine is a warrior not a druid. He is a Tauren first. And all Tauren are Honor bound to the Horde through a Blood Oath. Replay Warcraft III for more details on why Taurens joined the Horde (albeit Thrall's orcish Horde back then).
    I'd really like to see that angle explored more. The "honor" conflict tauren face. On one hand, they swore an oath, and being an oathbreaker is dishonorable, on the other hand, that oath leads them to do dishonorable things. Which weighs more to them? But it doesn't seem like something blizzard deems worth exploring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soon-TM View Post
    Tbh Hamuul and co. shouldn't even have to be asked, they should have rebelled against Sylvie the very moment she burned a world tree. Or after seeing her raise her own soldiers into undeath, Tauren included. But Baine is just a pansy, and has always been, and it looks like Hamuul isn't much better.
    Pretty much this.

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    Isnt he still at that sword trying to heal that wound?

    Hamuul and the tauren druids can sit this one out its not like they have been indentured to serve.

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    Because no one gives a shit about that tree or the night elves, especially Malfurion. Secretly they were glad.

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    Hammul has never sworn loyalty to the Horde and neither has his Druid disciples.

    They fight alongside the Horde when they are up against world ending threats but they stay clear of faction bullshit.

    Teldrasill was an abomination to the druids cause it was grown out of vanity for the Nelfs to regain there immortality and it never had natures blessing and thus they didnt like it.

    Bottom line is the Druid Tauren have better things to worry about like healing the planet of Azeroth!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathreim View Post
    Hamuul is actually stronger than Malfurion.
    Who fed you this lie? or did you troll by purpose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathreim View Post
    I dont think Malfurion can demand anything of him Hamuul is actually stronger than Malfurion.
    Malfurion was confirmed as the most powerful mortal years ago by Metzen, Hamuul is a breath of wind compared to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakhath View Post
    Malfurion was confirmed as the most powerful mortal years ago by Metzen, Hamuul is a breath of wind compared to him.
    Is this before the nerfs or after? Cause now its clear hes not the most powerful mortal since he ran like a bitch from Sylvanas for half the War of Thorns.

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    Oh you're one of those people who think you're actually part of the Horde in real life. You realize he "ran like a bitch" because that's the narrative the writers created right? Just like Hamuul is a joke compared to Malfurion is because that's what the writers have created.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathreim View Post
    Is this before the nerfs or after? Cause now its clear hes not the most powerful mortal since he ran like a bitch from Sylvanas for half the War of Thorns.
    And then almost killed her if it wasn't for Saurfang. He didn't run out of fear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    And then almost killed her if it wasn't for Saurfang. He didn't run out of fear.
    In "A Good War" thats not what happens all we see is darkness and Saurfang gets in a lucky throw.

    NPC health bars shouldn't be taken seriously as lore. In wrath when Garrosh and Thrall dueled Garrosh was doing more damage and we all saw how that worked out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalaator View Post
    ???

    Where would the Tauren druids stand?
    Laugh in his face. The Alliance repeatedly attacked the Horde before the Horde fought back and attack Darnassus, the nelfs have no one to blame but themselves and their weak king.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathreim View Post
    I dont think Malfurion can demand anything of him Hamuul is actually stronger than Malfurion.
    Uhhhhh.. no
    Quote Originally Posted by Nathreim View Post
    In "A Good War" thats not what happens all we see is darkness and Saurfang gets in a lucky throw.

    NPC health bars shouldn't be taken seriously as lore. In wrath when Garrosh and Thrall dueled Garrosh was doing more damage and we all saw how that worked out.
    We get it, you're a horde fanboy stop showing your bias Sylvanas was clearly getting owned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soon-TM View Post
    Could you be a bit clearer and less condescending, if you don't mind?
    He's suggesting that the honourable route for disputes with a Warchief isn't rebellion, but Mak'Gora.

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    They'd stand right where every other class order would stand: In the depths of oblivion.
    Hamuul and the druids don't give a fuck about Sylvanas burning down a world tree for the same reason that Thrall and the Earthen Ring don't care that Azeroth is bleeding.

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