Lead Singer Of Rock Band Shot And Killed By Five Juveniles Ages 12 To 16

[BlackBoss]

Dindus in their pupal stage. Surely they will soon evolve into productive members of society.

And this is what every black person who doesnt own an assault rifle deserve. All of our children are looked at like this.

[slime]

They’re not adults. 12 years old isn’t an adult.

And you literally want to kill children.

Children like these remind me why abortion is legal.

[Themius]

Again, I never claimed that their brains were fully mature... just that they can understand the severity of taking another human life.

BTW...most killers are caught shortly after the crime regardless of age...so your final point is rather meaningless.

And I am say they literally are incapable of fully comprehending it because they literally do not have brains that can

[Najnaj]

Giving them 15 years in prison before giving them the death penalty is fine tbh. Most dont mean kill them now. But they should be put away for a decent amount of time before their pathetic lives are ended. They will be adults by that time.

So if you kill someone at 5 yo, do we jail you for 25 and then kill you?

There are so many things wrong with this short statement that it is hard to know where to begin but perhaps 5 min of reading on how law works in the most basic ways would do you good.

[Themius]

They've acted like adults and committed a crime normally associated with adults, so therefore deserve to be prosecuted as adults.

Regardless of age they took it upon themselves to commit a crime, if they wanted to act as children they'd have not done this.

So you want them to be able to vote if they voice political concerns becauE that’s adult too.

What about if they fuck an adult is that cool because sex is an adult acts too.

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You’re literally lying and making shit up. Why be a liar?

yeah your crime rates in germany are just stellar huh?

this is pre meditated. a decision was made in their dumb little head to commit all of those crimes, all at separate times. i fully believe the intention was there. they wanted to act out the hoodling lifestyle that their favorite rapper talks about.

25 to life for the shooter, the other two can just go to juvenile detention until their 18.

[Raelbo]

A lot of people here on MMO-C need to learn to calm down and work on their EQ.

No, punishing these 5 kids as if they were adults is not, in any way whatsoever rational or justified. That is not to say that nothing should be done, but one should really understand just what the hell actually happened to result in what happened.

Most likely this is a case of 1 psychopath who has a "gift" for being able to manipulate other people. Children are particularly susceptible to such psychopaths. The law needs to figure who the ringleader is (likely the eldest and biggest, but that isn't guaranteed) and that person needs to be placed into prison for the rest of his/her life because he/she is unrehabilitatable.

The other kids need to helped. They are also victims.

If the others were adults, then they would also need to be held accountable, but you can't expect children to be able to held to the same standards of accountability as adults.

[Najnaj]

yeah your crime rates in germany are just stellar huh?

this is pre meditated. a decision was made in their dumb little head to commit all of those crimes, all at separate times. i fully believe the intention was there. they wanted to act out the hoodling lifestyle that their favorite rapper talks about.

25 to life for the shooter, the other two can just go to juvenile detention until their 18.

...yeah, and why would the fact that you didn't even bother to read the article stop you from having an opinion?


There are 5 of them, not 3.

[Donald Hellscream]

They should be locked away for the rest of their lives.

[Laqweeta]

They’re not adults. 12 years old isn’t an adult.

And you literally want to kill children.

Yet they knew EXACTLY what they were doing.

Here’s hoping they all get the death penalty, there’s no rehabilitate children killers.

[Themius]

A lot of people here on MMO-C need to learn to calm down and work on their EQ.

No, punishing these 5 kids as if they were adults is not, in any way whatsoever rational or justified. That is not to say that nothing should be done, but one should really understand just what the hell actually happened to result in what happened.

Most likely this is a case of 1 psychopath who has a "gift" for being able to manipulate other people. Children are particularly susceptible to such psychopaths. The law needs to figure who the ringleader is (likely the eldest and biggest, but that isn't guaranteed) and that person needs to be placed into prison for the rest of his/her life because he/she is unrehabilitatable.

The other kids need to helped. They are also victims.

If the others were adults, then they would also need to be held accountable, but you can't expect children to be able to held to the same standards of accountability as adults.

On mmoc saying let’s not kill children is radical!

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Yet they knew EXACTLY what they were doing.

Here’s hoping they all get the death penalty, there’s no rehabilitate children killers.

Knowing what they were doing an understanding the weight and consequences are different.

An eight year old can know using a gun to shoot someone means they’re dead and goes away forever and that it is a bad thing. But still do it.

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They should be locked away for the rest of their lives.

Kids can be rehabilitated if you still want to lock them up for life you have some vengeance boner.

[Vargulf the Happy Husky]

...yeah, and why would the fact that you didn't even bother to read the article stop you from having an opinion?


There are 5 of them, not 3.

eh, reading isn't my strong suit. but i get an opinion anyway

[Unholyground]

So if I do not want to kill 12 year olds I am defending criminals?

Kids know better, they are monsters not kids.

[Donald Hellscream]

On mmoc saying let’s not kill children is radical!

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Knowing what they were doing an understanding the weight and consequences are different.

An eight year old can know using a gun to shoot someone means they’re dead and goes away forever and that it is a bad thing. But still do it.

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Kids can be rehabilitated if you still want to lock them up for life you have some vengeance boner.

Its better not to risk it, they killed someone just because he wouldn't give them his car keys. That doesn't strike me as redeemable but sure whatever.

[Ryme]

12 is plenty old enough to know that murder is among the worst things a person can do.

[Themius]

Kids know better, they are monsters not kids.

You realize they don’t become something just because you’d like to dehumanize them to justify your own wanting to kill them. A 10 year old that beats their brother toddler to death is still 10 they aren’t a mythical monster.

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Its better not to risk it, they killed someone just because he wouldn't give them his car keys. That doesn't strike me as redeemable but sure whatever.

And he determined his life was worth a car...

Child killers happen. Child killers can be rehabbed

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12 is plenty old enough to know that murder is among the worst things a person can do.

So what? Knowing something is wrong and being able to fully empathize and fully appreciate the weight of what it means and all consequences is chiefly an adult brain thing not a 12 year old brain thing. A twelve year old May know what is right and wrong but fully appreciating it, it does not for it just can’t.

This is like arguing with climate deniers in a 4th hottest year on record thread while they say “but it was cold in Chicago”

[Raelbo]

Kids know better

While this is true, they are also highly suspceptible to manipulation. This isn't some mysterious phenomenon. It's been known since the human species started to become intelligent. It's why we look after our kids until they are actually adults.

they are monsters not kids.

I would say it's quite likely that the ringleader is a psychopath and a monster. I would say that it's highly unlikely that the rest are.

[Donald Hellscream]

You realize they don’t become something just because you’d like to dehumanize them to justify your own wanting to kill them. A 10 year old that beats their brother toddler to death is still 10 they aren’t a mythical monster.

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And he determined his life was worth a car...

Child killers happen. Child killers can be rehabbed

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So what? Knowing something is wrong and being able to fully empathize and fully appreciate the weight of what it means and all consequences is chiefly an adult brain thing not a 12 year old brain thing. A twelve year old May know what is right and wrong but fully appreciating it, it does not for it just can’t.

This is like arguing with climate deniers in a 4th hottest year on record thread while they say “but it was cold in Chicago”

Oh so we are victim blaming now?

[Unholyground]

You realize they don’t become something just because you’d like to dehumanize them to justify your own wanting to kill them. A 10 year old that beats their brother toddler to death is still 10 they aren’t a mythical monster.

Unfortunately if they have the capacity within them at that age to kill someone there are some real problems with them, they should be locked up for 25 years and analyzed for science.

[Themius]

Unfortunately if they have the capacity within them at that age to kill someone there are some real problems with them, they should be locked up for 25 years and analyzed for science.

That’s the thing they literally lack the capacity but you guys are taking the act as having.

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Giving them 15 years in prison before giving them the death penalty is fine tbh. Most dont mean kill them now. But they should be put away for a decent amount of time before their pathetic lives are ended. They will be adults by that time.

So “I want this child dead let him grow up first even if he is rehabilitated kill him for a crime he committed not as an adult with adult faculties but as a kid”

This is like saying if a kid steals something at age 10 loco them up and the. Charge them with harsher terms as an adult.

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yeah your crime rates in germany are just stellar huh?

this is pre meditated. a decision was made in their dumb little head to commit all of those crimes, all at separate times. i fully believe the intention was there. they wanted to act out the hoodling lifestyle that their favorite rapper talks about.

25 to life for the shooter, the other two can just go to juvenile detention until their 18.

You clearly have no idea what premeditated murder is.

[Raelbo]

Unfortunately if they have the capacity within them at that age to kill someone there are some real problems with them, they should be locked up for 25 years and analyzed for science.

You do realise that any kid at that age, if exposed to the right (or should I rather say wrong) influence, would have the capacity to kill. The only difference between you and 4 of those kids is that you weren't the poor, unlucky sod who drew that particular short straw. And don't try to delude yourself that it had absolutely to do with anything you can take credit for. It's basically down to a combination of luck and circumstance.