It time we call the Alt-Right what it is...A violent extremist movement

[Skroe]

Yes. Lets.

https://www.gao.gov/assets/690/683984.pdf

My take away from this thread (well, I had it before this thread) is that the War on Terror deeply psychologically damaged an entire generation of people, and technological/societal change accentuated the damage.

The Fear of Islamic Radicalism has so colonized these people's most fundamental thought processes, it's formed the foundation of an old-is-new-again Nativist and White Supremacist political philosophy.

Somewhere in hell, Osama bin Laden is toasting to his strategic victory. He may have lost Afghanistan and lost his life, but he triumphed over millions upon millions of Western young men who, through his action, he has brought about an equal and opposite reaction of the worst order. They revived the very worst part of the Western way.

[Alexeht]

The far right has more deaths on a clock.
You really don't want to play this game. Not after WW2.

WW2, where the right was the USA, and the left, was Nazi Germany and Communist Russia?

[Endus]

Big words from someone that can't see the deaths from of communism and socialism.

Oh look, utterly baseless assertions based on bullshit propaganda.

I've never disputed that regimes like Stalin's led to huge death tolls. I take a pretty firm stance against totalitarianism in general, in fact.

However, for the sake of argument, do you agree that there's huge numbers of deaths from capitalism, too, or do you hold a blatant double standard on the blaming of economic systems? Because it's one of the other. Either you can admit that capitalism shares a similar death toll, or you're abusing a double standard. So which is it?

[Skroe]

Here's a better question, how can someone who is trying to ask if someone serious or not have that pathetic bait of an avatar? Do you not take yourself seriously? Or is this all a play, and you're playing a character, pretending to be this raging meme of a leftist?

I take myself extremely seriously. Everything I do is serious at some level.

Also my Avatar was the cover to Der Spiegel, a major German Publication. It's a political commentary. An accurate one.

Here's a copy for you so you can make it your desktop wallpaper.



"America First"

*spit*

[Alexeht]

Yes. Lets.

https://www.gao.gov/assets/690/683984.pdf

Oh yeah, I forgot that radical Islamist are right-wing. Sorry my fault, let's ban everything.

[Skroe]

Far left is much more dangerous. Socialism causes countries to collapse, thats a bit more dangerous then a few shootings. I'd much rather have more incidents of shootings than a maniac like AOC gain power.

Utterly monstrous opinion.

Disgrace.

[sunxsera]

With comments like this and others like it i'm convinced that sadly there are too few smart people in the world.

Why?
Because i want these guys called extremists? Thats exactly what they are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIURXjVXzv0

[Blur4stuff]

A fair number of young white guys are being radicalized by places like T_D, /pol/, etc...

It's the same old story, though. These guys are having a hard time in life with both work and dating. Easiest thing to convince them of is that it's brown/black/other religion's fault.

[Skroe]

This came up last year during the MAGABomber and then the Squirel Hill Massacre.

Alt Right Leaders need to be monitored exactly like radical muslim leaders are. Their movements need to be restricted and certain members of the wider movement need to be put on the terrorist watch list.

Australia banning Milo is a good start. As are financial institutions cutting off support and social media banning. There needs to be more from law enforcement.

They are a major security threat and post-9/11 national security provisions need to be utilized against them. It is that simple.

[rrayy]

The thing is...There is no such thing as "alt-left". It literally does not exist.

LOL, the far left, which basically what alt-lkeft would be, does not exist? So I guess all those cop killing from people who claim to be apart of Black Lives Matter like in Dallas never happened?

I just laugh at people who try to sit there and claim the far left are innocent little angels.

[Zelk]

Hang on, massive warhawk and neoliberal Skroe is being called a communist now? You have to laugh.

[Skroe]

You fight socialism so hard, you shouldn't be surprised when you create people like Cruor.

There will always be people like Cruor. You think Nazism or Stalinism or the Cultural Revolution (China) or Juche (North Korea) was a single handed job?

Since World War II, Western society generally had a lock of offering its angry young men an avenue towards a more productive, tranquil, positive life. The game's changed though. One part of it is the War on Terror generation grew up, and now evidently think there is ISIS in every mosque, and on the other, economic change has just made it harder to get started in life for these young men.

[Elegiac]

This came up last year during the MAGABomber and then the Squirel Hill Massacre.

Alt Right Leaders need to be monitored exactly like radical muslim leaders are. Their movements need to be restricted and certain members of the wider movement need to be put on the terrorist watch list.

Australia banning Milo is a good start. As are financial institutions cutting off support and social media banning. There needs to be more from law enforcement.

They are a major security threat and post-9/11 national security provisions need to be utilized against them. It is that simple.

Considering they managed to infiltrate the highest ranks of the executive, I agree with this. Right wing extremists are far more of an existential threat to western values than any Islamist.

[rrayy]

I take myself extremely seriously. Everything I do is serious at some level.

Also my Avatar was the cover to Der Spiegel, a major German Publication. It's a political commentary. An accurate one.

Here's a copy for you so you can make it your desktop wallpaper.



"America First"

*spit*

NOt accurate at all. Nothign mre than leftist BS and hate slinging. Shows the true hypocrisy of the left..

[sunxsera]

Also my Avatar was the cover to Der Spiegel, a major German Publication. It's a political commentary. An accurate one.

Ohh ... not so accurate anymore i guess.

https://www.thelocal.de/20181221/sou...orgery-scandal
http://www.spiegel.de/international/...a-1244755.html

[Alexeht]

Aah yes, a "Nazism is leftwing" NPC.

*socialism is leftwing (and nazism = national socialism)

learn history mate

[Beet]

Sargon of Akkad isn’t alt right. You’d have to know absolutely nothing about him if you think he is. The alt right constantly fuck with him. You guys have to stop labeling anyone to the right of Bernie Sanders an alt right Nazi. It’s like Tim Pool who they call alt right too despite being closer to a socialist than a right winger.

And no, it isn’t up to these platforms to be ideological police. There’s a big difference between these people and the groups like ISIS labeled as such. For one, you can’t even name who all is in this group because there is no official group unlike ISIS. Plus the groups with this label actually call for violence. That has been the line in the sand. To my knowledge those people never have done this although I do admit to not knowing too much about Black Pidgeon or Joseph Watson.

Free speech is more than just an amendment in the US constitution. It’s also a fundamental right that most people believe in.

PS: Only one man you listed is alt right and that’s Spencer.

[Endus]

Oh yeah, I forgot that radical Islamist are right-wing. Sorry my fault, let's ban everything.

A> Well, they are. Pretty obviously.
B> That source distinguishes between right-wing and Islamic violence. And left-wing violence. Note that you won't find numbers for the latter in that source because there were no deaths due to left-wing violence in that time period. None.

Wow, so you don't blame the nazis for the holocaust? Weird flex.

Go on, quote me saying that. Because I didn't. You're just a liar who's baiting me.

Also if you can show me the numbers for the deaths of capitalism, I'd actually like to read about it.

Just by way of example; https://www.quora.com/What-has-kille...-or-capitalism

What you'll find is that nobody makes the argument that all those deaths were "due to capitalism". But that's because to do so would be to manufacture a bullshit propaganda piece, and there's nobody pushing that kind of campaign of disinformation against capitalism, these days. The same is not true of communism and socialism, because McCarthyist fearmongering never died in the USA. Those propaganda campaigns remained active, and have seen a resurgence recently. But they're still bullshit propaganda, applying double standards to lie to those who consume it.

Any analysis you make about the "deaths by communism", any similar methodology applied to "capitalism" will generate larger numbers. Not because capitalism is "worse", but simply because capitalist systems have existed longer, and in greater proportions of nations and their respective populations.

Worse, conflating Stalin and Mao's communist regimes and the client states derived from their models with the greater concepts of socialist theory? That's also bullshit, from the very beginning. Most Western nations have included some components of socialist theory in their economic structures since the Great Depression. Those systems are what stabilized those economies and allowed for the steady growth since that time. That's simple historical fact. Does this mean those countries aren't capitalist? Of course not. They're also to some degree socialist. This isn't a conflict, because capitalism and socialism are not opposing viewpoints. Basic stuff.

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*socialism is leftwing (and nazism = national socialism)

learn history mate

The silliest goddamned thing about this statement is that you're blindly believing Nazi propaganda and ignoring historical context, because you don't think the Nazis would have lied about anything.

That's literally the only way you could come to that conclusion.

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Hang on, massive warhawk and neoliberal Skroe is being called a communist now? You have to laugh.

Because either you're far-right, or you're left. That's their Overton window. It'd be funny if it weren't so goddamned sad.

[Zelk]

Sargon of Akkad isn’t alt right. You’d have to know absolutely nothing about him if you think he is. The alt right constantly fuck with him. You guys have to stop labeling anyone to the right of Bernie Sanders an alt right Nazi. It’s like Tim Pool who they call alt right too despite being closer to a socialist than a right winger.

And no, it isn’t up to these platforms to be ideological police. There’s a big difference between these people and the groups like ISIS labeled as such. For one, you can’t even name who all is in this group because there is no official group unlike ISIS. Plus the groups with this label actually call for violence. That has been the line in the sand. To my knowledge those people never have done this although I do admit to not knowing too much about Black Pidgeon or Joseph Watson.

Free speech is more than just an amendment in the US constitution. It’s also a fundamental right that most people believe in.

PS: Only one man you listed is alt right and that’s Spencer.

Carl benjamin can disavow the alt-right all he wants, he's still spreading the same views and conspiracy theories as they do. Only difference is he knows not to say the quiet part loud.

[Malaky]

"Everyone on the left lumps people into a big group."

Once again, let me know when you figure it out.

Obviously I meant the radical leftists, that fringe group who believes in intersectionality yet has no quarrels in betraying it.
What kind of doofus thinks "lol he meant 100% of the leftists! ridiculous!". Oh, right.