[Spoilers] Jaina.

[Dartz1979]

What about Thalyssra or Azshara? I though elves and tentacles were you thing as well

nah just jaina. alleria. sylvanas. yrel. tyrande. garona. alexstrasza and taelia.

[InTheEnd]

After flip flopping so many times between "Kill the Horde" and "Work with the Horde" that it seems like mental illness...she's flopped again. In Legion when the entire planet was about to be destroyed, she threw a hissy fit and AFK'd the entire expansion rather than ally with the Horde. Now in BFA, with the Horde actively genociding and trying to wipe out her people, we get this Jaina:

???: Hold on... Are you suggesting we lay down our arms and fight beside them? After all they've done?!
Jaina: No. Merely that we direct our efforts against Azshara instead of the Horde.

Jaina merely sees the bigger picture. How can the Alliance hope to defeat Azshara if they are focused on killing the Horde? Azshara and N'zoth are clearly the bigger threat in the long-term.

[Kokolums]

I have no idea what Jaina's personality is supposed to be at this point. She's all over the place. Its silly. I just look away.

[Qualia]

I have no idea what Jaina's personality is supposed to be at this point. She's all over the place. Its silly. I just look away.

After the event in Kul'Tiras & Baine's act mellowing Jaina's out, her view of the Horde has been pretty simple to be honest. She no longer blindly distrusts and hates every single Horde. Seems that she splits the Horde into three groups - those can be trusted and allied with as long as they don't fight against the Alliance (i.e: Thrall, Baine), those she doesn't completely trust, but can work together with while being cautious against (i.e: Lor'themar, Thalyssra, Saurfang - although these people are getting closer towards first group on Jaina's inner scale) and those need to be taken down unless new events unfold that let them somehow redeem themselves (i.e: Nathanos, Sylvanas). It's not really that all over the place.

[Zandalariprelate]

nah just jaina. alleria. sylvanas. yrel. tyrande. garona. alexstrasza and taelia.

Ohh I see, you have a very good taste then.

[Kokolums]

After the event in Kul'Tiras & Baine's act mellowing Jaina's out, her view of the Horde has been pretty simple to be honest. She no longer blindly distrusts and hates every single Horde. Seems that she splits the Horde into three groups - those can be trusted and allied with as long as they don't fight against the Alliance (i.e: Thrall, Baine), those she doesn't completely trust, but can work together with while being cautious against (i.e: Lor'themar, Thalyssra, Saurfang - although these people are getting closer towards first group on Jaina's inner scale) and those need to be taken down unless new events unfold that let them somehow redeem themselves (i.e: Nathanos, Sylvanas). It's not really that all over the place.

People that go radical as Jaina did almost never go back to normal. So any attempt to portray her as moderated is immediately viewed with ENORMOUS amounts of suspicion at BEST and terrible writing at WORST. As I said, she's all over the place.

Trying to serious sell me on her having a change of heart and abandoning her radical ways is outright terrible writing and deserves to get called out.

[Mehrunes]

You call me petulant? YOU? omg. I will not answer you because i know you are one of the mods protected posters, but i know you well to know what kind of person you are and how do you think to not even care to argue about you for anything.

I did not. I called your blatant straw-man petulant. Are you your straw-man now? I articulated both the remark itself and the reason behind it in plain English, so nothing should have confused you here. So it's all an act to deflect from the weakness of your argument. Just like the following pile of falsehoods and fallacies you made to avoid the argument while pretending you actually have any.

Yes I am. I don't buy the argument that Warcraft's storyline is a "ripoff" just because it borrows from other IP's. Is DnD a ripoff of Tolkien and CS Lewis?

Also, even if I agreed that it was a blatant ripoff, it doesn't take away from my enjoyment of it at all. Legion was fun. Wrath was fun. I love having big baddies to fight. This morally grey crap doesn't motivate me to progress at all.

DnD wasn't a LotR game in production and its makes didn't end up in a situation where they lost the rights to the IP but decided they already put too much work into their product to abandon it and continued with that. Also, you're overshooting here with Metzen's era. By the time of Legion it was long over.

[Overlordd]

After the event in Kul'Tiras & Baine's act mellowing Jaina's out, her view of the Horde has been pretty simple to be honest. She no longer blindly distrusts and hates every single Horde. Seems that she splits the Horde into three groups - those can be trusted and allied with as long as they don't fight against the Alliance (i.e: Thrall, Baine), those she doesn't completely trust, but can work together with while being cautious against (i.e: Lor'themar, Thalyssra, Saurfang - although these people are getting closer towards first group on Jaina's inner scale) and those need to be taken down unless new events unfold that let them somehow redeem themselves (i.e: Nathanos, Sylvanas). It's not really that all over the place.

I don't give a fuck on what Jaina's opinion is. She should be a kill on sight for all the treacherous bullshit she has gotten away with in the past.
I fucking HATE how the writers are forcing her narrative that she's the hero.

[Zandalariprelate]

I don't give a fuck on what Jaina's opinion is. She should be a kill on sight for all the treacherous bullshit she has gotten away with in the past.
I fucking HATE how the writers are forcing her narrative that she's the hero.

One day pal, one day that will happend, but for now we have to wait for Golden and Danuser to get out, Nathanos and Jaina are literally being showed in every place with giant power boost. Maybe the day we get another human slayer we can see the end of Jaina

[Overlordd]

One day pal, one day that will happend, but for now we have to wait for Golden and Danuser to get out, Nathanos and Jaina are literally being showed in every place with giant power boost. Maybe the day we get another human slayer we can see the end of Jaina

Who are we kidding. She'll either become neutral or die heroically like Varian.

[Zandalariprelate]

Who are we kidding. She'll either become neutral or die heroically like Varian.

I am fine with her dying heroically....if she is killed by a resurrected evil Daelin or Arthas finish the job to put more salt in the wound.

[Beerbill Society]

Illuminati Confirmed: Jaina is actually a Dreadlord and didn't intervene against the legion because that would be counter intuitive. After the legion invasion failed she restarted her master plan.