Will there be a WoW token?

[Xalvia]

Not defending anyone here but there has been some gold created from "thin air" in the long run. If you posted a token and it said the price is 180k, but it sold a couple of days later for 160k, you still got 180k for it, generating 20k from "thin air".

if this is true then fk tokens lol

any source?

[Erolian]

if this is true then fk tokens lol

any source?

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/18141101

The lesson here isn't to just decide it creates tons of gold but rather to notice that it both creates and removes gold depending on the direction of the market at the time. The more stable the token market is at the time the less it does in both directions

[In Ogres We Trust]

Not just the economy but the game aswell. You didn't see people riding on epic mounts often since they were pricey. Do you really think blizzard envisioned classic with everyone riding epic mounts and buying WoW tokens everytime they felt they were low on gold? Reality is, it's taking too much of the current WoW and throwing it into classic. It has no place and would ruin the pace of the game. Gold wasn't easy to farm and required professions, farming and help with others. They're not going to cater to the little recluses who want to play by themselves and when they need gold, just cough up $20 irl. They can try illegally via farmers, but they'll get banned.

a) They won't get banned and b) your argument doesn't have any merit.

[XDurionX]

if this is true then fk tokens lol

any source?

The price is locked when you auction the token, so from the time difference between buying and selling there are miniscule deviations, but this is absolutely negligible and the effects of rising and falling prices pretty much negate each other. It's not like tens of thousands of gold are magically injected into the economy with each sale.

[S2H]

Shouldn't be. Also, you can just buy it in regular anyways.

If it was, then you could also purchase its gold worth and ruin the classic market

[In Ogres We Trust]

I do get that about gold having to be earnd in game to buy tokens to sell. But the same is true about gold sellers. They ran bots and live farmers to earn gold to sell for real world money.

Blizzard did not like what this did to the game early on when gold was hard to get. The WoW token was not so much a "If you can't beat them then join them" solution as it was an acceptance that the game now no longer values gold... and they cna turn abuck without affecting the economy or the players' experience.

Another rational reason why they won;t introduce them into classic? Because they WANT players to go into BfA and earn gold/tokens.

One would think that they want the players to PLAY the game that they want to PLAY (instead of forcing people into the retail version of the game to just farm).

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People need to realise that this is a "new" game coming out, it's not an addition to the current game. There is no way to buy a token in Hearthstone, HoTS, Stacraft, Diablo ect.. Retail WoW is the only way to buy the token. Classic will be the same as Vanilla, no cash shop at all. Don't enjoy it? Play a Pay2Win game.

Bro... you'll access the game via the WoW client. In other words, it's not a separate game... it's a separate server type.

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Not defending anyone here but there has been some gold created from "thin air" in the long run. If you posted a token and it said the price is 180k, but it sold a couple of days later for 160k, you still got 180k for it, generating 20k from "thin air".

And if the price went up to 200k, the seller would receive 180k with 20k being DELETED from the game. In other words, the affect on the economy is negligible.

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Shouldn't be. Also, you can just buy it in regular anyways.

If it was, then you could also purchase its gold worth and ruin the classic market

Why should a Classic player be forced to play BfA (or any other expansion) to buy a token? This is such a stupid position to take that I'm having a hard time understanding why anyone would be against the token.

[S2H]

Being able to real money purchase gold in Classic would ruin the classic economy. Tokens were not in Classic.

That is unless Classic is a ploy to make more $ by allowing gold to be bought via tokens.

[Trend]

The token doesn’t create gold, just reallocates it. It wouldn’t cause inflation. Order hall missions that create thousands of gold worth of rewards per day creates inflation.

Yes and no. While you are correct in a very narrow view, if you look at the broader impact there would be more gold in the system because the token system incentivizes more people to farm more gold. I am sure there is some impact but I am unsure how much.

[RealRevChris]

Yes, there will be a token. It's in the retail game.

[TxAg]

Yes and no. While you are correct in a very narrow view, if you look at the broader impact there would be more gold in the system because the token system incentivizes more people to farm more gold. I am sure there is some impact but I am unsure how much.

This is a very good point.

[Ealyssa]

No token, it would inflate the prices of everything.

No it doesn't. Token don't creaet gold thus don't increase inflation.

[Shammyrock]

The reality is there is a wow token for classic because your sub is tied to retail. Making it sellable on classic is a stretch to me, mainly because it means Blizzard has to balance it vs Retail in two very different scales of economy, and how that's managed when Classic inevitably loses most of its initial player base and becomes more niche than retail.

[Alvito]

Once again, players BOUGHT gold in Classic.

Of course, but not because Blizzard wanted them to or supported it. In many cases it was a result of theft of some sort. It was also avoided by many due to the fact you risked your account doing it. If they created a new token for classic, which they would have to do, it would alter the flow of gold and also create 2 different tokens both on different sliding scales complicating how those are used for various other games and services.

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No it doesn't. Token don't creaet gold thus don't increase inflation.

It doesn't create gold it does put more gold into use though. Instead of somebody hording gold and not using it people buying gold with cash do so because they intend on using it and do. More buying and selling of goods with gold does alter prices so having more gold out there to purchase things alters prices.

[Sevarin]

A Classic player shouldn't be forced to play on the retail version of the game for a token.

youre not being forced to play anything. stop using the word forced. nobody is physically or mentally FORCING you to play a game at physical or metaphorical gunpoint. neither you, nor your friends, family, pets, etc, will be maimed or killed if you dont buy a token.

if spending 15 dollars a month is too much, you may wish to re-evaluate your life and/or living conditions. get a room mate if you have to.

Why should a Classic player be forced to play BfA (or any other expansion) to buy a token? This is such a stupid position to take that I'm having a hard time understanding why anyone would be against the token.

i dont like wow tokens in retail either. never have, thought it was a horrible idea from the start, still do. and again, you arent being FORCED to do anything. stop using that word.

you dont need tokens to play the game. yeah, you can save 15 whole dollars a month. i spend more than twice that on my phone bill every month, and i only make phone calls 3-4 times a month for a couple minutes each.

[Vyomesh2]

Adding a WoW Token would kill Classic in a heartbeat.
All the Hardcore #NOCHANGES guys would instantly pack up their bags and return to their Pservers.

Wether it is good for the game or not doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if it would have zero impact on the economy(but it's foolish to think it wouldn't. Come on)

The people who have been playing on Pservers, and who have been campaigning all these years for a Vanilla Server would Just quit, on the pure basis that this is so far removed from how Vanilla worked that they would quit on principale.

These are the bulk of Blizzard's future customers. They're not gonna risk it.

[xuros]

Again, you are another person who types before they think.

Lets imagine a scenario where blizzard does decide to add a WoW token for acquiring in game currency for irl dollars. What do you think social media/youtube would look like the next day? The amount of subscribers blizzard would lose the NEXT DAY from content creators telling their followers to quit classic and go back to private servers would literally kill classic.

You type before you think, next time take a bit of time before you reply....this goes for all of you.

So the sheep would be gone? Bye!

[Wries]

I think it would be good if they included it. Given how scarce gold was back then we're talking a token that would give you about 100g on a good day.

Principally you weren't supposed to buy gold for money back in Vanilla so yeah it would be wrong from the purist PoV. But.. well.. people did it. And Blizzard never ever solved it but instead it got worse and worse and those gold companies started trying to steal accounts.

I bet Blizzard will just try to be diligent in the beginning and really hard-punish anyone who are trying to buy/sell gold but a year in or so they won't feel compelled to have staff employed to do this all day long and just hope that the community is accepting of the token. Say they do it once Naxx has been cleared and use it as an excuse, an "unlock".

[Fascinate]

So the sheep would be gone? Bye!

Everyone would quit, the content creators are just an example of how blizzard would be getting bad PR.

Its just baffling how common sense this is to me and not others, OF COURSE blizzard isnt going to introduce a WoW token it would go down as one of the worst business decisions in gaming history. Not only that, but it would go against everything they have been doing the past two years in an attempt to re-create the gameplay from 2006. Allowing people to purchase in game gold for money straight up removes a large part of what vanilla WoW is. The economy discussion that is happening in this thread isnt even relevant, you need to think about blizzards goal with the project and if the token fits into that. Sure blizzard would LOVE to bank all those 5 dollar transactions the WoW token would gain them, but luckily blizzard knows its not worth it in the long run given how much it would change the core gameplay mechanics of vanilla WoW, not to mention the huge amount of people that would be turned off by its addition.

TLDR: Blizzard isnt dumb enough to introduce a WoW token into classic, we will be having gold farmers same as 2006.

[xuros]

Everyone would quit, the content creators are just an example of how blizzard would be getting bad PR.

Its just baffling how common sense this is to me and not others, OF COURSE blizzard isnt going to introduce a WoW token it would go down as one of the worst business decisions in gaming history. Not only that, but it would go against everything they have been doing the past two years in an attempt to re-create the gameplay from 2006. Allowing people to purchase in game gold for money straight up removes a large part of what vanilla WoW is. The economy discussion that is happening in this thread isnt even relevant, you need to think about blizzards goal with the project and if the token fits into that. Sure blizzard would LOVE to bank all those 5 dollar transactions the WoW token would gain them, but luckily blizzard knows its not worth it in the long run given how much it would change the core gameplay mechanics of vanilla WoW, not to mention the huge amount of people that would be turned off by its addition.

TLDR: Blizzard isnt dumb enough to introduce a WoW token into classic, we will be having gold farmers same as 2006.

No, they wouldn't. Yeah a few hundred maybe who can't think for themselves. If those asshole on youtube were that dominate wow right now would have far fewer players atm due to how many rag on the game day in and day out.

[Erolian]

I'd like to point out that with the subs tied together we actually do have an example of how this can and will play out. Basically in OSRS/RS3 their WoW token is called a bond. Before the oldschool version had them directly in game the players themselves organized exchange rates between the game and would trade say 1 gold on OSRS to get 6 gold on RS3 and vice versa. It involved trust and yes people were scammed but the point is that the WoW token will impact Classic no matter what because of this. There isn't a reason for WoW players to not offer the same service since a reputable person doing it makes small amounts of gold both ways its in their best interest to not scam other people and continue amassing wealth. By not including the token in classic you directly create a permanent market of people trying to transfer gold from classic to retail to pay for their sub and since gold is hard to come by in classic the reverse transaction is also going to be a viable market due to players wanting to skip the gold grind