DHS packs 900 people in a room for 125

[Machismo]

Apparently travelling to the us means you will get raped, have your kids taken away from you, then throne in a cell. No lol, I wouldn't do the same. Some people are smarter than others

Maybe people shouldn't be such authoritarian bigots... just a thought.

[ellieg]

Maybe people shouldn't be such authoritarian bigots... just a thought.

Maybe people shouldn't purposefully place themselves and their kids in shitty situations while knowing it's illegal lmao. You do you tho

[Machismo]

Maybe people shouldn't purposefully place themselves and their kids in shitty situations while knowing it's illegal lmao. You do you tho

Make them legal, problem solved.

I'll go ahead and stick with individual liberty, limited government, and the free markets. You guys can have your xenophobia, nationalism, and socialism. No thanks.

[ellieg]

Make them legal, problem solved.

I'll go ahead and stick with individual liberty, limited government, and the free markets. You guys can have your xenophobia, nationalism, and socialism. No thanks.

Let's just make everything legal so theres no crime haha

[Machismo]

Let's just make everything legal so theres no crime haha

Make actions that do not cause harm legal, great.

Make them legal, let them in, let them earn their keel, and let them survive/fail on their own.

[ellieg]

Make actions that do not cause harm legal, great.

Make them legal, let them in, let them earn their keel, and let them survive/fail on their own.

So theres no need to enforce the border at all? Just 100% open immigration would "not cause harm" ?

[Machismo]

So theres no need to enforce the border at all? Just 100% open immigration would "not cause harm" ?

If it were up to me, all property would be private property, and there would be no need at all for national borders.

Freedom is fucking wonderful, it's a shame you don't think so.

[ellieg]

If it were up to me, all property would be private property, and there would be no need at all for national borders.

Freedom is fucking wonderful, it's a shame you don't think so.

Different definition of freedom then. If you don't think we need borders, then no point carrying on with you. I wish you luck in life lol

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Maybe people shouldn't purposefully place themselves and their kids in shitty situations while knowing it's illegal lmao. You do you tho

It’s not illegal to apply for asylum and for any one who has a legit claim It’s Proabbly well worth the risk.

[Machismo]

Different definition of freedom then. If you don't think we need borders, then no point carrying on with you. I wish you luck in life lol

Feel free to use the one in the dictionary.

I think you simply want to be the oppressor, and consider that to be freedom.

[ellieg]

Feel free to use the one in the dictionary.

I think you simply want to be the oppressor, and consider that to be freedom.

In your ideal world, is there one global government? Or no government? Are people just peaceful and get along with eachother?

[Machismo]

In your ideal world, is there one global government? Or no government? Are people just peaceful and get along with eachother?

In my ideal world, government is voluntary, and based on personal participation, and not national boundaries.

I have no expectation that people will ever be peaceful.

[ellieg]

In my ideal world, government is voluntary, and based on personal participation, and not national boundaries.

I have no expectation that people will ever be peaceful.

So let's say me and the boys decide we dont like machismo. We form a terrorist group. What's stopping us?

[Machismo]

So let's say me and the boys decide we dont like machismo. We form a terrorist group. What's stopping us?

isn't that what you and your boys already did with Muslims and immigrants?

[ellieg]

isn't that what you and your boys already did with Muslims and immigrants?

Lol I've never done anything to muslims or immigrants.

So you dont have an answer? A volunteer government group would not be able to stop a terrorist group from forming. A world with no borders, volunteer government, where everyone respects eachother personal property, would never work. That's why I was saying different freedoms. You think absolute freedom is possible but it's not. People will abuse it.

[Machismo]

Lol I've never done anything to muslims or immigrants.

So you dont have an answer? A volunteer government group would not be able to stop a terrorist group from forming. A world with no borders, volunteer government, where everyone respects eachother personal property, would never work. That's why I was saying different freedoms. You think absolute freedom is possible but it's not. People will abuse it.

Except supporting the taking of their freedoms...

Terrorist groups form with nation states... so that argument doesn't make much sense. Let me know when all these nation states manage to get rid of terrorism, then you can use it as an example. Until then, I'd simply point right back to them.

I never said there would be no government, and never said everyone would respect everyone's property. I'm not an anarchist.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

you can apply for asylum without illegally entering a country

It’s not illegal, how are you not getting that?

[Tic Tacs]

Whenever I hear/see someone say "MSM" or any other Alt-Right/Fox News parroting point, I immediately have a difficult time accepting any remarks they make afterward as factual or intelligent.

MSM is a term which refers to mainstream media... how is this term remotely related to any specific political agenda?

[Masark]

MSM is a term which refers to mainstream media... how is this term remotely related to any specific political agenda?

The American right has a hardon about complaining about the "biased liberal media". Them calling things "MSM" is basically the predecessor to their more recent favourite words "lying press" and "fake news".

[I Push Buttons]

It’s not illegal, how are you not getting that?

He didn't say applying for asylum was illegal. He said they illegally entered the country, which they did.

Applying for asylum does not absolve someone of entering the country illegally. It merely means that their asylum claim will be processed during their detention and deportation proceedings.

'Seeking asylum does not make illegal entry into America legal':
https://thehill.com/opinion/immigrat...-america-legal

... Section 208 of the Immigration and Naturalization Act allows asylum claims to be made at any time, including as a criminal defendant for illegal entry. That does not mean that anyone claiming asylum automatically has legal status. That deals with your filing of a claim, not the legality of your entry or ultimate status. It is not illegal to seek asylum. It is illegal to do so without entering through a port of entry without documentation. Notably, even when treated through a civil removal proceeding, it remains an unlawful entry.