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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Frenegade42 View Post
    So do you want salad on something on the side with that crow pie?
    Like Cubans, Venezuelans will lean right and vote Republican.
    I'm a Drumpftard and I say the more Venezuelan migrants the better!
    hey thats fine i have no problem with more old schoool pro capitalist republicans.

    my problem is this tiny wing of the republican party online

    that follow people like jared taylor

    and if you dont know who jared taylor is i suggest looking him up...hes the only kind person i hate, since everyone says white supremacist is over used i dont want to classify him as that, so id like to research his work and tell me what the "proper" way to describe his beliefs are.

    I would d gladly respect some old school republicans like mitt romney mccain george bush and reagan compared to the new online right like jared taylor so i would love a more multi ethnic republican party, even though i think candance owens is dumb i also respect her alot for not being in the jared taylor wing as well.(well she cant be in that wing for obvious reasons)
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  2. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    What do all the 'lol socialism' people say when capitalism fails?
    "It's not real capitalism."

  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Dundebuns View Post
    Definitely. The US caused most of the issues they are suffering through unwarranted sanctions and political interfering. Time to face the consequences.
    Venezuela was a one trick pony and the value of that trick went down by 75% if a short span of time. You can blame the US for a lot of the problems in Latin America but not for Venezuela.

  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrt View Post
    A Marxist would want to abolish government entirely.

    You're confusing Marx with Stalin.
    Not at all, Marxism-Leninism is Marxist in name only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    What do all the 'lol socialism' people say when capitalism fails?
    We'll get to you when it fails as spectacularly as anything else.

  6. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Najnaj View Post
    Venezuela was a one trick pony and the value of that trick went down by 75% if a short span of time. You can blame the US for a lot of the problems in Latin America but not for Venezuela.
    Venezuela is in the unfortunate position of having its economy tied to the status of the Middle-East. Venezuela's oil is abundant, but it's also shitty oil sand that requires a lot of effort to extract, unlike Middle-Eastern oil which can just be pumped out of the ground. If the Middle-East is on bad terms with the US, like during the 1970s, early 1990s, 2000s and 2010s, the US can't buy cheap oil from them, so they buy from Venezuela instead, which causes Venezuela's economy to skyrocket. But then when the Middle-East and the US make up, the US stops buying Venezuelan oil, causing their economy to plummet.

    This has nothing to do with which ideology rules in Venezuela, and everything to do with them having a lot of shitty oil that has to compete with a lot of good oil from the Middle-East.

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Alteiry View Post
    Venezuela is in the unfortunate position of having its economy tied to the status of the Middle-East. Venezuela's oil is abundant, but it's also shitty oil sand that requires a lot of effort to extract, unlike Middle-Eastern oil which can just be pumped out of the ground. If the Middle-East is on bad terms with the US, like during the 1970s, early 1990s, 2000s and 2010s, the US can't buy cheap oil from them, so they buy from Venezuela instead, which causes Venezuela's economy to skyrocket. But then when the Middle-East and the US make up, the US stops buying Venezuelan oil, causing their economy to plummet.

    This has nothing to do with which ideology rules in Venezuela, and everything to do with them having a lot of shitty oil that has to compete with a lot of good oil from the Middle-East.
    The dependency on oil thing is Chavez and Maduro apologia tbh. Inflation in Venezuela started to increase really fast in 2012, you can find reports about goods like toilet paper running out when the price of the barrel was above 100$ and no other oil dependent country has fallen as hard as Venezuela did and they started to recover when prices picked up again but Venezuela is still in decline.

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Alteiry View Post
    Venezuela is in the unfortunate position of having its economy tied to the status of the Middle-East. Venezuela's oil is abundant, but it's also shitty oil sand that requires a lot of effort to extract, unlike Middle-Eastern oil which can just be pumped out of the ground. If the Middle-East is on bad terms with the US, like during the 1970s, early 1990s, 2000s and 2010s, the US can't buy cheap oil from them, so they buy from Venezuela instead, which causes Venezuela's economy to skyrocket. But then when the Middle-East and the US make up, the US stops buying Venezuelan oil, causing their economy to plummet.

    This has nothing to do with which ideology rules in Venezuela, and everything to do with them having a lot of shitty oil that has to compete with a lot of good oil from the Middle-East.
    Are you sure you are replying to the right post?

  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Rainbow Capitalist View Post
    The dependency on oil thing is Chavez and Maduro apologia tbh. Inflation in Venezuela started to increase really fast in 2012, you can find reports about goods like toilet paper running out when the price of the barrel was above 100$ and no other oil dependent country has fallen as hard as Venezuela did and they started to recover when prices picked up again but Venezuela is still in decline.
    The dependency is self-inflicted, though. One of the reasons why I despise Chavez and Maduro is precisely because they bet everything on oil - really fucking shitty oil, at that - instead of diversifying the Venezuelan economy like any sane individual would.

    But what would you expect from a former army man who has no clue how the oil industry works, or a former bus driver who thinks he's the second coming of Josef Stalin?

  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Alteiry View Post
    Venezuela is in the unfortunate position of having its economy tied to the status of the Middle-East. Venezuela's oil is abundant, but it's also shitty oil sand that requires a lot of effort to extract, unlike Middle-Eastern oil which can just be pumped out of the ground. If the Middle-East is on bad terms with the US, like during the 1970s, early 1990s, 2000s and 2010s, the US can't buy cheap oil from them, so they buy from Venezuela instead, which causes Venezuela's economy to skyrocket. But then when the Middle-East and the US make up, the US stops buying Venezuelan oil, causing their economy to plummet.

    This has nothing to do with which ideology rules in Venezuela, and everything to do with them having a lot of shitty oil that has to compete with a lot of good oil from the Middle-East.
    They have both. Oil Sand (Orinoco Belt) and conventional oil. The biggest problem with their oil sand is that, unlike the Canadian oil sand, they are buried to deep for surface mining. So far no one has bothered to try to access Venezuelan oil sand yet.

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