Originally Posted by
Slant
"I never said they're entiteld, but really they're practically refugees, because everyone who is poor is a refugee from poverty" etc.
WW2 established the concept of refugees IN WARTIMES or AS A RESULT OF WAR and the convention was a tool to legalise the massive back and forth in Europe due to the new borders. Mostly, because nobody had a clue how to verify where everyone was from. We've had millions of Germans driven out of former Prussia by the Russians and other people moved east and it was pretty chaotic without any kind of administration to oversee it all... those are the precedents. The convention is not and never was aimed to allow poor people to move into rich countries. That's beyond the scope of the Geneva convention.
That most people have no clue what the difference between wartime refugee, political asylum seeker and (economic) migrant is doesn't change the fact that these terms have specific meanings and specific legal status and consequences attached to them.
So no, these guys are not entitled to move into Europe just like that. I don't give a shit if they starve to death. I don't pretend to be a saint. I will happily oblige laws and help whenever it is reasonable. But what's happening now isn't reasonable. I have always maintained that Syrian refugees is one thing, but that doesn't mean Eritreans should take it as a general invitation to just go and waltz into Europe. They can apply for visas and permits like everyone else. And people like you need to research the shit you're posting here.
Instead of wasting money on boats and spoonfeeding migrants in Europe (on top of spoonfeeding actual refugees), we shouold spend the money to fix their countries. Alas, they keep blowing themselves up constantly. So at this time perhaps it's time to let evolution run its course.