Rolling on lockboxes

[demonyaa]

I can't think of an argument for why a rogue should roll Need.

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Explain why.

Because the group can't open the chest without the rogue. Its the same thing as a mining node being a miner's property, you don't ask miners to roll for the ores they get inside a dungeon right?

Lockboxes are portable, everyone rolls greed and whomever wins can get a rogue to open them (do tip them, its nice), either in the instance or outside.

[MisterBigglez]

Any form of chest or lockbox should be rolled for. As a rogue myself, ill always unlock locked chests to the winner and if someone gets a lockbox, provided I can open it, ill open it for them. Thats the perk they get for bringing me. Just like how bringing a class with a buff can buff us as their perk, or hand out free food and water.

I did see one rogue need on a lockbox and said he needed so he could level it up. Noone bought his shit and called him out on it.

[jellmoo]

sure, I'm rolling then on all herbs, minerals, skins and enchanting shards acquired by the group

So the expectation is for other classes to provide their perks to the group but Rogues don't have to share literally the one extra thing that they can possibly bring to the group?

[Fearlof]

sure, I'm rolling then on all herbs, minerals, skins and enchanting shards acquired by the group





i dont care, if you want warrior over rogue for dps thats fine with me, its your party your rules, i had no problems getting into groups tho

I dont mind having rogues in my grp, because on my realm they are mature enough to share So Im also quite fine with that thanks sir.

[demonyaa]

No, everyone rolls for it.

Lockboxes and locked chests are not the Rogue's property, unlocking them is a service they provide to the group, like a Mage giving out water/food or portals after the instance is over (which costs the mage 40s so be grateful when they do it).

Wrong. Locked chests either belong to the rogue or to an engineer whom can open them, same thing as mining nodes or herbs, they belong to whomever can open them.

[MisterBigglez]

Because the group can't open the chest without the rogue. Its the same thing as a mining node being a miner's property, you don't ask miners to roll for the ores they get inside a dungeon right?

Yes actually, i've had two miners roll for the nodes. Skinning on the other hand always seems to be a ffa.

[Fearlof]

Wrong. Locked chests either belong to the rogue or to an engineer whom can open them, same thing as mining nodes or herbs, they belong to whomever can open them.

So a blacksmith isnt allowed with his skeleton key? Fail logic bro.

¤Note for myself¤ Dont give out free water and food, remember they have to pay for it.

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Yes actually, i've had two miners roll for the nodes. Skinning on the other hand always seems to be a ffa.

Because skins are less valuable.

[demonyaa]

But the rogue is entitled to my healing? The Mage's food? The Warlock's summon? The Paladin's Buff? Rogues bring NOTHING of utility to a raid except lock picking. The least they can do is provide something of value.

Rogues bring damage and CC.

Clearly you dislike rogues and feel that their lockpicking skill is really the group's lockpicking skill, its not, it's theirs.

PS: I am not and never was a rogue.

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So a blacksmith isnt allowed with his skeleton key? Fail logic bro.
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they belong to whomever can open them.
whomever

Fail at reading comprehension, "bro"?

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Yes actually, i've had two miners roll for the nodes. Skinning on the other hand always seems to be a ffa.

Miners roll between themselves. If you have two rogues they also need to roll between themselves.

My point, which you certainly understood but are trying to throw a curve ball, is that non miners don't roll for mining nodes, just treat the locked chest as a resource node, because its just what it is.

[Firedemon]

Should enchanters roll need on items that no one needs and keep the shards/crystals and not distribute them at the end based on rolls?

[MisterBigglez]

So a blacksmith isnt allowed with his skeleton key? Fail logic bro.

¤Note for myself¤ Dont give out free water and food, remember they have to pay for it.

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Because skins are less valuable.

and yet it makes the most money, at least while leveling

[Djdizzy]

Eh. If the rogue treats it as his, just kick him from the group. He isn't entitled to the shared xp of the dungeon.

[Trbn]

Rogues bring damage and CC.

Clearly you dislike rogues and feel that their lockpicking skill is really the group's lockpicking skill, its not, it's theirs.

PS: I am not and never was a rogue.

when you come into group all your skills and abilities are party skills

simple

[jellmoo]

Rogues bring damage and CC.

Clearly you dislike rogues and feel that their lockpicking skill is really the group's lockpicking skill, its not, it's theirs.

PS: I am not and never was a rogue.

Mages bring damage and CC. They also bring a buff, consumables and portals. Bringing a Mage along lets the group have access to these fun perks.

Rogues have exactly one fun perk. They should share it with the rest of the group too.

[Lord Pebbleton]

And I cant carry a skeleton key to the dungeon?

Yes. Why shouldn't you? What do you mean?

EDIT: Oh I get it, you were talking about the locked chests there. Fair enough.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

Player reputation in Classic WoW matters. The people you group with are all on your server. If you want to earn a reputation as the rogue that thinks all locked chests belong to him...don't be surprised when your LFG calls go unanswered.

[Agrossive]

Too many entitled teenagers playing classic. All locked chest have always been rolled on for the 10 years I've played wow, and not once did a rogue ever claim that it should be theres alone. Why is this a question all of a sudden? Rogues are supposed to feel good that they can help the group and unlock things.

[Finear]

So the expectation is for other classes to provide their perks to the group but Rogues don't have to share literally the one extra thing that they can possibly bring to the group?

if i have to share my perk then you have to share yours

[Trbn]

just ask finear what is his server and name, so we could avoid him

[jellmoo]

if i have to share my perk then you have to share yours

Yes. This is why Mages share food/water and offer portals, Warlocks hand out health stones, those that can buff offer buffs, etc... These classes have perks that they can share other than just role related stuff. The perk that Rogues bring the group is the ability to open locked things.

[Rotted]

Everyone should roll, atleast thats how we used to do it.

Same as if a blue BoP drops and no one needs it - if you have an enchanter the enchanter de's it and everyone rolls for the shard.