The breed of peace strikes... again

[Freighter]

Article 257 is the correct article - it says OR a fine. Loss of a finger does not constitute as possible death.
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No, it's not the correct article. 258 is.

Also, the animal shouldn't die, as there would be no reason to stick your whole hand into a mail slot - so the whole thing is suspect to begin with.

Any animal that attacks any human should die.

Reading comprehension must be hard.

Indeed, for those who doesn't understand what Preceding paragraph applies to a person who injures another and causes them to be crippled, incurably or hopelessly diseased means. You lose function in the hand, you cannot replace a finger that was lost. That falls under article 258. Article 257 covers things like bruises, cuts that will heal easily with no long-lasting degrading of function, burns that aren't severe, broken bones that will heal, punching someone in the face and causing a nosebleed and such things. Not the loss of digits on extremities, that falls under article 258.

[Self Inflicted Wounds]

No, it's not the correct article. 258 is.



Indeed, for those who doesn't understand what Preceding paragraph applies to a person who injures another and causes them to be crippled, incurably or hopelessly diseased means.

That is again the wrong section - as losing a finger isn't fatal, and they can be easily reattached these days... so again, that is the wrong paragraph.

Again, this didn't happen in Korea.

Again, the whole thing is suspect because you don't need to stick your whole hand into a mail slot. Your illogical hatred of dogs doesn't override these facts.

[Freighter]

That is again the wrong section - as losing a finger isn't fatal, and they can be easily reattached these days... so again, that is the wrong paragraph.

You seriously need to work on understanding the text laid out before you. It doesn't need to be fatal.

[Orange Joe]

If I caused someone to lose a finger I would certainly go to prison. I don't see why someone should be absolved of being held responsible for their animals. The animal should die as well.

How did she lose a finger? Only possible way is for her to be sticking her hand INSIDE the door. Which is not needed to deliver mail. Maybe she should take responsibility for her own actions.

[Freighter]

How did she lose a finger? Only possible way is for her to be sticking her hand INSIDE the door. Which is not needed to deliver mail. Maybe she should take responsibility for her own actions.

Losing a finger is not the punishment for that even if her intent was to steal, a fine or prison is. Animals that attack humans should be put down, no matter the circumstances.

[Orange Joe]

Losing a finger is not the punishment for that even if her intent was to steal, a fine or prison is. Animals that attack humans should be put down.

IF it were a random attack. Sure. For protecting his house? Hell no. That is part of what dogs are suppose to do.

[Freighter]

IF it were a random attack. Sure. For protecting his house? Hell no. That is part of what dogs are suppose to do.

Hell yes. Animals that attack humans should not be allowed to live.

[Katie N]

How many dogs have you had? Not every people live in Vietnam where you might have trouble with stray dogs and lack of education when it comes to taking care of dogs. Maybe such case gives people issues against dogs. Also, cats also attack humans - kill'em all?

Doesn't matter. What does where I live have to do with anything? Do you think people in other countries are perfect at controlling their dogs? They're not. They've just not been in a circumstance where the dog will attack someone and they have no way to control them. That's not due to their skill at controlling the dog.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_..._United_States

Fatal dog attacks in the United States are rare, although non-fatal dog bites are not unusual. Typically, between 30 and 50 people in the US die from dog bites each year,[1] and the number of deaths from dog attacks appear to be increasing.[2] Around 4.5 million Americans are bitten by dogs every year, resulting in the hospitalization of 6,000 to 13,000 people each year in the United States (2005).[2] Dog bites can cause pain, injury, infection, and even death. About 1 in 5 dog bites requires medical attention.

[I Push Buttons]

How did she lose a finger? Only possible way is for her to be sticking her hand INSIDE the door. Which is not needed to deliver mail. Maybe she should take responsibility for her own actions.

Sure it is depending on what kind of mail slot he had... I see mail sticking out of mail slots all the time where its just jammed in there, leaving the slot open, creating an opening for bugs to get in the house, for water to get in if its raining and/or for the mail to be damaged in such cases. The only way the mail would clear being stuck there is if it is forcefully pushed all the way, such that it clears the slot and the force holding it there. And that's just with normal slots... There are other slots with little lips on them that would make such a problem even worse.

Unless you are hyper-vigilant and instantly pull your fingers away the second the mail clears the slot, they are probably going in if you forcefully push mail through a slot.

IF it were a random attack. Sure. For protecting his house? Hell no. That is part of what dogs are suppose to do.

It wasn't protecting his house... The dog owner was negligent. If you have a mail slot you are literally inviting people to open it and place things through it. It is 100% unreasonably careless not to have a cage around your mail slot if you own a shit bull.

[Orange Joe]

Hell yes. Animals that attack humans should not be allowed to live.

Animals that protect their masters and home, should definitely be allowed to live.

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Sure it is depending on what kind of mail slot he had... I see mail sticking out of mail slots all the time where its just jammed in there, leaving the slot open, creating an opening for bugs to get in the house, for water to get in if its raining and/or for the mail to be damaged in such cases. The only way the mail would clear being stuck there is if it is forcefully pushed all the way, such that it clears the slot and the force holding it there. And that's just with normal slots... There are other slots with little lips on them that would make such a problem even worse.

Unless you are hyper-vigilant and instantly pull your fingers away the second the mail clears the slot, they are probably going in if you forcefully push mail through a slot.



It wasn't protecting his house... The dog owner was negligent. If you have a mail slot you are literally inviting people to open it and place things through it. It is 100% unreasonably careless not to have a cage around your mail slot if you own a shit bull.

I don't think you know what that word means.

Mail slots are just like mail boxes ONLY INTENDED for post office use.

[Matiketope]

Doesn't matter. What does where I live have to do with anything? Do you think people in other countries are perfect at controlling their dogs? They're not. They've just not been in a circumstance where the dog will attack someone and they have no way to control them. That's not due to their skill at controlling the dog.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_..._United_States

Fatal dog attacks in the United States are rare, although non-fatal dog bites are not unusual. Typically, between 30 and 50 people in the US die from dog bites each year,[1] and the number of deaths from dog attacks appear to be increasing.[2] Around 4.5 million Americans are bitten by dogs every year, resulting in the hospitalization of 6,000 to 13,000 people each year in the United States (2005).[2] Dog bites can cause pain, injury, infection, and even death. About 1 in 5 dog bites requires medical attention.

Welcome to Finland. And yes, it sure matters where you're from to have such an opinion. Read more culture, history and current situations of every nation where it comes to dogs.

Sure we'd rather have such trolls like you being eliminated first, but we let you live also just because of reason and justice. And love for the weaker species. <3

[Infraction]

[StayTuned]

Don't stick your finger in the mail slot, huh?

That's some pretty big victim blaming right here. I'm proud of you, mmoc!

[Puzzlesocks]

Everyone complaining about dogs made me think of this, specifically time: 1:00 til 1:45

[Socialhealer]

Fine should be way more than 2k for a loss of earnings depression anxiety and loss of a finger.

[PACOX]

Losing a finger is not the punishment for that even if her intent was to steal, a fine or prison is. Animals that attack humans should be put down, no matter the circumstances.

If that's the scenario that went down then the dog did its job. It was protecting its masters home from a strange threat. You can't fault the dog for a person being stupid.

[ParanoiD84]

Good dog protecting it's home. That breed you talk about btw is one of the best they are just amazing.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Says every dog owner until they no longer can control it when it attacks someone.

Do you think every dog attacks some one eventually?

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Doesn't matter. What does where I live have to do with anything? Do you think people in other countries are perfect at controlling their dogs? They're not. They've just not been in a circumstance where the dog will attack someone and they have no way to control them. That's not due to their skill at controlling the dog.

Actually it has every thing to do with your skill at controlling a dog. Though training and conditioning you can eliminate circumstances where a untrained dog would attack some one. Even if you can’t eliminate all of them keeping your dog out of such circumstances that aren’t covered is you directly controlling your dog.

[Powerogue]

I'm not against having the dog put down in this circumstance, but banning the whole breed seems extreme.

[Pony Soldier]

All you people demanding that pitbulls be banned and even killed and saying they have no place in this society are probably the same people who support illegals coming into our country and are against the death penalty. You people will claim that life is precious and all that bullshit but here you are demanding that these dogs be killed because it was protecting it's home. Dogs are instinctual animals like wolves, their ancestors. You trespass their domain they're going to take it as an offense. In their eyes you don't belong there so they're going to do whatever it takes to secure its territory. Unless you're smart enough to ease up to the dog and not just walk straight up to it and start fucking around with it.

If not trained properly things like this will happen. Don't blame the dog, blame the owner. People are quick to judge these dogs and call them things like "disgusting animals" but they seem to never understand dogs and their behavior. They just see a dog biting someone and it deserving to be punished because it's obviously a menace to society and deserves to die.

When your kids hurt themselves playing on the playground do you blame the city or do you ask them what they were doing?

[Orange Joe]

All you people demanding that pitbulls be banned and even killed and saying they have no place in this society are probably the same people who support illegals coming into our country and are against the death penalty. You people will claim that life is precious and all that bullshit but here you are demanding that these dogs be killed because it was protecting it's home. Dogs are instinctual animals like wolves, their ancestors. You trespass their domain they're going to take it as an offense. In their eyes you don't belong there so they're going to do whatever it takes to secure its territory. Unless you're smart enough to ease up to the dog and not just walk straight up to it and start fucking around with it.

If not trained properly things like this will happen. Don't blame the dog, blame the owner. People are quick to judge these dogs and call them things like "disgusting animals" but they seem to never understand dogs and their behavior. They just see a dog biting someone and it deserving to be punished because it's obviously a menace to society and deserves to die. When your kids hurt themselves playing on the playground do you blame the city or do you ask them what they were doing?

Just to show you how ignorant your view is.

I don't think this dog should be put down. imo it did what it's suppose to do. I'm also fine with pitbulls as a breed.

I'm not against "illegals" coming into this country. It's how we grow as a country I'm all for making it easier for them to be legal.
I'm against the death penalty. Our justice system makes too many mistake. That is one mistake you can't reverse.