frost, warrior, holy priest and combat need to be nerfed

[Malikath]

LOL for a moment i thought i was on retail subforum. I had to double check (>_<)

yeah, that's something that never actually changed.

[HordeFanboy]

https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/zon...1000#class=DPS

https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/zon...#class=Healers

These specs are ridiculously overtuned. Classes like hunter, paladin, druid and shaman have absolutely no chance at performing on a viable level. I understand people want no changes but if the tuning looks this bad (PS this tuning is worse than BFA) then I do not understand why the game is getting so much praise.

It's a shame when half of the classes in the game are not viable. I think of this as an absolute development failure.

No changes. If you cant beat them join them

[draynay]

Thanks for choosing the name "Poe" so I know not to take this seriously.

[Vakir]

Why are people so easily baited?

[clevin]

Silly blather....

No. Go back to retail.

[Octa]

The fact that he never posted in the thread again is a dead giveaway lol

[NihilSustinet]

https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/zon...1000#class=DPS

https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/zon...#class=Healers

These specs are ridiculously overtuned. Classes like hunter, paladin, druid and shaman have absolutely no chance at performing on a viable level. I understand people want no changes but if the tuning looks this bad (PS this tuning is worse than BFA) then I do not understand why the game is getting so much praise.

It's a shame when half of the classes in the game are not viable. I think of this as an absolute development failure.

main tank healing isnt about throughput, so druids might not show up as the the highest HPS healing class, but they are the best main tank healer in the game by far, every raid should have 3-4 of them. hunters have a place for their utility, so do warlocks and shaman. this argument is definitely coming from the standpoint of a bfa player who cannot grasp that any class has any use outside of raw throughput.

[TigTone]

If anything retribution dps needs to be nerfed.

I was promised a LOL pathetic dps experience.
So far things don’t take long to die unless it’s something 3 levels higher.

I demand change.

[Ozyorkbourne]

https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/zon...1000#class=DPS

https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/zon...#class=Healers

These specs are ridiculously overtuned. Classes like hunter, paladin, druid and shaman have absolutely no chance at performing on a viable level. I understand people want no changes but if the tuning looks this bad (PS this tuning is worse than BFA) then I do not understand why the game is getting so much praise.

It's a shame when half of the classes in the game are not viable. I think of this as an absolute development failure.

No changes bro.

Enjoy the Classic experience.

[Frozenbro]

Yeah,look at this average guild and their average raid composition

I mean who the fuck is method anyway? probably some other mid-range raiding guild

Are you actually aware that the guy i quoted referred to BFA having worse tuning than classic in terms of spec stacking? when not even the world first shows this.

[Drusin]

People wanted classic, they're getting classic. And all the "balance" that comes with it.

/thread

Bro I want classic classes to be tinkered with too, someone even made a comment somewhere that I thought would have been a good idea. They said "in the spirit of classic" and it made me think that maybe a wow done "in the spirit of classic" would have been cool where more specs could have been viable. And it wouldn't have to be many changes; give prot paladins a taunt, give druids an out of combat rez, stuff like that. But I'm happy with how classic is #noChanges.

[Quinraylo]

Yeah no changes at all its classic for a reason . If you want those spec to be play able go to retail .

[Methodd]

In the event this isn't a troll, classes bring more to groups and raids outside of raw numbers. Every class is viable and needed in classic in all content. This simple concept is pretty lost on modern retail players.

Retail is just boiled down to a simple numbers game at this point, and no classes have any bring any unique flavor outside of it. That's why you see the exact same classes for the MDI. It's incredibly boring.

[shadowmatrix]

In the event this isn't a troll, classes bring more to groups and raids outside of raw numbers. Every class is viable and needed in classic in all content. This simple concept is pretty lost on modern retail players.

Retail is just boiled down to a simple numbers game at this point, and no classes have any bring any unique flavor outside of it. That's why you see the exact same classes for the MDI. It's incredibly boring.

And you will see the same thing in classic. Everyone looks at the front runners and copies them, that is a player issue that isn't going to change.

[Adoxe]

Bro, it's classic, nothing's being changed. The fuck's wrong with you?

[Cracked]

if you gonna rag on healers, at least post the healing done, not dps

https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/zon...000#metric=hps

[Hey There Guys its Metro]

I am surprised there wasn't some tuning, but I am now sure they have done this on purpose, giving us the raw version to almost rub it in our faces.
I am glad you point out that its worse than BFA though.
That is something that can be said a lot when making comparisons, and I believe that is exactly what Blizzard wanted us to notice.
Sadly.

[Daffan]

Gonna post the expected #nochanges before some1 else does, gotta keep the meme alive.

Lmao. Can't believe so many normies got convinced by the twitch streamers who knew nothing about the game. Now we got raid tiers worse than LFR.

Paladin, Druid, and Shaman all have to pay the Hybrid Tax.

Nah. They are paying the elitist developer tax. Everyone knew that the devs came from EQ and hated Hybrids there too.

[shaunika123]

If you're going to obsess over logs,parses and DPS meters,I don't think Classic is the game for you.

Of course the tuning is worse than BfA,BfA has some of the best tuning WoW ever had,while classic wasn't even trying to be a 100% streamlined esport ready game,that's just not what the game was about

joke of the year right here.

you mean the tuning where every MDI group takes 3 rogues?

or the ridiculous class stacking required to down mythic bosses? (notable shadow priests atm for example)

you can do MC with 40 paladins if you wanted, so the balance doesnt matter in the slightest

[arkanon]

https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/zon...1000#class=DPS

https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/zon...#class=Healers

These specs are ridiculously overtuned. Classes like hunter, paladin, druid and shaman have absolutely no chance at performing on a viable level. I understand people want no changes but if the tuning looks this bad (PS this tuning is worse than BFA) then I do not understand why the game is getting so much praise.

It's a shame when half of the classes in the game are not viable. I think of this as an absolute development failure.

I agree that in 2004, this was a development failure. This time around, it is EXACTLY what every said they wanted - BEGGED for it. Why change it now?