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    So, more than a month after launch all of 6 out of 36 EU realms don't have layering? And you're saying phase 2 by the end of the year!? I had figured the first 2 phases would come out quickly. Like we would get to bg's relatively soon after launch, and then roll the last 3 phases out a little slower. How long do they plan on dragging this out or are they stuck because of the layering decision? He says it will end in a matter of weeks, but that list doesn't look near long enough.

  2. #42
    All I wanted was the bickering to stop. Once Blizzard announced they were gonna do Classic, I no longer had a horse in the race, and stopped investing in it (And I really only was going by what Blizzard themselves were saying, not that it was bad to want it). I figured, hey, now both sides get the game they want, and the arguing and slap fights would stop.

    Boy, was I wrong. It only got worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McNeil View Post
    New classic thread on the news page, BFA fans are triggered, nothing new to see here.
    Yeah, nothing like Classic fans, who are always so mature and composed, only using true facts and stats straight from Blizzard to prove the superiority of "their" game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadzooks View Post
    All I wanted was the bickering to stop. Once Blizzard announced they were gonna do Classic, I no longer had a horse in the race, and stopped investing in it (And I really only was going by what Blizzard themselves were saying, not that it was bad to want it). I figured, hey, now both sides get the game they want, and the arguing and slap fights would stop.

    Boy, was I wrong. It only got worse.
    It's intolerable sometimes.
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  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Finear View Post
    yeah not really, most of my friends who came back after looong breaks for classic are playing retail now instead
    Really? Today on my end it looked like 80% of my WoW playing friendlist have been logged into classic. I neither play classic nor BfA...so I'm strictly neutral on that one.
    I expected the numbers to crumble way faster and am seriously surprised. I'd like to see how shocked they are at Blizz headquarters about that success...and watch them figure out how to deal with it now and work with it in the future(cause it's saying a lot about retail and that something went wrong there. Possibly too many time sinks and too much monetarization while ruining any sense of community and "achievement". But that is just my opinion.).
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    Why is there so much hatred for Retail vs Classic? I play on Retail mainly and play Classic sometimes, and I don’t think you have to concentrate on Classic only just for proving the love. They are both official WoW.

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Pacster View Post
    Really? Today on my end it looked like 80% of my WoW playing friendlist have been logged into classic. I neither play classic nor BfA...so I'm strictly neutral on that one.
    I expected the numbers to crumble way faster and am seriously surprised. I'd like to see how shocked they are at Blizz headquarters about that success...and watch them figure out how to deal with it now and work with it in the future(cause it's saying a lot about retail and that something went wrong there. Possibly too many time sinks and too much monetarization while ruining any sense of community and "achievement". But that is just my opinion.).
    It's taking people awhile to hit max, but once you're there, there's like nothing to do honestly. We actually kind of went back to retail til the next FF patch because we hit 60, did MC and Ony and the end game dungeons a bunch and after that there is zero to do.

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Ozbaab View Post
    And how exactly do you know this? You're just pulling numbers and estimates from your ass like everyone else around here.

    "as it seems people only have an account active right now because of classic" - like, seriously who the fuck do you think you are pulling comments like this?
    Classic is drawing in more new players than retail. Classic doesn't need cross server layering to survive. Classic bas almost all of their servers staying at high or full now.

    The only people that don't like classic are the ones who just like pooing on something they aren't good at. I'm sorry.

  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Bunchie View Post
    Classic is drawing in more new players than retail. Classic doesn't need cross server layering to survive. Classic bas almost all of their servers staying at high or full now.

    The only people that don't like classic are the ones who just like pooing on something they aren't good at. I'm sorry.
    Do you have any idea how many more servers there are in retail? NA has like 200 servers alone.

  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Nask View Post
    Do you have any idea how many more servers there are in retail? NA has like 200 servers alone.
    I believe he's suggesting that classic is bringing more new players in not that it has more servers/people than retail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deceptacon1 View Post
    I believe he's suggesting that classic is bringing more new players in not that it has more servers/people than retail.
    The problem is that it’s a baseless claim without Blizzard officially giving profits and where those profits came from.

  12. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Nask View Post
    Do you have any idea how many more servers there are in retail? NA has like 200 servers alone.
    Yup. the retail server infrastructure is insane and can accommodate a tremendous amount of players.

  13. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by phattsao View Post
    Legion was promised "in summer", and it came out the last day of August. WC3 remastered was promised "before then end of 2019", and it's looking like it's gonna be literally the final days of 2019.
    August isn’t the end of summer, September is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopsnacker View Post
    At first, it needs cross server layering very soon for a lot of servers already.
    There is no such thing as cross server layering. What Blizzard is doing as population stabilises is to move players within the same server to fewer layers.
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    But at least I can casually play Classic and remember when MMORPGs were good.

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    Reducing layers already due to population decline...

    Guess J Allen was right all along

    lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strawberry View Post
    Classic is dying, gg.
    How does it feel to be wrong all the time?

  17. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by Gadzooks View Post
    All I wanted was the bickering to stop. Once Blizzard announced they were gonna do Classic, I no longer had a horse in the race, and stopped investing in it (And I really only was going by what Blizzard themselves were saying, not that it was bad to want it). I figured, hey, now both sides get the game they want, and the arguing and slap fights would stop.

    Boy, was I wrong. It only got worse.
    Some people legitimately spend more time screeching about how "their game" is better than the other and how the other is going to die soon than actually playing the game

    I get that some people are quite retarded but even by those standards it's impressive at that point

  18. #58
    Everyone is trying to force the community into 2 buckets: those who love classic and hate retail, and those who love retail and hate classic. It's naive to think that the majority of the WoW population fits into these buckets. Using your own friends and acquaintances are examples is also a bad practice, because the sample size is vastly too small to draw any meaningful conclusions. These forums are a great example of the extremely loud vocal minority

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillTheButcher View Post
    How does it feel to be wrong all the time?
    How does it feel to be indenial all the time?

  20. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by ONCHEhap View Post
    Some people legitimately spend more time screeching about how "their game" is better than the other and how the other is going to die soon than actually playing the game

    I get that some people are quite retarded but even by those standards it's impressive at that point
    this so much this, both game are feeding each other, success Classic mean Retail still going, and same goes for Retail with Classic.

    Classic it was a success for real, but the hype is dying down. I notice on my friend, how many have come back but after a couples of week alot of them have leave already.

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