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    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheMizAwesome View Post
    Now to think of it - maybe they retconned his tattoo for a reason?
    what reason would be that? it chocks directly with the wow lore of how Garrosh put the same tattoo exactly because his father had.

    They clearly use the WoD grom as example, thats perfect fine, but this part they got wrong, Grom in Wod didn't have full yet because he was younger, grom in WC is old and had his Jaw entirely painted.
    I would prefer to wait and check the campaign first when the game is out to check what things they added or changed to justifie some changes that happened in the game to make it look more current when it comes to lore bits and connection with what happened in WoW and what's been retconned there?
    i doubt the tattoo have anything to do with the camping story, and its never mentioned in the most recent chronicles book
    Changing the size of the sword or the shield on footmans is different thing than making a whole model from the ground up with this little tattoo in mind
    changing the size of the sword or the shield is the same to change his tattoo.
    Last edited by Syegfryed; 2019-10-19 at 01:22 PM.

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    I'm all for MU Grom having a completely black tattowed lower jaw. It simply looks much better compared to those two lines AU Grom has in my opinion.

    In regards to this topic or the third tow of trolls topic, i'd say open up a thread in Blizzards forums and make your argument there. It helped with the height of the Zandalari etc. So there is at least a good chance in my opinion with Groms tattoo and the third tow if the thread gets pushed enough. I mean, its an easy change. And there is nothing wrong with being consistent in portraying the characters and races.

    But i think its important to do it in Blizzards own forum, which they might read. I doubt they read this forum much. And of course use Twitter, Facebook to bring attention to the topic. Preferably through constructive criticism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    changing the size of the sword or the shield is the same to change his tattoo.
    Not really, you can change the size values with simple commands from what i know and read when modders were doing this ''Warcraft reborn'' mod and reading posts about it on some forums.

    But probably adding big blackish texture and adding some effects to it to fit with the skin over his jaw won't be that big of a deal either.

    In my opinion, because good chunk of people probably will be 50/50 on the tattoo, they should just add classic leaner version of Grom with HD remake and let people choose.

    I prefer the buffed version of him, WoD + chronicles forward, i think that his old version looks goofy and boring(like any version of really thin orc, not looking that special in the game etc), some other people will prefer the classic grom with generic axe, because i saw some people complaining about gorehowl aswell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheMizAwesome View Post
    I saw some people being really fanatical about little retcons and saying things like ''VANILLA LOOKS BETTER, LOOKS LIKE BLIZZARD HALF ASSED ANOTHER MODELS WITHOUT THINKING, THEY ONLY WANT TO PLEASE WOW PEOPLE, CANCELLING PREORDER''.
    But even when reforged was announced it's been said that there will be some changes.

    There was this one guy that said he will protest at blizzcon because grom have a different tattoo.. I get that you can don't like the changes but a little tattoo texture that you will probably look like once and then forget about it is such a big deal for some in an RTS at the end of the day.

    Maybe people will try to play this Warcraft like WoW, literally zoomed in all the time not caring if their units are getting killed or not.
    Those people have nothing going on in their lives, hence why something as trivial as Grom's tattoo means so much to them. Everything they say should be taken with a grain of salt. The poor souls have nothing better to do than spew nonsense on the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulfric Trumpcloak View Post
    Those people have nothing going on in their lives, hence why something as trivial as Grom's tattoo means so much to them. Everything they say should be taken with a grain of salt. The poor souls have nothing better to do than spew nonsense on the internet.
    its the second time you come here to complaint about the complainers, are you all right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    I do use it but m waiting the oficial forums to open first, if it get late, or they will not open at all, im going for those things and twitter, kinda worked with the zandalari by example, they added the toe.

    im also wanna check a bit other models, if there is more missing or something wrong i can put everything in a megapost of small things

    one guy said in another forum they just release a 10gb patch fixing things like Froustmourne size( it was too big), so they are willing to change small things.
    Thats cool, and its good that someone like you actually finds these issues because I totally over looked the toe thing but now you said it I cannot keep looking at it lol.

    So yes keep brining it up, and hopefully Blizzard will get some attention to it. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    its the second time you come here to complaint about the complainers, are you all right?
    What complain? I'm simply sharing what i think of people like you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orby View Post
    Thats cool, and its good that someone like you actually finds these issues because I totally over looked the toe thing but now you said it I cannot keep looking at it lol.
    an honest question and not to bash on this toes at at all, if they are missing they should be added i guess, but how many times do you think you will be looking at your units feet during normal gameplay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheMizAwesome View Post
    an honest question and not to bash on this toes at at all, if they are missing they should be added i guess, but how many times do you think you will be looking at your units feet during normal gameplay?
    Me personally? Hardly any if not at all.

    I don't really care too much, if they fix it fine, if they don't fine! I am personally not really as bothered as most, but ultimately some people are. And its worth bringing up anyway. It's a minor complaint to me personally but that doesn't mean I shouldn't care.

    The toe thing is kind of important to the trolls, it would be like given humans a third eye, I mean you wouldn't notice much, but it'll be there. I say at least its nice to mention, as long as people are constructive about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orby View Post
    The toe thing is kind of important to the trolls, it would be like given humans a third eye, I mean you wouldn't notice much, but it'll be there. I say at least its nice to mention, as long as people are constructive about it.
    Well, to be honest when it comes to visibility and not importancy, if human units without helmets would have third eye you would see that pretty clearly, even from upside down or in portraits.

    Blizzard is pretty inconsistent with back troll toes, i feel like they want to get rid of it for some time now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheMizAwesome View Post
    an honest question and not to bash on this toes at at all, if they are missing they should be added i guess, but how many times do you think you will be looking at your units feet during normal gameplay?
    i think you are going to look at then frequently since they are your unit, and the camera angle kinda show then off, if you go back to wc3 they even walk weird because of it.

    if you will noticed and remember they should have 3? that could be hard.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orby View Post
    Thats cool, and its good that someone like you actually finds these issues because I totally over looked the toe thing but now you said it I cannot keep looking at it lol.

    So yes keep bringing it up, and hopefully Blizzard will get some attention to it. :P
    its more because OCD, some things you noticed even when its hard to find, and that i like trolls and their different anatomy, kind a unique and different trait exclusive to then, kind like monkeys, could grab thing with their foot, is pretty cool imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    i think you are going to look at then frequently since they are your unit, and the camera angle kinda show then off, if you go back to wc3 they even walk weird because of it.

    if you will noticed and remember they should have 3? that could be hard.
    Personally i would not.

    I care more about animations and how i see the unit from top, body type, armor, weapon and how the units move.

    If it was wow or some RPG it would be different case, because i usually have more cinematic camera over the shoulder there when im exploring and stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post


    its more because OCD, some things you noticed even when its hard to find, and that i like trolls and their different anatomy, kind a unique and different trait exclusive to then, kind like monkeys, could grab thing with their foot, is pretty cool imo.
    Wish that was an OCD I had, my OCD is just constantly having to categorize shit lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orby View Post
    Wish that was an OCD I had, my OCD is just constantly having to categorize shit lol
    I've re-categorized my legos five times this month

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    this remake along with golden shitting on the lore is so bad that it gives me more hope that C&C remastered will be great







    and yes, this is the original artwork updated, not the chinese friendly mop Garbage that Reforged has it

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    Quote Originally Posted by PelinalWhitestrake View Post
    this remake along with golden shitting on the lore is so bad that it gives me more hope that C&C remastered will be great







    and yes, this is the original artwork updated, not the chinese friendly mop Garbage that Reforged has it
    Made by EA.

    You expect it will even be good? lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PelinalWhitestrake View Post
    this remake along with golden shitting on the lore is so bad that it gives me more hope that C&C remastered will be great
    and yes, this is the original artwork updated, not the chinese friendly mop Garbage that Reforged has it
    Buddy, How is your C&C on the phone doing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheMizAwesome View Post
    Buddy, How is your C&C on the phone doing?
    I wonder if he's going to even acknowledge the fact that Anthem failed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WaitingForBlizzcon View Post
    Made by EA.

    You expect it will even be good? lol.
    YES, you know why?
    Because DIFFERENTLY from the Paid shilling that you do here to satisfy your microdick lords from china, and a Certain company that always gave the finger to the community and ignored it until VALVE decided to move on with their own Dota Game.

    EA was Always friendly with their old games community, Hence why so many Fan projects for their old games exists, hence why Wing Commander Saga for Freespace 2 Open Exists, hence why C&C is still modded, even the crap that is C&C4. Hence why the give free pass to the sims modding, even Porn.



    This is Dark Reign: the future of War 100% rebuilt on OpenRA engine, an RTS IP that beat even Blizzard's ones and it has a good community, AND ITS OWNED BY ACTIVISION.


    I've been playing Blizzard games EVER since SC1 and War 2, and I NEVER saw blizzard lifting a finger to its community, unless its money.
    Also, all you people are masochists still clinging to the idea that they will do something good, when in fact they ripped everyone and claimed them to be "original" like diablo being a blatant ripoff of The Immortal. Or blizzard HATING EA and Microsoft because of Age of Empires and C&C TibSun, Which are the best Remasters of the moment.

    Or the Fact that Reforged will be China friendly, FULL OF RETCONS made by Christie "i ruined Buffy the Vampire slayer" Golden and with MTX up the ass and doomed like SC2 and SCR.

    I hope that this blizzcon ends up with a shitshow that ends up in global news.

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