Lore POV weapons

[Restors]

It just dawned on me the other day, why are we still using swords or any kind of melee weapons? With the amount of siege enginees, demolishers, magic users for protective wards, even healing magic. Why are we waging war with swords and axe? Just hand everyone a machine gun to every sword user, and the amount of casualties will most certainly drop. Hell, ther's even airborne crafts that uses submachines.. theres submarines too...
It just feels like the amount of things Blizzard has added to this game, makes no sense to see a person with sword and shield in the frontlines anymore.

[matrix123mko]

Shield and sword are as good as guns.

[Restors]

Shield and sword are as good as guns.

how in the world is that even possible? you just shoot him with bullets before he even reaches you. or are shield users "jon snow" that can deflect bullets with his shield? that makes no sense.

[matrix123mko]

how in the world is that even possible? you just shoot him with bullets before he even reaches you. or are shield users "jon snow" that can deflect bullets with his shield? that makes no sense.

It makes sense in Warcraft universe. Bullets are as slow as arrows. Armors are too hard to be broken by one bullet.

[Aucald]

Guns aren't exactly plentiful on Azeroth and only expert marksmen (Hunters) are really trained in their usage. Not too mention that the abundance of magic kind of alters the equation between your standard sword and shield and gun - a sword that could hack walls, shields that can deflect battering rams, and other such products of magical enchantment kind of blur the line between melee weaponry and firearms.

[Pandragon]

Watch Captain America to see how a super powerful being with a shield fights people with guns.

[Powerogue]

how in the world is that even possible? you just shoot him with bullets before he even reaches you. or are shield users "jon snow" that can deflect bullets with his shield? that makes no sense.

Magic. (10characters)

this is a world where being sufficiently angry can allow you to absorb bullets and heal yourself.

[Skirdus]

Why aren't we using guns instead of swords?

Why aren't we using magic instead of guns?

Why aren't we using our actual gunships that we have at our disposal instead of this magical flying boat that no one even knew was going to show up?

[Nnyco]

We should go the hearthstone way and combine magic and weapons.

[Psykho]

We should go the hearthstone way and combine magic and weapons.

Imagine if they added that as a new weapon class next expansion, or perhaps if they ever do an expansion centered around the Arcane

[mickybrighteyes]

The guns of the world range from fantastic machinations of obscure otherworldly tech... to single shot front loaded blunderbusses. The latter is entirely inneffective at logical ranges that melee combatants might be able to close through and the former is treading into wizard turf in how it works...

the mechs and tech also have great liberties taken in teh areas of logistics where we don't bother thinking about upkeep or maintenance. A topic I always think about when people talk about how badass the Vindicaar is... you know the vessel that took a decade of scavenging to piece together an incomplete version with a single location to repair at (logically the original launch point unless they can move materials to a new location or fabricate on site).

In general melee weapons would still have easier upkeep issues and users fall back on their physical prowess when using them rather than the inconsistent mess that is lore magic/tech.

[MrSaggins]

Yeah, the introduction of magic is generally how franchises get away with the technological gap, and technology over time as well. Who needs to build a plane when you have instant teleportation and winged mounts? Sure, you’ve got your little niche communities within the fantasy who enjoy tinkering with such, but the natural real world progression of technology is severely stifled by magic.

[SirKickBan]

how in the world is that even possible? you just shoot him with bullets before he even reaches you. or are shield users "jon snow" that can deflect bullets with his shield? that makes no sense.

Metallurgy in WoW isn't metallurgy as we know it. There are materials for arms and armour, not to mention enchanting effects, that may make bullets relatively ineffective compared to the damage that can be done by a superhumanly strong whoever swinging an exceptionally heavy, exceptionally durable sword, axe or hammer.

Either way, while we may not know exactly why firearms aren't the dominant weapons on Azeroth, we do know that they aren't, and short of claiming that 90% of military forces are just too stubborn or stupid to adapt, we have to assume there's a good reason for it. Supply whatever reason you like, but in Azeroth, swords and bows are on par with guns.

[GreenJesus]

Guns aren't exactly plentiful on Azeroth and only expert marksmen (Hunters) are really trained in their usage. Not too mention that the abundance of magic kind of alters the equation between your standard sword and shield and gun - a sword that could hack walls, shields that can deflect battering rams, and other such products of magical enchantment kind of blur the line between melee weaponry and firearms.

MoP into quest we had actual machine guns attached to the fallen airship that any class could use.

[Aucald]

MoP into quest we had actual machine guns attached to the fallen airship that any class could use.

I recall - but such weaponry is pretty rare and often of the prototype nature, such as the prototype gunship you can fly in BfA (during the Nazmir Assault quests) with a machine gun that fires Azerite ordinance. But again, magic is still a hard-stop for ballistic weaponry; it makes the equation a bit rougher.

[melzas]

Trying to apply real life logic and physics to a fantasy world with magic is never going to end up well.

Are you going to complain that gnomes can tank dragons next?

[Feanoro]

Because:
- Blizzard doesn't know jack shit about firearms of any kind.
- Magic.
- The Plot Demands It!
- Blizzard writes "duuuuuude kewl!" first, thinks a distant second if at all

[Firefall]

You are severely underselling how strong Warriors (and Rogues) are. Warriors are basically superheroes and have absurd feats, such as cleaving a fel reaver while jumping from an airship, or slaughtering thousands of demons and becoming the only mortal to harm Sargeras. Even low level warriors stomp hard enough to create shockwaves and stuff. While the average grunt soldier would benefit from being handed a gun, many of those already do also use guns, and the main characters / player characters are much more powerful than even machine guns with their comic book, action movie super powers.

[Nathreim]

Armor enchants and mythical metals > guns. Specially since guns can't be magical while melee weapons can.

Also lore wise machine guns dont exist the few times we see them in game are rule of cool overruling lore. The flintlock was just invented very recently.

[lazaros742]

Well... first off beings on azeroth move much faster than beings on earth. Completely changes the logistics of hitting something with a gun. Most weapons and armor are enchanted, magical shit.... id imagine that the bullets would need to be equally enchanted to break through... which adds a lot of logistics to the situation. Range weapons get scopes to target non armored parts im assuming? more accuracy = more damage for them to hit the weak spots.