Youtube can't be family friendly as of jan 2020?

[Trassk]

https://qz.com/1247816/youtube-cant-...ts-groups-say/
https://www.tubefilter.com/2019/11/0...hild-directed/



So if this is correct, which I'd like to believe is just bunk, but if it is, what the hell?

As it stands at the moment youtube comes down hard on people for making more adult or risque content like swearing or something of a perceived sexual nature. But now youtube might be implementing a new rule that you can't make and release content considered kid friendly that draws in children or your be demonetized or removed for making that too?

If this is genuine, its funny, but also just leaves everything in a real no-mans land of what is even allowed on the platform anymore? What are people even allowed to make. I mean sure I'd be happy to see all those annoying as hell toy unboxing videos and fortnite videos and elsa getting dental surgery videos, but yeah, if all kid friendly content is removed from youtube, or people ordered not to make anymore of it, wheres the middle ground?

[Gungnir]

Meme videos.
There's your golden ticket as to what people will be be focused on if that change goes through.

[TheramoreIsTheBomb]

so if i upload a peppa pig video or a creepy spongebob video like that guy does i'll be demontized?

[Trassk]

so if i upload a peppa pig video or a creepy spongebob video like that guy does i'll be demontized?

This is what I don't get, before they demonetized you for making content that would be considered inappropriate for children, and now their demonetize you for making content that is appropriate for them?

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Didn’t watch the video but read the link, Sounds like they are just trying to get stuff that is for kids 13 and under into YouTube kids instead so YouTube can actually be for 13+ Don’t see the problem personally.

[The Butt Witch]

Give it a few years, and Bitchute will be what Youtube should have been, while the actual Youtube will be just safe trash like the Pauls, and video game clips (without violence, of course, violence is baed), contributing to the creation of yet another generation of liberals who are offended by everything, and are afraid of their own shadows.

The governments LIKE that kind of people, as they are the easiest to control.

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Meme videos.
There's your golden ticket as to what people will be be focused on if that change goes through.

Whoa, whoa, whoa there. No political memes, I hope, those are a big no-no. If you're talking about anime memes and cat memes, then sure.

[Pannonian]

Give it a few years, and Bitchute will be what Youtube should have been, while the actual Youtube will be just safe trash like the Pauls, and video game clips (without violence, of course, violence is baed), contributing to the creation of yet another generation of liberals who are offended by everything, and are afraid of their own shadows.

The governments LIKE that kind of people, as they are the easiest to control.

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Whoa, whoa, whoa there. No political memes, I hope, those are a big no-no. If you're talking about anime memes and cat memes, then sure.

Are you one of these bogeyman "liberals"? Because you seem quite offended by this...

[The Butt Witch]

Are you one of these bogeyman "liberals"? Because you seem quite offended by this...

Yes, I'm offended when I see sheep just eating up this crap.

Idiocracy is not the future of humanity. No, the future of Humanity will involve two castes: The Rulers and The Sheep.
Already the mainstream media and the big tech companies are working at programming and creating this caste of obedient people who don't know any better, by only exposing them to specific moral values and agendas, and anything different is just pushed off, deplatformed, etc.

[Pannonian]

Yes, I'm offended when I see sheep just eating up this crap.

Idiocracy is not the future of humanity. No, the future of Humanity will involve two castes: The Rulers and The Sheep.
Already the mainstream media and the big tech companies are working at programming and creating this caste of obedient people who don't know any better, by only exposing them to specific moral values and agendas, and anything different is just pushed off, deplatformed, etc.

Well, then don't use it? Afaik Youtube is not a human necessity. And how would you prevent it anyway? Government involvement?

[Ghostpanther]

If YouTube stops offering the content the public wants, then they will lose customers. That simple. They can make whatever rules they want and if I do not find it helpful enough or entertaining, then I will stop watching their videos.

[pionock]

This was probably inevitable no matter how little or much people kept pressuring Youtube or the companies buying adspace to do something because sometimes ads appear on unsavory videos. Everyone (even the screeching morons that harassed companies like Coca-Cola) knows that an ad on a video is just that; an ad. Everyone knows it's not an endorsement of whatever the video's content is about. But even then, Youtube's been operating at a loss for a long time and has had Daddy Google to keep it going.

Given the explosion of content creators that are able to make some kind of a living from it, all these monetization changes and "Adpocalypses" are probably just Youtube doing what it can to cope with a dwindling stream of advertisers' money. But people adapt, and it's probably for the better. A lot of Youtubers are moving to different forms of income like Patreon, SubscribeStar, superchats, Streamlabs, etc., and it allows them to not have to worry too much about what advertisers are going to think about their videos. Plus you hopefully get fewer videos with ads in them, which we all enjoy.

[Queen of Hamsters]

And people can find the content they seek elsewhere. Myself included.

[Trassk]

And people can find the content they seek elsewhere. Myself included.

tried that, most other content sites are garbage. they under-perform with their platforms, they have limited range of things to watch, and the general public just aren't drawn to other platforms which means to get any attention content creators still need to upload on youtube you get any means of attention on those other platforms.

[Lynarii]

That video is horribly misstating what is happening.

It's not that you can't make something 'kid friendly' in the sense that everything rated G is banned. What you can't do is have videos that target children under 13 and have targeted ads on them. Not because Youtube was upset about it, but because the FTC came to them and said that it's not legal (and fined them 170 million dollars).

The problem ultimately is that targeted require collecting information. It's not legal for them to collect that information from a child under 13 without the consent of their parents, which they no way of even implicitly getting just from 'if you come here, you agree to...' because children aren't allowed to enter into contracts on their own.

So the content isn't banned, but the ways for a content creator to make money off of it is going to be severely restricted, and it's kinda the FTC that is ultimately saying it has to be done this way. And it only applies to things that are aimed at children.

The only controversy really is that 'aimed at children' is a pretty fuzzy term. Some things clearly are, but a lot of things are aimed at a wide enough demographic that it's audience potentially includes children AND teenagers both.

[Lochton]

I don't see the vagueness about it, really.

It has been an issue for years already.

Basically, if you want to make a video directed towards kids, you may not include advertisements, as well as have to follow the language and behavior rules. You can just keep making videos for teens and up without an issue though but this new setup just means that the legitimate videos from channels that legitimately makes content for kids, they can't put an advertisement that is clickable at the video.

[Cosmic Janitor]

This one will be quite interesting. On one hand you can't declare you content for adults, as youtube will demonetize (and still earn money from) your videos, on the other hand if someone in the US deems that your content is aimed at kids they can close you down or fine the shit out of you. So you have to somehow try to produce content that could not be construed as aimed at kids, yet does not run the risk of flat out youtube scamming you either.

That sure as hell kills all the lego-makers on YT.

[Twdft]

That sure as hell kills all the lego-makers on YT.

Just say "welcome my fellow adults" at the start of your video then?

[Cosmic Janitor]

Just say "welcome my fellow adults" at the start of your video then?

And that is supposed to do what? Give you some kind of plausible deniablity when you fight some arbitary government imposed fine for a couple of years bankrupting yourself? Also people already tried messing around with the algorithm and depending on where the machine learning goes anything that could vaguely be connected to kids will just be flagged (and essentially demonitized) anyway, even if you set it to normal audiences and do your proposed spiel at the beginning. At the moment having lego somewhere in your video seems to do the trick for many.

All of that because youtube in absolute desperation wants to track everything everyone does - they just forgot that some US law forbade that in the 90's for kids. Now they nuke their own platform once again from orbit by disabling comments and host of other features instead of just not tracking stuff that is flagged for kids. I mean their tracking doesn't even work, I get offered 10 cheap shitty chinese mobile games each time a watch a bit of youtube, I have yet to buy a single one of them. They sure found their target audience with me.

[kamuimac]

https://qz.com/1247816/youtube-cant-...ts-groups-say/
https://www.tubefilter.com/2019/11/0...hild-directed/



So if this is correct, which I'd like to believe is just bunk, but if it is, what the hell?

As it stands at the moment youtube comes down hard on people for making more adult or risque content like swearing or something of a perceived sexual nature. But now youtube might be implementing a new rule that you can't make and release content considered kid friendly that draws in children or your be demonetized or removed for making that too?

If this is genuine, its funny, but also just leaves everything in a real no-mans land of what is even allowed on the platform anymore? What are people even allowed to make. I mean sure I'd be happy to see all those annoying as hell toy unboxing videos and fortnite videos and elsa getting dental surgery videos, but yeah, if all kid friendly content is removed from youtube, or people ordered not to make anymore of it, wheres the middle ground?

im not surprised.

people try to spread fake news that its about "average" youtuber

when it clearly a politics aimed at "pato-streamers"

who make ton of $$$$ from producing content which is only entertainning to young teens and is extremly socialy detrimental.

you dont know what pato-streamers are ? educate yourself please then join this discussion again.

[Muajin76]

https://qz.com/1247816/youtube-cant-...ts-groups-say/
https://www.tubefilter.com/2019/11/0...hild-directed/



So if this is correct, which I'd like to believe is just bunk, but if it is, what the hell?

As it stands at the moment youtube comes down hard on people for making more adult or risque content like swearing or something of a perceived sexual nature. But now youtube might be implementing a new rule that you can't make and release content considered kid friendly that draws in children or your be demonetized or removed for making that too?

If this is genuine, its funny, but also just leaves everything in a real no-mans land of what is even allowed on the platform anymore? What are people even allowed to make. I mean sure I'd be happy to see all those annoying as hell toy unboxing videos and fortnite videos and elsa getting dental surgery videos, but yeah, if all kid friendly content is removed from youtube, or people ordered not to make anymore of it, wheres the middle ground?

As long as youtube doesn't go the way of pornhub, i'm ok.