Is N'zoth really dead?

[Soratoyo]

Is he gonna make a comeback and somehow play a role in the Shadowlands, or even perhaps after the upcoming expansion?

[EbaumsTipster]

We literally have no idea until the raid cutscene. Characters THINK he is dead: that's all we know.

[Aucald]

Given that he was supposed to killed and/or contained by the Xal'atath blade, and it seems he wasn't, I'm going to go with "no." Unsure if he'll reappear in Shadowlands, but I don't think he's completely done for either.

[Golden Yak]

Who knows.

There was some mention at Blizzcon apparently of what happens to Old Gods after they die, so maybe we'll find out. Maybe they all go to the Maw.

Personally, I was always a fan of the 'They Do Not Die' line that all their minions say, and the idea that if an Old God 'dies' their power survives and it infests the world and gives rise to more monsters. Like what happened with Y'Shaarj and the Sha. Plus Yogg-Saron's influence is still bubbling around up in Ulduar. I think it'd be cool if N'Zoth is dead but his essence starts producing some new breed of monster.

[LarryWithTheWeatherReport]

He's probably gone for good since we channeled a huge energy beam from Azeroth directly to destroy him. We'll see him in the Maw getting bullied by the bigger meaner baddies or fighting with Yogg and C'thun there.

[Feanoro]

He's definitely dead, from the Titans' point of view. Totally not a waste of the first and only completely free Old God.

[Donald Hellscream]

We break into his body and kill his, what I assume is his brain, so yeah I think he dies when we fry his brain.

[LarryWithTheWeatherReport]

He's definitely dead, from the Titans' point of view. Totally not a waste of the first and only completely free Old God.

From the Titan's point of view, something could also happen where he gets dragged out of the Maw and into the mortal realm again.

[Muajin76]

Is he gonna make a comeback and somehow play a role in the Shadowlands, or even perhaps after the upcoming expansion?

According to NK, he's still alive but is recovering his wounds.

[Darknessvamp]

At the moment? No he isn't.
After the final raid? Maybe leaning towards yes. Though Blizzard has suggested we might be have another Demon situation where [_____] can only be killed in a specific place saturated with/their home realm of [______]. So following similar logic, if Ny'alotha isn't considered the home realm of the Old Gods/saturated in enough void to "anchor him for death" then we might be seeing him again later... as well as all the other ones who "died" after being "killed".

[Andonais]

He take a full reorigination beam to the face hes done.

[Hctaz]

At the moment? No he isn't.
After the final raid? Maybe leaning towards yes. Though Blizzard has suggested we might be have another Demon situation where [_____] can only be killed in a specific place saturated with/their home realm of [______]. So following similar logic, if Ny'alotha isn't considered the home realm of the Old Gods/saturated in enough void to "anchor him for death" then we might be seeing him again later... as well as all the other ones who "died" after being "killed".

Riiiiiight... so that thing that they say whenever they want to keep reusing their dead characters for reasons.

Honestly getting kinda sick of this. Old Gods were interesting when they were some shapeless unknown entity of madness and corruption that existed for no reason... Ever since they became minions of the Void Lords, I've just lost interest in them entirely. I'd rather them just stay dead at this point.

[Kyphael]

I thought we blow him up with a Kamehameha wave?

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He take a full reorigination beam to the face hes done.

What this guy said.

[Th3Scourge]

He's dead, at least in physical form. What a waste of an Old God

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Riiiiiight... so that thing that they say whenever they want to keep reusing their dead characters for reasons.

Honestly getting kinda sick of this. Old Gods were interesting when they were some shapeless unknown entity of madness and corruption that existed for no reason... Ever since they became minions of the Void Lords, I've just lost interest in them entirely. I'd rather them just stay dead at this point.

Existing for some nebulous reason isn't really interesting, that might of worked in vanilla but not anymore they need a reason to do what they do.

He's dead, at least in physical form. What a waste of an Old God

So was C'thun but....thats never talked about.

[Easo]

Seeing as other Old Gods are supposed be actually killed by us, yeah, bye bye, according to Blizzard. But that quote can be and is still interpreted in various ways.
Personally, I think it would be best if they just died. No, everyone really does not need to be brought back. It cheapens their death.

[LarryWithTheWeatherReport]

I thought we blow him up with a Kamehameha wave?

Yeah there's no way he's surviving that especially since it's from the player's perspective. But I'm sure it's possible we'll see him in the afterlife somewhere within the Shadowlands.

[Kyphael]

[QUOTE=LarryWithTheWeatherReport;51885428]

I thought we blow him up with a Kamehameha wave?

Yeah there's no way he's surviving that especially since that's from the player's perspective. But I'm sure it's possible we'll see him in the afterlife somewhere within the Shadowlands.

Argh, if Old Golds have souls, I'll throw my gun in the dirt. I always thought they were dimensional beings void of sentience, instruments of destruction of the equally enigmatic Void Lords (who themselves don't have souls because they are astral beings of some sort that transcend the concept of life and death. They're like viruses, and viruses don't have souls.

[Hctaz]

Existing for some nebulous reason isn't really interesting, that might of worked in vanilla but not anymore they need a reason to do what they do.






So was C'thun but....thats never talked about.

They don’t need a reason at all. They’re based off of H.P. Lovecraft’s stuff. There was never really a reason. You can’t reason with madness incarnate. You can’t comprehend that which is beyond this world.

They took an incomprehensible creature and gave it something to comprehend. A reason for existing. They never needed one.

You took an army of chaotic evil creatures that drove mortals to insanity merely by looking at them and turned them into minions of something that has reason. C’thulu doesn’t need a REASON. It just IS. That’s what the old gods were and should have always been.


Also C’thun wasn’t dead until we beat him. He was canonically pretending to be dead.

[Izalla]

Alleria says that the whispers got worse rather than better. One can assume that even if he is dead, something seriously did not work out in our favour regardless.