Russia banned by WADA for the next TWO Olympics

[Skroe]

Sweet, sweet justice. When will Russia's government decide to stop trying to create cheating schemes in sports? Compete cleanly for fucks sake.

By the time this ban is up after 2022, Russia will not have competed in the Olympics since 2016 (they were banned in 2018 too). And if the behavior doesn't change and if they aren't transparent, they could easily see an extension of their ban.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...okyo-olympics/

The World Anti-Doping Agency executive committee voted Monday to bar Russia from competing at the next two Olympic Games.

The decision means Russia will have no formal presence at next year’s Summer Games or the 2022 Winter Games in Beijing. Similar to the 2018 Winter Olympics in PyeongChang, Russians who have not been implicated in the country’s state-sponsored doping scheme will be allowed to compete in Tokyo as unaffiliated athletes. In PyeongChang, 168 Russians competed as “Olympic Athletes from Russia.”

After being banned from the 2018 Games, the country and its Russian Anti-Doping Agency were conditionally reinstated in September 2018, but Russian officials were caught earlier this year manipulating data from its Moscow anti-doping laboratory and misleading WADA investigators, prompting a new chapter in a years-long doping scheme that continues to roil the international sports community.

WADA’s executive committee met Monday in Lausanne, Switzerland, where it considered recommendations from WADA’s Compliance Review Committee. The committee voted to give the Russian Anti-Doping Agency formal notice of its noncompliance with the World Anti-Doping Code, and the Russian agency has 21 days to respond. If it disagrees with the WADA ruling, it can protest the matter to the Court of Arbitration for Sport, which would have final say.

Russian Olympic officials had been bracing themselves for Monday’s decision. Yuri Ganus, the head of the Russian Anti-Doping Agency, told the Associated Press last week the sanctions “were to be expected, and they’re justified.”

Thomas Bach, the president of the International Olympic Committee, has said the Olympic governing body must abide by WADA’s decision. The IOC recently called Russia’s actions “an attack on the credibility of sport itself and is an insult to the sporting movement worldwide.” The organization — and Bach specifically — has been steadfast in its support of including Russian athletes “where they are able to demonstrate that they are not implicated in any way by the noncompliance.”

Not everyone agrees. Travis Tygart, the chief executive of the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, has argued that WADA needed to take a tougher approach and bar all Russian athletes, contending that Russia’s Olympic and anti-doping officials have not heeded previous warnings.

“WADA must get tougher and impose the full restriction on Russian athlete participation in the Olympics that the rules allow,” Tygart said last week. “Only such a resolute response has a chance of getting Russia’s attention, changing behavior, and protecting today’s clean athletes who will compete in Tokyo, as well as future generations of athletes in Russia who deserve better than a cynical, weak response to the world’s repeated calls for Russia to clean up its act.”

The recent data manipulation is the latest act by Russian officials to flaunt anti-doping rules and international norms. As part of its 2018 reinstatement, Russia was required to turn over data from its Moscow laboratory. WADA investigators received that data in January but noticed it didn’t align with information that was shared by a whistleblower in October 2017. WADA launched a “formal compliance procedure” in September over concerns that the data had been tampered with or altered, and Russian officials were given three weeks to answer questions about the suspect data.

The Compliance Review Committee ruled last month that the “Moscow data are neither complete nor fully authentic,” and there were “hundreds of presumptive adverse analytical findings” shared by the whistleblower that weren’t included in Russia’s 2019 submission. The investigators found “the related underlying raw data and PDF files have been deleted or altered” after RUSADA had been reinstated and ordered to turn over the data.

Furthermore, the investigators found that someone attempted to implicate whistleblower Grigory Rodchenkov, the former director of the Moscow lab, by planting fabricated evidence in the data that he was involved in a scheme to extort money from athletes.

“Dr. Rodchenkov foresaw that Russia would manipulate laboratory data before disclosing it to authorities,” Rodchenkov’s lawyers Jim Walden and Avni Patel said in a statement last week. “The Russian gangster state continues to deploy a predictable and deplorable policy of deception, evidence-tampering and lying to cover up its crimes. The Kremlin must think the people of the world are idiots to believe this shameless and transparent stunt.”

Russia’s limited presence in Tokyo promises to be a major story line at next year’s Olympics. It’s not known how many Russian athletes might be competing, but Russia is traditionally a regular visitor to the medals podium. At the 2016 Summer Games in Rio de Janeiro, the country’s track and field athletes were barred from competing because of doping concerns, but they still sent 282 athletes and brought home 56 medals, the fourth-most of any nation. At the 2012 Games, the Russian contingent included 436 athletes, the third-largest Olympic team in London, and won 68 medals.

In addition to the ban on international competition — which also includes Youth Olympic Games, Paralympics, world championships and other major sporting events subject to WADA Code — the committee also recommended that Russian officials be barred from sitting on boards and committees related to international sports governance. Russia also will not be permitted to host any major sporting event or even apply for hosting duties, and the Russian flag would not be allowed to fly at any major event.

I agree with Travis Tygart, the chief executive of the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency. All Russian atheletes should be banned too and not be eligible to compete under the Olympic flag. This is not the first offense, by Russian sport. It's time to take more draconian measures.

[Draco-Onis]

This is rather unpopular but I will just say it, I don't think PED should be banned from Olympic sports the reason is that the majority of players are on something and just haven't gotten caught. The sophistication of drugs nowadays make it easy to put something in your system that will vanish within 24 hours or less, I mean look at Lance Armstrong he got away with it for decades without getting caught.

I know people will talk about it's cheating blah blah but is it really cheating if everyone is doing it just no one is talking about it? just make it legal so that everyone is on an even playing field. At this point the people not doing it are those without the financial means or support from their countries to do so. You have to see it from their perspective if you could take a drug that would make you the best at what you do and net you millions you would take the risk.

[Machismo]

Russia has been cheating in the Olympics since before the Iron Curtain fell.

[StillMcfuu]

This is rather unpopular but I will just say it, I don't think PED should be banned from Olympic sports the reason is that the majority of players are on something and just haven't gotten caught. The sophistication of drugs nowadays make it easy to put something in your system that will vanish within 24 hours or less, I mean look at Lance Armstrong he got away with it for decades without getting caught.

I know people will talk about it's cheating blah blah but is it really cheating if everyone is doing it just no one is talking about it? just make it legal so that everyone is on an even playing field. At this point the people not doing it are those without the financial means or support from their countries to do so. You have to see it from their perspective if you could take a drug that would make you the best at what you do and net you millions you would take the risk.

Other than having to prove that most of the athletes are actually doing in some way; we can reliably single Russia out because they have a clear cut state sponsored program. If you are an athlete from Russia, you are almost certainly apart of the doping program.

[niztheundead87]

Everyone is taking something the Americans ban the Russians based on drugs they don't agree with .

Marion Jones calling out the Russians on steroids for example.

[Kontinuum]

Legalize PEDs and drop pretense.

[Crispin]

Everyone is taking something the Americans ban the Russians based on drugs they don't agree with .

Marion Jones calling out the Russians on steroids for example.

Needs citation thanks.

[Machismo]

Everyone is taking something the Americans ban the Russians based on drugs they don't agree with .

Marion Jones calling out the Russians on steroids for example.

And Marion Jones was guilty, had medals taken away, and banned.

Meanwhile, this is a proven state-sponsored program that has lasted a very long time. If you can prove that people are on something, then ban them. If you can prove that the United States is pushing state-sponsored doping, then ban them.

[Sunseeker]

I like the defenders on this thread: "Why ban Russia!?? Everyone is on drugs!!!"

lol

[Collegeguy]

Russia has always been faking it till they make it.

[Zelk]

Seems unfair that Russia is banned just because their doping is state funded instead of funded by companies like Europe and the US

[Machismo]

Seems unfair that Russia is banned just because their doping is state funded instead of funded by companies like Europe and the US

Can you provide evidence of all of this?

If companies are funding doping, ban them, as well.

[Zelk]

Can you provide evidence of all of this?

If companies are funding doping, ban them, as well.

Of course I can't, but anyone that watches professional sport knows it's the case

[Crispin]

Of course I can't, but anyone that watches professional sport knows it's the case

Oh please tell us how you spot through your telly that people are doping. Would also love to hear how you know it's companies that does it and which companies of course. Are they using the chem-trails to do it?

[Machismo]

Of course I can't, but anyone that watches professional sport knows it's the case

There's the problem, you are making an accusation that you even admit you have no evidence to back up.

Meanwhile, there's a shit ton of evidence against Russian, including the government's involvement.

"It's totes obvious" is not nearly the argument that you hope it is. If evidence comes that any other country is pushing state-sponsored doping... ban that country. If evidence arises that a corporation is doing the same, ban them.

[niztheundead87]

And Marion Jones was guilty, had medals taken away, and banned.

Meanwhile, this is a proven state-sponsored program that has lasted a very long time. If you can prove that people are on something, then ban them. If you can prove that the United States is pushing state-sponsored doping, then ban them.

It's simple USA doesn't make money out of it therefore it's banned.

I guess your answer to everything is teh RuSsIaNs did it

[Machismo]

It's simple USA doesn't make money out of it therefore it's banned.

I guess your answer to everything is teh RuSsIaNs did it

These are more baseless claims on your part, and you are moving goalposts. I have flatly stated that any country or corporation that is sponsoring doping should be banned.

To hide from backing up your previous claim, you choose to push another conspiracy theory.

The Russians literally did do this, which is why they got banned. The facts don't give a shit about your feelings.

[niztheundead87]

These are more baseless claims on your part, and you are moving goalposts. I have flatly stated that any country or corporation that is sponsoring doping should be banned.

To hide from backing up your previous claim, you choose to push another conspiracy theory.

The Russians literally did do this, which is why they got banned. The facts don't give a shit about your feelings.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/us-ol...b_RCkKUjovMPYw

https://www.vox.com/2018/7/24/176033...pics-instagram

https://www.good.is/sports/allison-wagner-olympics

https://www.livescience.com/55779-bi...s-history.html

baseless acording to you , yes usa cheat too

usa the greatest opioid dealer in the world where getting sick can get you broke
wada and the fda are a joke

[Milchshake]

I like the defenders on this thread: "Why ban Russia!?? Everyone is on drugs!!!"

lol

Ya this behavior is very curious. A historian friend and I were talking about it.

30+ years ago "stop picking on the USSR:" kinda made sense. It usually came from people defending the idea of international socialism.

But people today defending modern Russia. What are they defending really? Putin's international oligarchy?
What kind of people go around on gaming sites defending Oligarchy?

I dunno, maybe it's just one person with a buncha socks defending oligarchy. Or Glenn Greenwald fanboys.

Rich Anarcho-Libertarians defending oligarchs does make some sense.

[Machismo]

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/us-ol...b_RCkKUjovMPYw

https://www.vox.com/2018/7/24/176033...pics-instagram

https://www.good.is/sports/allison-wagner-olympics

https://www.livescience.com/55779-bi...s-history.html

baseless acording to you , yes usa cheat too

usa the greatest opioid dealer in the world where getting sick can get you broke
wada and the fda are a joke

We've already covered that some athletes cheat, and when they do, they should get banned. If you can show it's state-sponsored cheating, then ban that state sponsor, as well.

I never said American athletes didn't cheat, so you are still trying to move goalposts and build straw men.

From your first article:

"The allegations Goucher and others leveled against the American program do not rise to the level of Russia’s malfeasance, and the United States has never been accused of engaging in such a systematic scheme of state-sponsored doping."

God damn, that's rough.

In your second article, Lochte got banned. Shit, it looks like the system worked, and just like I called for, he got banned.

The third article wasn't about the United States at all, and the person who was on steroids also got banned. It looks like your sources are showing why my stance is so damn good. Thanks.

In the last one, it speaks of Lance Armstrong... a guy who got busted, banned, and had his wins taken away. It mentions Marion Jones, and I already spoke how she was banned and had medals taken away. it speaks of Tyson Gay, another one who got busted... great!!!

Meanwhile, Russia got caught pushing state-sponsored doping... so they got banned. They are being consistent.