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  1. #501
    Quote Originally Posted by Pebrocks The Warlock View Post
    And you trust a small minority of people that don't know how releases work. It's coming in 2020. Deal with it.
    The op is nuts if he thinks its coming in year 2021 lol thats not happening.

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    there not going to wait almost 4 years to release a new expansion i don't know wtf op is smokeing but i want some now!!!

  2. #502
    Newsflash: the date given on preorders is the absolute LATEST the game can be released. If they go past that date for whatever reason, it will mean potential legal trouble for them. And that latest date is December 2020 iirc. So yeah...

  3. #503
    Do you feel stupid now after the wc3 news? I know I would if I said "Blizzard isn't new to the publishing game. When they put down a date and allow pre-orders they are SURE they can make it."

  4. #504
    Quote Originally Posted by Azerate View Post
    Newsflash: the date given on preorders is the absolute LATEST the game can be released. If they go past that date for whatever reason, it will mean potential legal trouble for them. And that latest date is December 2020 iirc. So yeah...
    Not sure what legal trouble you think will happen? They might have to refund the small handful of people who pre ordered but have now decided they would rather have their money back.

    They would probably give those folks (probably less then 1% of total pre orders) refunds anyway it’s not really a hardship.

    There are no serious legal problems by pushing the date back 30 days.

  5. #505
    Quote Originally Posted by Trbn View Post
    but it has
    No, it doesn't. Whether January 28th 2020 is before or after December 31st 2019 does not affect whether "on or before December 31st 2019" is a time range or January 28th 2020 is a specific date.

    31.12 was the last possible release day for the game to not make b. statement false advertisment
    Which, again, has nothing to do with what i said. I wasn't even talking about Blizzard.

  6. #506
    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    It said "on or before". That's not a release date, because it isn't a date. It's a range. January 28th 2020 is a specific date.
    31st of December 2019 is a date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linuriel View Post
    There is no such thing as a placeholder date. It was the release date. And now it has been pushed back. They couldn't keep their deadline.
    They why does both gamestop and amazon have different "release dates" for the same product? Placeholder dates exist. They are usually dates that will not be missed but in some cases they can be. Blizzard never annouced the official release date as December 31st or before. That was just the date listed on the store page. Things happen. It was delayed. It has only had one official launch date January 28th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azerate View Post
    Newsflash: the date given on preorders is the absolute LATEST the game can be released. If they go past that date for whatever reason, it will mean potential legal trouble for them. And that latest date is December 2020 iirc. So yeah...
    No. All it means is that they may have to issue refunds. They are not legally obligated to release a product by that date.
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  8. #508
    Quote Originally Posted by Azerate View Post
    Newsflash: the date given on preorders is the absolute LATEST the game can be released. If they go past that date for whatever reason, it will mean potential legal trouble for them. And that latest date is December 2020 iirc. So yeah...
    Newsflash: You have no clue what you’re talking about. There are absolute zero legal issues when not delivering something on a set date.

    It’s like taking UPS to court when delivering one day late.

  9. #509
    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderball View Post
    Alright, there's no point arguing with believers.
    This post is pretty good evidence that you have absolutely no evidence to say it'll be delayed until 2021. If you can give even a tiny bit of indication that shadowlands might be delayed until 2021 other than your feelings, i'd give it some thought. So far though, there's nothing to indicate it.

  10. #510
    Quote Originally Posted by Linuriel View Post
    31st of December 2019 is a date.
    And "on or before 31st of December 2019" is a range. Specificially, the range of dates from now till the 31st December of 2019.

  11. #511
    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    And "on or before 31st of December 2019" is a range. Specificially, the range of dates from now till the 31st December of 2019.
    And your point is?

  12. #512
    Quote Originally Posted by Linuriel View Post
    And your point is?
    And that brings you back to the previous post.

  13. #513
    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    And that brings you back to the previous post.
    Ok so you have none.

  14. #514
    Quote Originally Posted by Linuriel View Post
    Ok so you have none.
    No, you're just not getting it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raisei View Post
    Blizzard isn't new to the publishing game. When they put down a date and allow pre-orders they are SURE they can make it. They probably are sure they can make it 1-2 month earlier even, the extra time is to adress critical and unforseen problems. That is how you plan a release, no company in existance will make a release claim, cash in on pre-orders and then delay it without a very very very important reason.

    This is because by pre-ordering they signed a contract with each and everyone of us and part of that contract is the release date. If they are not delivering by that date they are liable for a legal claim from each and every one of us and we would win those easily. The costs for attorneys and the repercussions and refunds are immense at that point, no company would risk this.

    If it actually comes to it that they cannot finish the entirety of Shadowlands at the start then the worst thing that will happen is one of the areas being taken out at first to be added a few weeks after release so they can finish it.
    Which is completely fine, unless you are one of those no-lifers that levels to 60 and finish all areas by playing for 24 hours straight after release and then complain after a week that you have nothing to do and Shadowlands has so little content....
    And all of this just became completely invalidated by the delaying of WC3:Reforged beyond the promised release date.

  16. #516
    The mental processes going on in people's heads, the logical "leaps" they make to come up with their absolutely insane conlucsions...eh, those never cease to amaze me.

    Claiming that one game being delayed is somehow an indicator that another game will be delayed...I mean, how do people come up with that? Maybe if the same team was working on both games then maaaybe, if we stretched enough, and turned our heads at just the right angle, I COULD see it...but that's just not the case.
    If the future is female...get ready for apocalypse.

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    I'm fine with Shadowlands not releasing for a while, but I'd like them to have a huge Beta/PTR patch to access. If it's big enough it should tie people over until the pre-patch/real release date
    I don't play WoW anymore smh.

  18. #518
    Quote Originally Posted by Azerate View Post
    Newsflash: the date given on preorders is the absolute LATEST the game can be released. If they go past that date for whatever reason, it will mean potential legal trouble for them. And that latest date is December 2020 iirc. So yeah...
    That is correct. My dad is a lawyer and I discussed it with him several times and he thinks that if they delay Shadowlands until 2021, there is likelihood that they will go to jail.

  19. #519
    Quote Originally Posted by Azerate View Post
    Newsflash: the date given on preorders is the absolute LATEST the game can be released. If they go past that date for whatever reason, it will mean potential legal trouble for them. And that latest date is December 2020 iirc. So yeah...
    So you think they are in "huge trouble" for missing their officially announced release for War3?

  20. #520
    Quote Originally Posted by Azerate View Post
    Newsflash: the date given on preorders is the absolute LATEST the game can be released. If they go past that date for whatever reason, it will mean potential legal trouble for them. And that latest date is December 2020 iirc. So yeah...
    Complete nonsense. Dates on preorders have meant nothing, always have. Pre-orders don't even guarantee that you will not have to pay more when the product is available. Pre-orders also don't guarantee that you get the product your purchased in advance. Pre-orders are a gimmick companies use to try and gauge consumer interest and a good way to drum up sales, as it commits some people into something they may not have otherwise bought on release day. Pre-orders are a non-legally binding sales gimmick, if only people would understand that.
    What are you willing to sacrifice?

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