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    The Void - what's the attraction?

    Unmistakably people are drawn to this void concept, new as it is to Warcraft. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I suspect it developed from the shadow concept and is revealed to be the source behind it.

    Death and void must be related ofc as people close to death seem to handle it well, including undead.

    is the attraction the concept itself of a space like emptiness with nice purple colours? or is it more spiritual in that people who love it feel empty inside and it really embodies them?

    Finally the popularity of the void elves might be the attraction as they are emo looking apparently "gorgeous" blood elf model types and it makes wielding void sexy - trust blizzard to make fel wielding and void wielding sexy by making elves the main racial users of them (ofc the Warlock and priest class do use fel and void magic, but it is the Illidari and void elf sub-races that are racial users and ofc blood elves and night elves are the top two attractive models in the game

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    I mean its basically just lovecraft and that shit is neat.
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    Old gods, tentacles, dark celestial effects, hot elves and huge amount of interesting looking eyes make the overall great effect. I loved old gods since Cataclysm.

    Aesthetics aside, I don't associate void with emptiness. For me it an interesting incarnation of evil. Dark force that corrupts minds and makes stuff more interesting.
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    Tastes like jello

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    Blizz more or less copy pasted the warp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nnyco View Post
    I mean its basically just lovecraft and that shit is neat.
    Except its not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Combatbulter View Post
    Blizz more or less copy pasted the warp.
    Bingo we have a winner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Combatbulter View Post
    Blizz more or less copy pasted the warp.
    Where is the Warp from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ravenmoon View Post
    Where is the Warp from?
    Warhammer fantasy/40k

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    People love being edgelords.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StillMcfuu View Post
    People love being edgelords.
    This, really. THere's a contingent of people who love being the dark, edgy kind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Combatbulter View Post
    Blizz more or less copy pasted the warp.
    I would say it's an extremely water downed version of the Warp.

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    Tentacle porn's been around for centuries, dude. What d'ya mean "what's the attraction?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by StillMcfuu View Post
    I would say it's an extremely water downed version of the Warp.
    Well the other half became the twisting nether.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ravenmoon View Post
    Unmistakably people are drawn to this void concept, new as it is to Warcraft. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I suspect it developed from the shadow concept and is revealed to be the source behind it.

    Death and void must be related ofc as people close to death seem to handle it well, including undead.

    is the attraction the concept itself of a space like emptiness with nice purple colours? or is it more spiritual in that people who love it feel empty inside and it really embodies them?

    Finally the popularity of the void elves might be the attraction as they are emo looking apparently "gorgeous" blood elf model types and it makes wielding void sexy - trust blizzard to make fel wielding and void wielding sexy by making elves the main racial users of them (ofc the Warlock and priest class do use fel and void magic, but it is the Illidari and void elf sub-races that are racial users and ofc blood elves and night elves are the top two attractive models in the game
    They are popular not just because they are hot but because their theme is cool, since they are this renegade dark sect using a shadowy power to do good. Plus the british accents.
    The Void. A force of infinite hunger. Its whispers have broken the will of dragons... and lured even the titans' own children into madness. Sages and scholars fear the Void. But we understand a truth they do not. That the Void is a power to be harnessed... to be bent by a will strong enough to command it. The Void has shaped us... changed us. But you will become its master. Wield the shadows as a weapon to save our world... and defend the Alliance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Combatbulter View Post
    Blizz more or less copy pasted the warp.
    Well considering they got their start making a Warhammer game which became WarCraft, and that StarCraft is just their version of 40K, and Diablo is just Warhammer Quest, is it much of a surprise?

    It's Games Workshop's fault they can't capitalize on their own IP.

    Also the warp is just in turn their feeble attempt at Lovecraftian horror, so if we want to walk down the "who ripped off who" road...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Combatbulter View Post
    Well the other half became the twisting nether.
    Then you would have to combine all magic into the void and twisting nether. Also 40k needs the warp, as much as they have to be weary of what comes out of it, they can't ignore it. 40k has done a lot with the Warp. Warcraft it just kind of sits there more so as an easy explanation of where things come from, then an actual tangible plot point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StillMcfuu View Post
    Then you would have to combine all magic into the void and twisting nether. Also 40k needs the warp, as much as they have to be weary of what comes out of it, they can't ignore it. 40k has done a lot with the Warp. Warcraft it just kind of sits there more so as an easy explanation of where things come from, then an actual tangible plot point.
    The C'tan were another source of "magic" the warp is not the source of all. The void is not just sitting there it is actively trying to breach into the physical universe to corrupt and consume it all, much like the chaos gods.

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    Tastes like jello
    Grape jello, the best jello flavor!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrashi View Post
    Bingo we have a winner.

    To be fair, everything about Warcraft is copy paste, which is why the high elf hate surprises me a lot when those who passionately hate it because they're "Tolkein elves" they claim.

    Everything in wow or most things are copy pasted from popular fantasy. I am surprised we haven't got a Star wars copy yet, what is charming about blizzard is usually how they adapt many of these things, and the fact that all your favourite pop culture variants are in one place and It has a cohesive story.

    I mean, that's at least what I like most about Warcraft - the lore has proven to fall short far too many times for me to idolise it, which is a bit shocking for such a renowned and long lived media series ( I would expect less mistakes than they've made), but despite some of the glaring thigns, we are all still a bit interested because there are things we're quite fond of

    I like most of the adaptations, not all though, then after that, I don't always like some of the things they emphaises and am sometimes irritated by some of thet higns they seemingly leave forgotten which were actually nice touches.

    I was most impressed by the Dark elf adapation of the night elves into a
    not evil
    fused arcane/nature duality race, then instead of living underground in caves had a star light/moonlight ..i.e. night SKY emphasis in them containing a wide range of diversity within that race and its function (when you think of their arcane, nature, Divine, fel, and light/void expertise, with archers/hunters and warriors and the interesting gender swap without being weird or feminist) I really liked that as compared to other fantasies, dark elves were typically very monotonous and evil - hence whey I use to be quite outspoken when communities left no room for the other facets of the night elves outside nature.

    Orcs and blood elves (also void elves) were another twist I liked. Orcs were cunning, intelligent, whiles maintaining their savage and brutish edge.. but they weren't dumb like in many portrayals, and Warcraft and LotR were the only two fantasy worlds were orcs actually felt dangerous, but Warcraft the only one were they were redeemable and again had this diverse range and reach, not just limited to "the savage warrior ME SMASH" portrayal. However the fact that is how orcs are perceived in other fantasies, plays out quite well, as this view of orcs is often held by arrogant races like elves and humans, yet is far from the truth.

    Blood elves exploring the magical addiction started in the night elf story and turning out to be less than the upstanding morally perfect and virtuous high elf was also interesting. I definitely found Tolkein's high elves interesting and how he managed to portray them as he described them, an impressive feat I have now learned as nearly every other fantasy has failed to get immortality/long lived or highly intelligent races (as they describe portrayed). The blood elves however were flawed elves morally, but with the cunning high intelligence of the race, keeping their beautiful appearance, but being quite the opposite (in many cases) on the inside, was great, they offered both the hope of returning to their nobler past yet not and offering a more devious feel to the blood elves without going the all out evil/crazy that competing elven groups (like dark elves usually have). My only gripe is actually not really with them, but the lack of the night elven group being out paced by the blood elves because it doesn't fit the original lore, night elves are supposed to be by default superior in every aspect, magical aptitude, intelligence, longevity, stature - but they aren't as ambitious as the blood elves and are crippled by shame and guilt because of the sundering - yet they were initially shown to be sterner and more commanding only to have them fad e to nothing which I have always felt isn't a good move, because of how popular the high elf is, you always need to make your dark/night elf one step ahead to compete, and I felt that the night elves have the racial background to provide that, but it isn't utilised in wow at all and that's because of gameplay facors.


    However I digress, most of wow is ripped form somewhere, but it's cool because we like their taste. undead is basically the zombie apocalypse, except they become cool and do metal with funky punk hairstylesz, worgen/vamps are out of suprentaural. elves/dwarves/trolls/orcs - classic tolkein dirved fantasy, etc.. mages and wizards, dark elves, kung fu panda, demons too etc. They make it work even though they sometimes go too far (the new titan lore or twisting the light with the whole Xe'ra/Illidan thing) or do un-necessary twists (like Nelves from trolls). But for the most parts I quite like it, deven with a lot of stuff mentioned that isn't later developed or used.
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    Being sodomized by tentacle gods.....why would anyone want that is beyond me.

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