Are sex and killing scenes really necessary?

[Raetary]

Maybe, but media makes them far more common than they are, making rare and unique occurrences every day.

Sex and violence are rare occurrences?

In what world do you live in exactly?

[Understarmor]

Remove sex and violence would erase the mcu from existence outside a handful of movies.

this is literally one of the dumbest things ive ever read....there's literally ZERO sex scenes in the MCU so stop.

[Stardrift]

The sex is pretty dumb. As for the violence, why not? Some studios want to set a certain rating. Most of the time it sets the tone of the movie.

[ravenmoon]

After reading through a few of your responses it really sounds like you have an issue with nudity in general. The human body is a beautiful thing(mostly), and sex is a beautiful act. Just b/c there are people out there who were raised as prudes, it doesn't mean sex/nudity shouldn't be shown in film/tv. It's natural, and the last thing we, our children, and future generations need is sex being hidden away in some dark hole and pretending it doesn't exist.

I watch several hundred films a year and I hardly ever see what I'd refer to as 'raunchy' sex. Most of it is fairly well done, tasteful, and most importantly...ACCURATE. I'm fine with that. If someone isn't, well the PG section is ----> that way.

As for violence, again it's a part of life and doesn't need to be sugar coated to pretend it's any less than what it is. In real life, you get stabbed and you bleed. I think it's important to show those things b/c it's something we don't see in our day to day, we just hear about it. If it's used as a storytelling tool, I have no issues. Even torture porn, while I'll agree is stupid, has it's place. It's made to be over the top, shocking, dumb fun.

Film is a business. Nobody wants to put out a film that makes 0 dollars. Sure, some directors/writers are more passionate than others and care more about the message than the bottom line...but studios are the ones funding films, and they want that $$$. So they are 100% in support of putting in things that will get people to show up. And the truth is, sex/violence sells.

I think your issue is more in line with your personal beliefs towards sex/violence than what's actually being portrayed. For someone who obviously has issues seeing nudity and feels that sex is 'raunchy'(which it almost never is), it doesn't matter how little a film shows said nudity/violence...you're going to have an issue with it. My advice, just blame your parents for bringing you up with outdated views and for keeping you from enjoying life...just like I do :P

It's not nudity or sex that is the issue, although I admit I should have more of an issue than i feel.

I was just trying to Express the sexual equivalence of what I meant.

[conceptKitty]

Necessary? No, not always. But if it's implemented at the right times it can add to the series. Whether that's sexual themes in terms of consent or not and the same goes with killing whether it's unfair or not.
My favourite anime Berserk would have nowhere been as intense without those events, if I may call it that.
However, I often did find it being a bit random and out of place in series such as Game of Thrones, but I did not hate it or dislike it.

[Ragedaug]

Sex sells. As does violence.

While I would agree, they do sell - so does a good, well made story. If you look at the highest grossing films of all time, you'll see very few rated R movies in the top 50 or top 100. Now, just to clarify, I'm more drawing the line at gratuitous sex or gratuitous violence. Enough to make the movie rated R anyway.

In the top 50 (adjusted for inflation) I am just seeing The Exorcist (15) and the The Godfather (50). Most are PG or PG-13, but there's even 10 G rated movies in the 50 top grossing films of all time.

So the likelihood is, when you see a movie that's relying on gratuitous sex or violence, the reason is because that particular story isn't compelling on its own. And they are hurting their top end earning potential by doing so.

[GreenJesus]

Just like what Ion Has it cost us would say: if you want movies without violence or sex scenes, then PG movies are there waiting for you OP.

[StillMcfuu]

this is literally one of the dumbest things ive ever read....there's literally ZERO sex scenes in the MCU so stop.

It's all mindless action. Please try to keep up... If you remove sex and violence, all the violence is gone from MCU. No more reason to watch.

And if you want to split hairs...

Super heroes in non functional skin tight outfits is sex.

[Beautiful Man]

Depends on the genre. I think for porn movies, sex is essential.

[Ragedaug]

Sex and violence are rare occurrences?

In what world do you live in exactly?

Sex is almost always a private matter. There is public sex, I would think, but I would imagine it's very rare. As for violence, it's pretty rare. If you turn on the news and hear about 1 violent occurrence a day in a city or country with millions of people, that's still statistically nil. Most people have a 00.x% chance to see a violent occurrence throughout their daily travels. So, yeah, that's pretty rare.

[MatadorMedia]

I think sex and violence scenes were much more popular in the 80s and 90s when these were still taboo. Some genres continue this trend into the 2000s with torture porn, typically horror or thriller type films. Or the action genre continues to be overtly violent and light on story beats. For most genres, a sex scene doesn't provide anything but a violent scene can provoke a strong catharsis to a conflict, as long as it's not just unnecessarily gratuitous.

[mickybrighteyes]

The need for such scenes is dependent on the story being told.

A war or story chiefly focused on conflict and violence would be pretty lackluster if no killing was included.

At the same time some story associated with sex somehow with no sex related scenes would also be missing something.

Needs more context to really look at than just "dramas"

[Pony Soldier]

I actually like the extra effort to show the gore and violence. I like when movies don't pussyfoot around and hint at someone's head being chopped off or someone being shot in the head but rather just show it. I just hate it when a movie that is obviously meant to be bloody and gory goes PG-13 and cuts away whenever something bad happens because some people can't handle it or because they want to "protect the children". Then don't take your damn kids to see a Rated R movie then. So tired of people wanting o censor things that weren't meant for the min the first place.

However the sex scenes I can do without. I mean don't get me wrong I love seeing hot naked women in movies but when it's a one on one session and lasts for like 2 minutes then it just gets awkward because it's like you're watching a short softcore porn video. It's even worse when you're watching it with other people especially family (adults of course for any of you that would say "kids aren't meant to see those kinds of movies!"). That stuff I don't mind cutting away from because it's just too awkward to sit there and watch two actors pretending to have sex for 2+ minutes. Let them make out for a couple seconds, give a hint that they're about to wrestle if you really want, then fade away to the next scene.

I guess in the end it really all depends on the movie and the story being told. If the story requires to show off blood and gore then it should have it. Same thing goes for sex. If you don't like it what's being shown then don't watch it.

[RobertoCarlos]

Are talking scenes needed when the human eyes are so emotive. I want more movies of people staring at each other in silence

[Martymark]

There are 999,999,999 movies. Just watch the sanitized G rated ones and it will keep you safe from the bad thoughts.

[mickybrighteyes]

I don't quite know about killing scenes, haven't given them much thought, but sex scenes, from my experience, are some of the most unnecessary scenes there are.

The argument for their relevance would be that you're able to portray certain things in a sex scene for instance Dany's sex scene with Drogo in which she takes control, and while that is true, and it says a lot about her character and how she's developed I don't think the same couldn't have been shown and established by her getting on top of him, holding him down, kissing him and then have it fade to black.

Full blown two people going at it is fun, sure, but let's not pretend it's anything but fan service.

People like to use a similar argument for some gratuitous death scenes. Like the Hitler death scene in Inglorious Bastards, the secretary being eaten in the Jurrasic World movie (seriously spent like 2 minutes watching her get yoked around by dinos to get eaten all at once).

I also believe that at times some of the 'sex scene' arguments include things beyond depicting the actual act of sex and extend to shit like Bikini Contest or stripclub background in the setting of a scene or some other arguably pointless addition of another character who's purpose seems to be eye candy. Starship Troopers shower scene as an example...

[Nellise]

It's not as much sexual implications or fighting i'm talking about as much as when they show you heads split into , or bodies run over

What are you watching where you see all this stuff? I know you mentioned Tarantino, but I avoid his movies because I know he can be a bit too graphic for me. I don't watch horror movies at all because I don't like seeing graphic violence. So if you're seeing movies with that level of violence you're seeing them on purpose. Most US tv and movies are thought to be very chaste as far as sex. HBO throws stuff in just because they can sometimes, but HBO is a very tiny part of what's available.

I think at least half of the top 10 movies the past week at the box office have minimal levels of violence or sex. Frozen 2, Little Women, Knives Out, Like A Boss, Spies in Disguise, and Just Mercy all have very little in the way of violence or nudity with Knives Out having one murder scene (but it's a murder mystery so that's a bit on the viewer if they didn't expect that). Then you have Star Wars, Jumanji, and 1917 that have violence but nothing like what you're worried about. The only one that might be upsetting is Underwater, but that's an action/horror film and I'd think you'd know that going in, but it's still just PG-13 so isn't going to be that bad (and has no nudity).

[corruptdevil]

Violent deaths on screen are far more dramatic than cutting away and leaving it to your imagination. This is evident by your concern about violent scenes. There is a stronger impact from actually seeing such acts. Doesn't matter if its real or not. Similar arguments for sex, you can argue that you can see it fine and vividly in your head, and your imagination is stronger than reality, but the sense of seeing the act is usually a stronger impact than what you imagine.

Far more people tend to enjoy these scenes than those who don't. Its your personal opinion as to whether you think it has a place, but its factual that these scenes definitely have a stronger impact for actually being shown.

[Spiffums]

Movies are entertainment. Take out the sex and violence and it's just people talking.

[Mistame]

Necessary? Perhaps not. Entertaining [for most people]? Absolutely. The reality is that there are those that like "raw" (gratuitous violence/nudity/sex) scenes and those that don't. If you're part of the latter and are "offended" by those scenes, don't watch them. No one has an obligation to cater to your sensibilities, however infantile.