Virginia Gun Rally Today in Richmond Feared To Be Like Charlottesville

[szechuan]

I'm sure compared to the weapons in 100 years ours will seem almost like toys too, but in some cases the hunters had better or as good rifles as troops of the time, lewis and clark had a air rifle made from 1778-1815 that even by today standards was deadly and it was a repeater, able to shoot a .46 caliber ball at velocities of around 750-900 feet/sec (about 225 - 275 meters/sec)

And still nothing compared to Modern Day weaponry and technology if used properly.

[jeezusisacasual]

So to be clear i would give about 40 names and addresses in Cheyenne / Laramie area to national authorities if a gun grab was to happen because i believe it would be for the best, i would even turn in my 2 hunting rifles if need be. People forget that people with my same mindset are all over the nation which would curtail more violence from taking shape.

[Edge-]

If those were mutually exclusive statements, sure. But they're not.

[Dadwen]

And still nothing compared to Modern Day weaponry and technology if used properly.

Anything is deadly if used properly, even a 45 black power with re-loadable chambers could do a lot of damage fast with practice, and
not sure anyone asking to keep a tomahawk or M1 Abrams at home.

http://firearmshistory.blogspot.com/...air-rifle.html
n unusual feature of the Girandoni rifle was that it did not use any gunpowder. Instead, the method of propulsion was compressed air. The rifle was about 4 feet (1.2 meters) long, weighed about 10 lbs (4.5 kg.) and fired a .46 caliber ball at velocities of around 750-900 feet/sec (about 225 - 275 meters/sec), which is about the same velocity as a .45 ACP bullet coming out of a modern Colt 1911 pistol. Although, air rifles had been in existence before Bartholomaus Girandoni invented his rifle, previous models were all single shot rifles, whereas this was the first example of a repeating air rifle.

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If those were mutually exclusive statements, sure. But they're not.

is banning a weapon that is used in 4% of the homicides really going to change anything?
*if it they are banned and nothing changes what's goes next.

[szechuan]

any anything is deadly if used properly, even a 45 black power with re-loadable chambers could do a lot of damage fast with practice, and
not sure anyone asking to keep a tomahawk or M1 Abrams at home.

And Modern Technology has made guns easier to fire, carry and aim. Modern Guns are also much more dangerous in general considering the Ammunition and technology that is available.

is banning a weapon that is used in 4% of the homicides really going to change anything?
*if it they are banned and nothing changes what's goes next.

Lies

[Dadwen]

And Modern Technology has made guns easier to fire, carry and aim. Modern Guns are also much more dangerous in general considering the Ammunition and technology that is available.



Lies

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...hs-in-the-u-s/

Which types of firearms are most commonly used in gun murders in the U.S.?

In 2017, handguns were involved in the majority (64%) of the 10,982 U.S. gun murders and non-negligent manslaughters for which data is available, according to the FBI. Rifles – the category that includes many guns that are sometimes referred to as “assault weapons”– were involved in 4%. Shotguns were involved in 2%. The remainder of gun homicides and non-negligent manslaughters (30%) involved firearms that were classified as “other guns or type not stated.

ya whatever....

[Draco-Onis]

Resorting to personal attacks when proven wrong, typical.

Where did I attack you? were your fee fees hurt because I said you don't know about the papers written by the founders?

[Edge-]

is banning a weapon that is used in 4% of the homicides really going to change anything?
*if it they are banned and nothing changes what's goes next.

If it can reduce the deaths due to those weapons, yes.

There are no real practical arguments for having them. And packs of roaming wild hogs rampaging through your front yard while your daughter plays isn't a great reason to have one.

Just because it's not the only, or even biggest problem related to gun violence, doesn't mean that we should ignore or dismiss it. I agree, focus on the biggest problems first whenever possible, but a multi-pronged approach to reducing gun violence is just fine by me.

[Cockus Maximus]

Where did I attack you? were your fee fees hurt because I said you don't know about the papers written by the founders?

Apparently words that the founders wrote are too big for me.. yet here you are ranting on about some imaginary papers after I already told you what 2A says. Since you clearly never read it yourself, I'll paste it here for you:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

The words aren't too big for you are they? Do you comprehend the above? Now please tell me where in your "papers" it says that 2A is specifically referring to an outside force.

[Cizr]

Who was the author of the videos in OP ? He/she deleted them. I bet that anti gun people were really sad that any shooting didnt happen there and that it was just a peaceful rally.

Also its pretty ironic that majority of the people who want to disarm Americans are the same ones who also think that America under Trump is becoming fascist state . If your goverment is so bad then being left defenseless is last thing you want.

[Dadwen]

If it can reduce the deaths due to those weapons, yes.

There are no real practical arguments for having them. And packs of roaming wild hogs rampaging through your front yard while your daughter plays isn't a great reason to have one.

Just because it's not the only, or even biggest problem related to gun violence, doesn't mean that we should ignore or dismiss it. I agree, focus on the biggest problems first whenever possible, but a multi-pronged approach to reducing gun violence is just fine by me.

curious what you see as the difference between a hunting rifle and a assault rifle?

[Draco-Onis]

Apparently words that the founders wrote are too big for me.. yet here you are ranting on about some imaginary papers after I already told you what 2A says. Since you clearly never read it yourself, I'll paste it here for you:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Federalist_Papers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Federalist_Papers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundi...unding_Fathers

[Masark]

I bet that anti gun people were really sad that any shooting didnt happen there and that it was just a peaceful rally.

Mostly because your Al-Qaeda The Base buddies are sitting in cells rather than being able to enact their plans for this rally.

[JohnBrown1917]

Who was the author of the videos in OP ? He/she deleted them. I bet that anti gun people were really sad that any shooting didnt happen there and that it was just a peaceful rally.

Also its pretty ironic that majority of the people who want to disarm Americans are the same ones who also think that America under Trump is becoming fascist state . If your goverment is so bad then being left defenseless is last thing you want.

So peaceful a pro-gun politician had to go into hiding during it because of the threats that came from this rally.

[PickleballAce]

ah, the assumption that all those people would rise up and work together
when the truth is they would be in little cells of their drinking buddies,

And you're making the assumption that people in the military are robots that would turn on their countrymen en masse in a snap.

[Orbitus]

And you're making the assumption that people in the military are robots that would turn on their countrymen en masse in a snap.

Trump supporters seem to think they will if civil war breaks out. Thinking they will side with Trump and the law breakers. Even though the last thing we found out about the military members is that Trump is like 4th on their list for candidates and who they donate to, with Bernie leading the way.

[Cthulhu 2020]

AR-15 vs drones and armored SWAT tanks

OR

AR-15 vs a bunch of unarmed school children

Posting this image really didn't have the intended effect that you wanted it to huh?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Federalist_Papers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Federalist_Papers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundi...unding_Fathers

Don't forget, the guy calling the federalist/anti federalist papers "imaginary" and his ilk are the people waging war on reality.

Texas has already edited a lot of the racism in American history out of their textbooks. I wonder just how far these people are willing to go to edit history to fit their narrative that makes it more friendly for their faction?

[DocSavageFan]

Oh my...another thread devoted to the irrational fears of the demonic Right who happen to value their second amendment rights. But let's take a moment to rejoice that the sky hasn't fallen once again...and that reality has prevailed...once again. Hallelujah!

But seriously, this kind of speculative horseshit (with zero basis in fact) only serves to reinforce and perpetuate a 'less than rational' worldview. We need to reject this kind of low resolution thinking if we're to aspire to a more prominent position on the bell curve. Just saying.

[Cockus Maximus]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Federalist_Papers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Federalist_Papers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundi...unding_Fathers

You could've just said you were referring to the Federalist Papers. But I should be the one facepalming because you still didn't tell me where it says that 2A specifically refers to an outside force. 2A exists so that the people can protect themselves. Whether that's from an outside force or from their own government if devolves into tyranny isn't specified as far as I'm aware.

[JohnBrown1917]

Oh my...another thread devoted to the irrational fears of the demonic Right who happen to value their second amendment rights. But let's take a moment to rejoice that the sky hasn't fallen once again...and that reality has prevailed...once again. Hallelujah!

But seriously, this kind of speculative horseshit (with zero basis in fact) only serves to reinforce and perpetuate a 'less than rational' worldview. We need to reject this kind of low resolution thinking if we're to aspire to a more prominent position on the bell curve. Just saying.

I did not know the 2nd amendment involved forcing pro-gun politicians into hiding.