Mega-Thread: Democratic 2020 Primaries

[JohnBrown1917]

It's your fault because you don't fucking pay attention or do some due diligence before speaking nonsense here. THIS is why nobody takes you seriously.

You mean libs don't? Ye, the should not, would be a waste of time.


You really have no fuckin idea what kind of nonsense you're spouting right now.

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9 days to Iowa!
Warren snagged the Des Moines Register endorsement, Biden got the biggest steel workers union, and Bernie has sparked a spirited discussion on whether or not trans people are acceptable sacrifices to gain a handful of red-pilled conspiracy theorists.

Endorsement: Elizabeth Warren will push an unequal America in the right direction

Holy shit, US unions really are terrible.
But funny how you still think Bernie's campaign is throwing trans people under the bus, is it fun to delude yourself?

[Rozz]

I know that some of you are trying to stay on topic, but ease up with the forbidden discussion. It's teetering more off course than not.

[Shalcker]

The Onion also weight in on controversy:

Liberals Say Sanders’s Acceptance Of Rogan Endorsement Sends Dangerous Message He Trying To Win Election

WASHINGTON—Slamming the campaign for promoting the popular podcaster’s backing, liberals said Friday that Bernie Sanders’s acceptance of Joe Rogan’s endorsement sends a dangerous message that the candidate is trying to win the 2020 presidential election. “This is just the Sanders campaign opening the gates to a plurality of people who would vote for him and help him win the presidency,” said political commentator Scott Griffin, who called the campaign’s promotion of Rogan’s endorsement a true “mask off” moment, exposing Sanders’s goal of winning the Democratic primary and eventually the general election. “It’s very unnerving to see a Democratic candidate like Bernie Sanders try to court voters from varying constituencies and demographics. It’s like his whole strategy is beating Trump. We saw hints of this in 2016, but I’m truly sickened to see it rearing its ugly head again. I’m all for creating a Democratic majority, but not if we have to accept more people than the other side has.” Griffin added that it was even more disturbing that Sanders would attempt this during an election year.

[Benggaul]

You really have no fuckin idea what kind of nonsense you're spouting right now.

Says the guy who didn't know what HRC meant because you were too busying Hillareeee-ing. You torpedoed your own argument because you couldn't take 2 minutes to read and do a quick spot of research to be sure. If you're any indication, nobody is going to have to worry about Communism taking over any time soon.

[Milchshake]

Oh oh, now America's Most Punchable Nazi, Richard Spencer is now applauding the Rogan endorsement.

Please be careful when you let all those tiki-torches into your small tent or yurt.... think season 6 Game of Thrones.

Wait a sec, a bunch of weird neckbeardy guys trashing women all the time. Who see themselves as a conquering horde.... this analogy works in all levels.

[JohnBrown1917]

Says the guy who didn't know what HRC meant because you were too busying Hillareeee-ing. You torpedoed your own argument because you couldn't take 2 minutes to read and do a quick spot of research to be sure. If you're any indication, nobody is going to have to worry about Communism taking over any time soon.

Yeah, its just that HRC also did the same anti-endorsement shit in the last few days, but nah, liberals just love being cryptic too much I suppose.
Oh and don't worry, communism won't rise, you guys will keep getting your jollies of seeing poor people suffer for atleast the next few decades.

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Oh oh, now America's Most Punchable Nazi, Richard Spencer is now applauding the Rogan endorsement.

Please be careful when you let all those tiki-torches into your small tent or yurt.... think season 6 Game of Thrones.

Wait a sec, a bunch of weird neckbeardy guys trashing women all the time. Who see themselves as a conquering horde.... this analogy works in all levels.

This is just getting sad if you honestly think that nazis will get accepted by the same sort of people that think its okay to beat them up.


Its funny to see libs now worry about it, The same people that always complain that punching nazis is wrong and are always shitting on antifa are now suddenly saying that those sort of people would accept nazis.


How much farther can you reach?

[jonnysensible]

Oh oh, now America's Most Punchable Nazi, Richard Spencer is now applauding the Rogan endorsement.

Please be careful when you let all those tiki-torches into your small tent or yurt.... think season 6 Game of Thrones.

Wait a sec, a bunch of weird neckbeardy guys trashing women all the time. Who see themselves as a conquering horde.... this analogy works in all levels.

You're being disingenious now. Spencer likes the sound of his own voice and believes his take matters...it doesnt. If you are genuinely worried about entryism/red brown/third position rat fuckers it helps to not shoot out bad faith misinterpretations.

You should take note of AFA, occupy the spaces and reach out to the people rogan does and even further to spencers territory at that level. There is nothing wrong with Bernie going on a new media platform (with an audience of millions) and 'meeting' people to convert them to more progressive politics.

[eschatological]

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You think Joe Rogan wouldn't have done war crimes had he had an iota of relevance or political power in his life?

[Blade Wolf]

Oh oh, now America's Most Punchable Nazi, Richard Spencer is now applauding the Rogan endorsement.

Please be careful when you let all those tiki-torches into your small tent or yurt.... think season 6 Game of Thrones.

Wait a sec, a bunch of weird neckbeardy guys trashing women all the time. Who see themselves as a conquering horde.... this analogy works in all levels.

So now Richard Spencer is a trustworthy source?

[Benggaul]

Yeah, its just that HRC also did the same anti-endorsement shit in the last few days, but nah, liberals just love being cryptic too much I suppose.

If you think an acronym is "being cryptic" then frankly your opinion means zilch. (That means "nothing" in case it was too cryptic for you.) Good luck with the impotent rage! *waves*

[Elegiac]

I seriously doubt it.

I might also need to remind people that Weinstein, Trump and Epstein also endorsed the Clintons...

Cool, is Hillary Clinton running in the current primary? No?

Then don't pull a Trumpkin and start up with "but Hillary".

[Milchshake]

I wish I could say I was surprised by this---but it's a perfect illustration of why Sanders' endorsement kerfluffle was a sign of ugly things to come.



So why do those of us on the left rankle whenever mainstream politicians or public figures cosy up to right wing extremists (cf Ellen and Bush)? Because we fear that normalising them and their worldview will shift the Overton window in their direction. We're already seeing that happen here. Now Coffin is implicitly accepting and promoting GG's smokescreen arguments on faith, implicitly blaming their targets for what they suffered, and suggesting anyone who disagrees is preventing healing and unity. The argument Coffin makes relies on accepting GG's notoriously deceptive claims about itself (see Angela Nagle).

And the end result will normalise some awful, truly harmful ideas. But hey, own "the libs" at any cost right? You can bond with a few alt-righters on that idea too, hey!

Podcasts, the new opiate of the masses.

[jonnysensible]

I wish I could say I was surprised by this---but it's a perfect illustration of why Sanders' endorsement kerfluffle was a sign of ugly things to come.



So why do those of us on the left rankle whenever mainstream politicians or public figures cosy up to right wing extremists (cf Ellen and Bush)? Because we fear that normalising them and their worldview will shift the Overton window in their direction. We're already seeing that happen here. Now Coffin is implicitly accepting and promoting GG's smokescreen arguments on faith, implicitly blaming their targets for what they suffered, and suggesting anyone who disagrees is preventing healing and unity. The argument Coffin makes relies on accepting GG's notoriously deceptive claims about itself (see Angela Nagle).

And the end result will normalise some awful, truly harmful ideas. But hey, own "the libs" at any cost right? You can bond with a few alt-righters on that idea too, hey!

Podcasts, the new opiate of the masses.

You are just moaning about extremely online people now.

[Milchshake]

You are just moaning about extremely online people now.

Calm down. It's just using a small example(s) to illustrate how the larger problem is working. Also how their blaming SWJs (civil rights activists really) for them not having all the socialist goodies ... is just a continuation of the gamergate orthodoxy.

Instead of blaming the SWJs for ruining games, they grown up now to blame SJW for the status quo. (SWJ historically are always fighting the status quo)


Of course, missing the irony of apolitical and non-engaged voters blaming anyone else for the status quo.

They wasted 12 years of their life on WoW, instead of working on politics that would affect their future. Bernie and Trump just lucked into being the real WoW-killer all these guys were waiting for.

[Draco-Onis]

The Onion also weight in on controversy:

ROFLMAO, omg you can't make this up the onion is a parody newspaper man /facepalm.

[Orbitus]

ROFLMAO, omg you can't make this up the onion is a parody newspaper man /facepalm.

To be honest, he is from Russia, they probably don't know what parody is there.

[Telogrus]

To be honest, he is from Russia, they probably don't know what parody is there.

ROFLMAO, omg you can't make this up the onion is a parody newspaper man /facepalm.

Uhhh what about his post suggests that he doesn’t know that the Onion is a parody?

The Onion is mocking the anti-Bernie crowd for being outraged that a centrist like Joe Rogan endorsed Bernie, which gives Bernie an expanded base and shows that he can convert people from across the political spectrum to his side.

He’s just showing off the Onion mocking you guys

[Orbitus]

Uhhh what about his post suggests that he doesn’t know that the Onion is a parody?

The Onion is mocking the anti-Bernie crowd for being outraged that a centrist like Joe Rogan endorsed Bernie, which gives Bernie an expanded base and shows that he can convert people from across the political spectrum to his side.

He’s just showing off the Onion mocking you guys

You don't know Shalcker. He will believe Fox News is legit. So, it wouldn't surprise me if he thinks the Onion is legit.

[Telogrus]

Establishment Democrats: “Bernie’s base is too white. He needs more diversity”

*Bernie gets more support from latinos and blacks*

Establishment Democrats: “Bernie’s base is ‘too urban’. He needs to appeal to more moderates.”

*Bernie gets an endorsement from Joe Rogan, a relatively apolitical centrist*

Establishment Democrats: “Bernie is a bigot for accepting Joe Rogan’s endorsement. He needs to appeal more to trans people”

[Flarelaine]

Republican presidents have been bad all the way back to Reagan. Probably even before him to.

Nixon being a bad president in terms of good governance is debatable - his legacy is stained by him being a crook but he wasn't out and out a bad president (Clean Water Act, EPA, affirmative action). And Eisenhower was arguably good.