1. #6461
    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    And the country would have been much better for it, than it has been the last 3 years. What a shame.
    The 2016 was the perfect storm of shit, can't put it all on Comey, all though he did screw the pooch at the end.

    You also had to down to the DNC backing her regardless of how horrible she was seen, you have her actions with Sanders and just how smug and entitled she acted like she didn't need their votes up until near the end, have the email leaks, have her refusal to campaign in many places thinking she was owed their votes, had them ignoring the fact that Trump was actually talking about problems and they weren't really doing the same in many of them.

    Comey was the straw that broke the camels back, but he wasn't the only straw there by any measure.

    Edit: The DNC knew what was up with all the Benghazi crap. They should have just let it all play out, and then have her run in the primary only to resign part of the way through having the Republicans blowing all that time and money for someone to just take all the heat till then and bow out.
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  2. #6462
    Quote Originally Posted by rogueMatthias View Post
    Bad signs for Democrats across the board to be honest. Turnout seems to be underwhelming and not the big unite-against-Trump they were hoping for.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...96/ncrd1135551

    who to trust, nbc or you, hmmmmmmmmmmmmm......

  3. #6463
    Quote Originally Posted by rogueMatthias View Post
    Well as Clinton undoubtadly lost the election because of Comey then I'm not sure that's entirely a bad thing.
    Ah, but you forget - the FBI isn't allowed to look into the 2020 election unless Barr directs them to. What do you think the odds are that Barr will just happen to direct them to look into the Democrats?

  4. #6464
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkTZeratul View Post
    Ah, but you forget - the FBI isn't allowed to look into the 2020 election unless Barr directs them to. What do you think the odds are that Barr will just happen to direct them to look into the Democrats?
    If the president is a democrat Barr will have bigger problems. Such as covering his own ass

  5. #6465
    You know I’d vote for Pete or Bernie, Bernie is not a socialist by Danish standards. But I’m afraid that America is not going to elect a “omg commie” or “omg homosexual!” Into office. A corrupt racist is preferable

  6. #6466
    Quote Originally Posted by Crispin View Post
    A corrupt racist is preferable
    We got Bloomberg for that.

  7. #6467
    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post
    it's not like he won't be the in WH Cabinet as favorable as he is just like Ben Carson was to the republicans
    i mean, it's like he said in his quitting speech. his campaign actually got people seriously talking about UBI and the actual coming NEED for it to happen.

    i'd say he was much more of a substantial impact on our society than carson has been since anyone even learned of his existence in 2016. except in brain surgery i guess, he did good with that. so he should have a substantial roll in anyone's cabinet, should a democrat actually win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispin View Post
    You know I’d vote for Pete or Bernie, Bernie is not a socialist by Danish standards. But I’m afraid that America is not going to elect a “omg commie” or “omg homosexual!” Into office. A corrupt racist is preferable
    i said before that i thought homophobia might drive the black vote away from pete, but i've reconsidered since then.

    it won't be an issue with whites, and blacks are only like 14% of the population. of that population, i doubt a high percentage votes, and of that low percentage i'd say an even smaller amount are homophobic. if a large percent of that 14% votes though, then it could indeed be a problem.

    i'm not sure on hispanics. every one i was in school with was very homophobic, and our neighbor is devout catholic, doesn't even curse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    i said before that i thought homophobia might drive the black vote away from pete, but i've reconsidered since then.

    it won't be an issue with whites, and blacks are only like 14% of the population. of that population, i doubt a high percentage votes, and of that low percentage i'd say an even smaller amount are homophobic. if a large percent of that 14% votes though, then it could indeed be a problem.

    i'm not sure on hispanics. every one i was in school with was very homophobic, and our neighbor is devout catholic, doesn't even curse.
    In New Hampshire Pete did poorly with the "Goes to church every week" demographic. So he's certainly still going to be facing issues in regards to his sexuality which is rather unfortunate.

  9. #6469
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    If the president is a democrat Barr will have bigger problems. Such as covering his own ass
    You misunderstand; I'm saying Barr will direct them to publicly investigate the Democratic nominee before the election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...96/ncrd1135551

    who to trust, nbc or you, hmmmmmmmmmmmmm......
    Yeah, I asked him about that and he still hasn't gotten back to me.
    "If you are ever asking yourself 'Is Trump lying or is he stupid?', the answer is most likely C: All of the Above" - Seth Meyers

  11. #6471
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydin View Post
    The problem with Bernie is his whole 'socialist' label. A lot of Baby Boomers are stuck in a Cold Warrior mindset and are opposed to 'teh ebil of socialism!' without actually really knowing what socialism is.

    The attack ads against Bernie would just be him standing in front of a hammer and sickle with a Soviet-era anthem playing.
    Baby boomers aren't really where a Bernie candidacy is going to be setting its sights. His voting bloc will be in the under 40s, the millenials (who are approaching 40 quickly) and the Gen Zers. Gen X will be huge in determining if he can win the General, with the Boomers before them going to the Republican in almost every scenario.

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    So onto Nevada and we'll start with a bang

    https://twitter.com/meganmesserly/st...40861140733967

    NEW: In a new flyer, @Culinary226 warns members that @BernieSanders would "end" their much-loved union health care. The union has not announced whether it will endorse, but the flyer appears to be part of a coordinated campaign ahead of the caucus.
    Culinary Union has alot of power in Nevada and they're immediately going after Bernie. The question is, can they actually decide on a moderate? It'll be really interesting on how much we hear from Harry Reid in the next 10 days since he really directs traffic for the party in Nevada
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  13. #6473
    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrt View Post
    In New Hampshire Pete did poorly with the "Goes to church every week" demographic. So he's certainly still going to be facing issues in regards to his sexuality which is rather unfortunate.
    He didn't do poorly in NH. He came in a close second with about a 1% difference.

    Who REALLY got WTFClobbered was Biden. Good christ, 5th!? Smegging Kobuchar beat him (and warren no less!?) o_O

    I know this might upset some people here, but it's looking like people do-not-want status quo Dem anymore! =/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Yang calls it quits after two abysmal showings.
    Yeah, good on him for bowing out at this point. I've stated he's to this election as to what Bernie was in 2016. Yang's going to have his moment again in future... provided we have a future post-November. =/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimensius View Post
    Lol fuckin' Kyle Kulinski? Really?
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Lol fuckin' Kyle Kulinski? Really?
    What's wrong with him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimensius View Post
    What's wrong with him?
    Don't you remember that one song from the Sound of Music: How Do You Solve A Problem Like a Brocialist?

    All I'm gonna say is AOC and Omar were god's gift to Bernie Sanders since the only other public figures that seem to actually like him are angry white dudes.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Uh oh, rose twitter is demanding everyone bend the knee.

    Election 2020: Imagine if Robespierre had a stupid twitter mob, instead of a regular mob.

    Government Affiliated Snark

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker76 View Post
    Election 2020: Imagine if Robespierre had a stupid twitter mob, instead of a regular mob.
    Since it's been brought to my attention that a few of Bernie Sanders' more toxic supporters aren't in fact men, might I recommend we opt for the more neutral term of "Whackobins"?

    That feel when you're a Girondin stuck in Jacobin country.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

  20. #6480
    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Don't you remember that one song from the Sound of Music: How Do You Solve A Problem Like a Brocialist?

    All I'm gonna say is AOC and Omar were god's gift to Bernie Sanders since the only other public figures that seem to actually like him are angry white dudes.
    And yet Bernie killed it among nonwhite women in NH... This "brocalist" thing is starting to sound kinda sexist. I'm starting to think that you're just a Warren supporter who liked her more than Bernie because of her professorial attitude, and now have sour grapes about Bernie being the leading progressive.

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