It's perfectly valid to want to see medical details for an older candidate who has recently suffered a heart attack, even a mild one. That's not an attack, it's a very pertinent concern.
No one wants to see the VP become relevant, failsafe or no.
What isn't reasonable is to expect to see every single document sitting in their medical record, including graphic photos of surgical procedures.
Have any other candidates in their late 70's had heart attacks while running for the highest office in their country for a 4 year term?
I'm legitimately curious.
The health of the POTUS matters. A lot. If the POTUS has a condition that could sideline them for months midway through the presidency, that's relevant for US voters to factor into their decisions.
Again, and I don't get why folks seem to ignore this, by his own admission he is not living up to his commitment.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ds/4801735002/
So, he's released what other candidates have released, but not held up to his own commitment.When asked to clarify whether he'd be releasing full medical records, Sanders concluded, “I don’t think we will, no.”
You're all calling Bernie Sanders a liar when you continue to maintain this position.
This surgery photo thing is entirely brought up by Sanders backers. If you notice, nobody is asking for them in this thread. We're simply point out, that by his own admission Sanders made a commitment and is not seeing through that commitment.
That's it. Nobody wants to see him in a hospital gown. Nobody is asking to see his dick. It's just y'all constantly talking about how we all apparently want to see his dick which is really fucking weird, dude.
That's nice.
While you insist that couldn't possibly happen, that is what is actually happening in the media and rather than try to reckon with that y'all just retreat into sulking and truculence at how unfair the media is.
Like Ninespine I work in healthcare, and Bernie's "full release of my medical records" sounded exactly like that at the time, which is why I thought it was stupid - and that assessment has borne out since Sanders is Walking It Back™.
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What is the definition of "all".
Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
Yes, it's perfectly valid to question the health of a candidate. But, I think most people know that this particular situation is about more than that. It honestly feels like a last ditch effort to grab onto something to bring Sanders down. You can almost feel the excitement in some pundits voices, that they think they finally have something good to attack with.
I do not believe that if you swapped candidates that this would be as big of a fuss as it is. Swap Sanders for Warren, Buttigieg, Klobuchar, etc... and the same folks on TV that have been after Sanders all this time would be defending them or just not talking about it at all. The question in a Town Hall or debate wouldn't even be asked.
If Warren or Biden had had a heart attack in October, I'd be very concerned about that.
POTUS is the most stressful job in the world if you take it more than halfway seriously unlike Trump. And stress + heart problems are already a problem, but throw on top of it being 78 years old is distressing. The statistic I could find on a brief search is that 2/3rds of people over 65 who've had a heart attack die within 8 years. A lot of that has to do with average life expectancy, which Bernie is already at.
I'm absolutely floored at the idea that Bernie supporters on this forum wouldn't care if Biden had had a heart attack in October and had a stent put in. His eye bled once during a debate and they freaked out. They constantly parse his speech for signs of senility. It beggars belief that Bernie supporters wouldn't care no matter who the candidate was.
While I don't doubt that's true for some that this is just another bow in the anything it takes to stop bernie quiver I have to call full blown bull shit on your second bit. I'd bet money people in this very thread would be screaming from the heavens if any of those candidates but especially Biden had had a heart attack mid presidential run and you bet your ass it'd come up in a debate.
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He specifically said in the above clip he won't be releasing full medical records, to the surprise of no one who applied any degree of common sense to what that would entail. This should serve to clarify any confusion over the issue.
That doesn't remotely translate to "calling him a liar", because I don't believe for a second that he ever meant to imply that every single document in his medical history would be released. That is a simply insane expectation to hold.
....so, and stay with me here, crazy idea coming...maybe the media are not applying common sense here?
I mean, I realise that sensationalising things in the modern 24/7 news cycle would be amazingly surprising behavior for them to engage in, but maybe there's a teensy bit of truth in it.
Man whose first reaction was "that can't possibly be what he meant" argues to apply statement literally and without use of common sense, more at 4.Like Ninespine I work in healthcare, and Bernie's "full release of my medical records" sounded exactly like that at the time, which is why I thought it was stupid - and that assessment has borne out since Sanders is Walking It Back™.
Where we will sensationalize the whole thing, naturally.